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Michele Bachman[edit]

is a nutcase, but do we really need three long paragraphs about one edition of the show? Anything that detailed should probably go in Bachman's own article. Alex finds herself awake at night _{(Talk · What keeps her up)} 03:44, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Whether or not Congresswoman Bachman is a "nutcase" is irrelevant, however, the main point made above is accurate. The long section on Bachman falls into the categories of WP:UNDUE and WP:COATRACK. Badmintonhist (talk) 05:01, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In that same vein, this article is flamingly POV. The "Notable Moments" section is a disgustingly transparent attempt to beat Chris Matthews little drum with all his great little victories. However, I didn't read anything about his "Thrill up my leg" moment or any of his other embarassing/absurd moments. Can't say I'm really suprised... But I would reccomend changing the name of this section from "Notable Moments" to "Most Glorious Victories Over the Fascist Oppressor." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.177.14.223 (talk) 22:31, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Last episode?[edit]

At the opening of the 2 March 2020 episode, the host went on the air claiming that this was his last episode. Schissel | Sound the Note! 00:03, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Schissel, Yup, just came here to share the same. See also. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:03, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/02/business/media/chris-matthews-resigns-steps-down-msnbc.html

---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:51, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Guest hosts and Regular guests sections?[edit]

Should we keep the currently unsourced Guest hosts and Regular guests sections? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 05:10, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am going to remove for now. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:52, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Name change[edit]

This was an improper name change. We do not change the name of a show because of the change of hosts to formerly. The show, for its duration have been known as Hardball with Chris Matthews. That title might have changed with Matthews' retirement but it has not changed to "formerly." The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson didn't change to the Tonight Show (formerly) with Johnny Carson. When a new host is declared, use the show title the network chooses to use for the show. Write an article about the Hardball franchise if such occurs. But wikipedia does not use its voice to force a change in title on an owned entity. That is not our prerogative. Trackinfo (talk) 03:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree with you. I have changed the title back to simply Hardball. This can provide a placeholder until a new host is selected (and the title officially changes). KidAd (talk) 06:28, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Trackinfo and KidAd, I concur with this assessment completely. Until a permanent replacement for the show has been named and the show is retitled, the existing page title should remain. At the same time, I'm also not certain that the disambiguation qualifier (news show) follows the Wikipedia Manual of Style for television programs. So, given this discussion, I've listed this at RM/TR to revert the undiscussed, now controversial, bold move. Doug M. T·C 03:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]