Talk:1924 United States presidential election

Electoral picture peculiarity

Why is the graphic depiction of electoral votes skewed? Rarely nowadays does one see democratic votes colored red and and republican votes blue. --maru (talk) Contribs 20:51, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

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— DLJessup (talk) 21:57, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Davis home state

Can anyone figure out the full deal for what Davis's state of residence in 1924 was? The Archives list gives West Virginia, which Davis had previously represented as a congressman, but they've been wrong in other instances (they put Theodore Frelinghuysen as a New Jersey resident in 1844, for instance, even though he was apparently a New York resident at the time), and my understanding was that Davis was living in New York at the time - he was a big-time trial lawyer from the time of his return from being English ambassador in 1921. Can we elucidate this? Ths Frelinghuysen issue was cleared up by a Senate Journal reference, but that site only has Senate Journals up to 1875...any other places we could look this up? john k 05:23, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I am the same user who called attention to Frelinghuysen's home state a few months ago (see 1956 election discussion). I have been looking into cases such as this one for quite some time now. Searching the archives of the New York Times and Washington Post is useful, even if they only give you snippits (you can view the whole articles for money though, but I don't want to do that). As best as I can tell, Davis did indeed live in New York at the time. The 1924 Maryland Manual (which helped clear up other messes such as Frelinghuysen and Eisenhower) lists his home as Locust Valley on Long Island. However, for some reason the convention insisted on nominating him from West Virginia. The official convention report for example lists him as a West Virginian. Interestingly, one of the aforementioned Washington Post snippets is titled "Tammany Hall maintains Davis is West Virginian", it seems his homestate was a source of confusion even at the time. As for the congressional journals, I was fortunate enough to be able to find the senate journal microfilmed from 1875 to 1970 at a local university (I wish it extended to 1973 so we could finally definitively solve the problem of whether Nixon was from CA or NY in '72, oh well). The electoral vote count in the senate journal (Feb. 11, 1925) lists Davis as being from West Virginia. For the sake of simplicity I prefer to go by what the senate journal says, but I couldn't find fault if someone listed him as from NY. Unlike the confusion over Nixon's homestate in '68 (the microfilm proves what we knew all along, it was NY, not CA) which is due mostly to ignorance, the confusion over Davis is well founded.

BTW, after looking through the microfilm senate journals we can finally say 1. Winfield Hancock is really from PA (seen him credited to NY and MO on occasion) 2. Eisenhower really was from NY in '52 and PA in '56 3. LeMay really was from CA in '68

24.125.168.51 01:26, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Winfield S. Hancock's house was in Norristown Pa, not far from where I work. Chronicler3 — Preceding undated comment added 14:45, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Only brothers?

Charles W. Bryan, William Jennings Bryan's baby brother and business manager was nominated for Vice President, thus making them the only siblings to be nominated by a major party for national office.

Weren't the Pinckneys brothers? Timrollpickering 15:04, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

my edit (Brehm's home state)

forgot to include the why in the edit but Brehm's home state of CA was added on the page but the code messed up and it didn't show, so I fixed that75.89.32.225 04:42, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Missing Candidates

There are some candidates missing from the results:
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=1924&minper=0&f=1&off=0&elect=0

Jonknight73 (talk) 00:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

James Monroe Reference

In the "Fall Campaign" section, there is a reference to James Monroe's 1820 victory that seems out of place. The article is talking about elections with multiple candidates, and then in parenthesis is a comment about how Monroe faces no opponents in 1820. In my opinion, this comment does not contribute to the article and is confusing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.172.130.46 (talk) 23:44, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Presidential Nomination Sections Too Long

IMO, the sections on the Republican, Democratic, and Progressive Party nominations and conventions are far too long, wordy, and mired in trivia and detail for a general encyclopedia article. Additionally, they also sound suspiciously lifted almost word-for-word from another encyclopedia article or book. I would suggest that an editor prune these sections to a more readable and informative length, sticking to main points and leaving out the tedious detail. Just a thought. 2602:304:691E:5A29:24BC:8AD6:1EF9:270 (talk) 02:08, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

How about something about the actual election?

