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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Michael Piller's original idea for Star Trek: Insurrection was based on the Joseph Conrad novel Heart of Darkness?

Trivia[edit]

The trivia section of this article appears to be a direct rip from http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120844/trivia

While being pursuited by 2 Son'a battle cruisers, Riker, against his officers warning, decide to go enter the dangerous area of Briar Patch, commenting to use them like Bre'r Rabbit thorn bush. In the Disney's stories, the Bre'r Rabbit can slips into thorn bush, while his pursuers, Bre'r Fox and Bre'r Bear can't.

More Trivia[edit]

Anthony Zerbe's head explodes in the film, just like it did in Licence to Kill. Wonder if the screenwriter knew that in advance. Poor guy... Kochamanita (talk) 02:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Another deleted seen[edit]

? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.166.168.71 (talk) 23:42, 2 January 2008 (UTC) When this movie came out, I remember Johathan Frakes saying that they had a sceen in which Captain Picard and Arij where very intemant located where Picard walks Arij to her home. It was apperenty cut by Paramount Executives. It would be fun to have a Director's cut of this movie with this sceen included. If you watch the movie again and imagine that seen where it's supposed to be, the film makes a lot more sense and would probably be as good as First Contact. Denis[reply]

Will never, ever contribute to Wiki again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.142.82.174 (talk) 04:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Inspired by history?[edit]

see Chagos_Archipelago#Politics and Depopulation of Diego Garcia Turidoth (talk) 22:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dispossession of native peoples to serve the interests of powerful governments has occurred repeatedly throughout history, I'm not clear why this particular example would seem salient to the film. Smcg8374 12:38, 25 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smcg8374 (talkcontribs)

Redlinks, possible articles to create[edit]

Redlinks in the main article page, possible articles to create, just noting them here as an assist:

  1. Santa Barbara Studios
  2. Dean Jones (designer)

Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 13:36, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Warp Core Paradox[edit]

Can one of you trekkies explain how the Enterprise can return to the Ba'Ku after it has ejected its warp core? I assume you need one of those for warp speed? This has bothered me for years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.162.4.7 (talk) 01:07, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Enterprise is fitted with a slower-speed propulsion system, Impulse drive, so it can make its way out of the briar patch and call up Star Fleet Command on sub-space comms for a new warp core, or roadside assist, or whatever else Starships do when they've jettisoned their FTL propulsion system. GrahamN-UK (talk) 19:46, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Critical Response sources are weak[edit]

This section seems at times to be fishing for scathing soundbites. Just looking at Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic, well known publications like The Los Angeles Times, The New York Times, The New Yorker, TV Guide among others gave positive reviews, and are ignored. Empire, the biggest film magazine in Britain, found in every Barnes and Noble, gave it 4 out of 5 stars. But who is quoted here? Birmingham Evening Mail (tabloid), Daily Mirror (tabloid), The Washington Times (Unification Church), Daily Herald (Arlington Heights, Illinois, a Chicago suburb). I'd think the largest and most familiar sources would get mentioned over tabloid and local papers tipping the balance to a negative response. Not that every movie page should quote Roger Ebert, but have a few names with established credibility. -- 68.105.53.244 (talk) 02:46, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I compared a version of the article from January 2015 to January 2019, the Critical response section hasn't changed. I'd be totally okay with every possible film article having quotes from Roger Ebert by the way.
The negativity is undue and there are some weird choices there for sure. I wouldn't mind it if the sources had better insights (often negative reviews have more interesting things to say), but the choice of comments is as uninspired as the choice of sources. It is strange to have so many British publications too, and they aren't even grouped together in any meaningful way by location or by commentary.
Looking at the rest of the article I noticed that it was full of sources marked <nowiki>(subscription required)</wiki> which is annoying since I know for a fact that those some of those sources are available the open web. Then I noticed the pattern, this article relies heavily on links from HighBeam Research which in turn had a deal with particular group of British newspapers. All those links are effectively dead now too, since Highbeam shut down in 2018.
If I don't get to it first I would encourage someone to add more positive reviews to the list to better balance the criticism and if possible to critique different parts of the film that haven't yet been mentioned. -- 109.79.172.66 (talk) 00:18, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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