Talk:William Brocius

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Incorrect article title[edit]

I'm sorry I unfortunatly misspelled the last name of William B. Brocius as Brocious. The correct spelling is actually Brocius. Please consider moving article to William B. Brocius. 205.188.117.73 18:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

There seems to be some dispute about the spelling of his name. I've seen it both as Brocious and Brocius. The book Wyatt Earp: The Life Behind the Legend by Casey Tefertiller as well as the Tombstone movie spell it Brocious. I've only found web sites that spell it Brocius, but not any books so far. For now I think we ought to leave it Brocious and have a redirect William B. Brocius.Gorrister 18:37, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

My apologies Gorrister. The reference I used was from Carl Sifakis's Encyclopedia of American Crime. Sorry for the misunderstanding. 64.12.116.131 09:54, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Brocius spelling and the middle initial[edit]

The more appropriate and common spelling of his name was Brocius. Moreover, Curly Bill's middle initial is not certain, but a 1881 letter addressed to him that was printed in the "Tombstone Epitaph" read as follows: "Wm. H. Brocius, care G. w. Turner." I would suggest changing the spelling of his last name to "Brocius," and substituting "H" for the "B" or dropping the middle initial. Steve Gatto, author of "Curly Bill, Tombstone's Most Famous Outlaw (2003).

COMMENT: I agree. Let's get it done (doing it without the middle initial and changing it to Brocius). The name is an alias anyway. I've taken the first steps by changing it to Brocius in the essay itself.

I don't know how to change article titles or links, however. We also need links from "Curley Bill" and "Curly Bill" Sbharris 18:30, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. —Nightst a llion (?) 12:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

His mythical birthdate[edit]

This keeps getting changed to 1845. We have no idea when he was born. Stop it! Adding wrong history is worse than nothing. Better to admit ignorance when we just don't know. Sbharris 19:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Photograph?[edit]

Found this picture at the Birdcage Theater in Tombstone last time I visited, but I'm not sure if it's legit: http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j99/defashioned/curlybill.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.91.20.215 (talk) 15:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody is, but it will have to do. A lot of old prints are unlabeled, and later picked out for tourists as being of somebody later famous, like Doc Holiday. Most of the photos of Doc, probably are somebody else. S B H arris 05:56, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest I'm not sure the current photo is legitimate. The background and body is very low resolution, blown up to something absolutely ridiculous for a 19th century portrait (4000x4000), yet the head seems very high quality, like it's been edited. Is there a reason for this? I get the feeling someone edited it and put in either themselves or someone they knew as a joke. Cheef117 (talk) 06:23, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Sense of Humor[edit]

Life in Arizona

Brocius was known for a mean sense of humor when drunk. He was reported to have perpetrated such "practical jokes" as using gunfire to make a preacher "dance" during a sermon and making Mexicans at a community dance take off their clothes and dance naked. (Both incidents were reported by Wells Fargo agent Fred Dodge in his memoirs, and both incidents are alluded to in the newspapers of the time).[2]

A minute detail so important it's repeated two paragraphs later

Outlaw Cowboy

When drunk, Brocius was also known for a mean sense of humor and for such "practical jokes" as using gunfire to make a preacher "dance" during a sermon or forcing Mexicans at a community dance to take off their clothes and dance naked. Wells Fargo agent Fred Dodge reported both incidents in his memoirs, and both were alluded to in local newspapers.[3]

IS two times enough to get it across? Perhaps a third repetition, to make sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7081:4F06:2869:904:CE87:1F:FE49 (talk) 14:03, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]