This article suffers from an almost complete lack of information about the actual presidential campaign. Indeed, here is the account of it in its entirety: "With the disastrous Democratic Convention having badly divided the Democrats, and with the economy booming, there was little doubt that Coolidge would win the election. His campaign slogan, “Keep Cool with Coolidge”, was highly popular."

Given the incredible amount of (mostly tedious) detail given to the machinations behind the Republican, Democratic and even Progessive party nomination battles, all of which, not incidentally, seems to be lifted straight from some published accounts of the elections, one would think that the actual campaign for president might warrant more than the 30 words or so which currently cover it, especially on a page which weighs in at over 100,000 bytes? Canada Jack (talk) 15:56, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm the one that cited those works, and at the time no one was willing to step forward and help me summarize them so that the content in question could be truncated for the purposes of this page. I ran into the same problem when it came to the book's discussions on the General Election, which I had partially typed up at one points years ago, but the information was even more scattered and I was unable to determine what should be cut and what shouldn't. Basically it became more work then I was able to do by myself, and I simply ceased, hoping that someone might take up the mantle; just, no one ever has. --Ariostos (talk) 20:23, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Ariostos. Hopefully someone will make an effort to cover the election campaign - I have no particular expertise here or access to sources which might cover that, so I'm off that list. Canada Jack (talk) 20:43, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Section on Campaign

Virtually every other Presidential Election wikipedia page has a section about the campaign. This one does not. It features virtually nothing about the months between the nomination and the election, such as specific stances the candidates furthered, talking points, or the like. I guess we get some of it after every nomination section, but it's disappointingly lackluster and makes it difficult to research. Bayad27 (talk) 21:37, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Writing Collaborator Sought

I worked worked on this article in the long past, and I'd like to finally polish it down whilst also adding additional information; the problem is that while I am an effective researcher, I am not able to break down those sources, or in some cases build up my notes, and so I need someone who would be willing to take what I find and "put it to paper". If anyone is interested, please let me know. Ariostos (talk) 18:20, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

If you want to share your sources and notes here I might be able to work on it? No promises though. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 13:20, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

As long as someone is willing to help me with this, I'm ecstatic. The big thing right now is my original entries for the Pre-election; those are currently straight lifts from the source. On the other hand we could remove the great majority of it and draw far more from my newspaper sources which would be more current (I'll leave that up to you). I'll continue trying to put some form of team together in the meantime, see if I can get more hands on this. --Ariostos (talk) 13:44, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

straight lifts from the source as in wp:copyvio? if so then we need to take it out immediately SomeoneDreaming (talk) 13:48, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

I probably shouldn't say "straight lifts", but it would definitely come under Close paraphrasing. I'm not sure as to the Copyright status of History of American presidential elections, 1789-1968 by Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr., but I'll initiate a rollback to what was there back in.... whatever year I made those entries. --Ariostos (talk) 14:10, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

If it was published after 1968 it's not public domain, and I doubt it's CC.

Also, per copyvio policy, Revision deletion should then be requested by placing {{copyvio-revdel}} on the article page or directly contacting an administrator on their talk page. (Correct usage of the template is explained at Template:Copyvio-revdel.) Administrators may at their discretion unilaterally revision delete copyrighted content. A note explaining the removal may also be made on the discussion page, along with the original source, if known. {{subst:Cclean|url=insert URL or description of source here (optional)}} has been created for this. If the copyright holder's permission is later obtained, the text may be restored.

SomeoneDreaming (talk) 14:13, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

I've removed the offending passages, replaced them with the original entries from 2014; surprised that it managed to stay for nine years considering. I'll reach out to an Administrator to determine what to do with the revision history. Not that it should have been necessary, but thanks for bringing this to my attention. --Ariostos (talk) 14:23, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Newspaper Source Bank

I have put together something of a repository of Newspaper Articles (here); while you need a NYTimes Account to actually makes use of the links, if you search for the Articles by their titles you can find their abstracts, though there is a limit to the number you can look up unless you actually have a subscription. At the moment I've only collected those that had some connection to Coolidge, so there are certainly ones on Davis and La Follette that I missed, and I plan on looking up those for the smaller Candidacies as well. If you have any recommendations on how to revise the collection to be more efficient for our purposes here, please let me know. --Ariostos (talk) 09:02, 28 August 2023 (UTC)