Talk:Artie Lange

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The End?

There is no verification that Artie is dead, that section should probably be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SydneyH (talk • contribs) 00:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

y do peeople kept saying artie is dead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.248.76 (talk) 16:00, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Artie's arrests

Shouldn't there be a section on all the times Artie's been arrested for crimes?

If you can provide sources, sure. Don the Dev 04:48, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Why? Artie Lange is a minor celebrity. If not for his time at the Howard Stern show, his Wiki page would be an appropriate length. It's too long and full of information that isn't particular noteworthy as it is. Cg2112 (talk) 01:28, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Artie's departure

Somehow the person who removed my post, allowed other speculation to remain as to how he might leave the sho. People can leave a job either from dying or going to another job. And Fat comedians are well known to leave gigs through their demise. Any comments about his possible departure are speculation until he leaves arent they? The cast members were the ones speculation about his death, not me. Doug rosenberg 17:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

So remove the other speculation, this is an encyclopedia not an Artie Lange fan page. LilDice 17:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I do think it's a valid topic. My edits are just as valid and have as much sourcing as anything else in the section. If you want to remove the whole section, I'll abide by that but don't single out my edits for no reason other than you don't like them. Doug rosenberg 17:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

What sourcing? You didn't cite anything. This same problem occurs on many of the Stern pages, people feel the need to add every little thing that happens on the show. This is the Biography of Artie Lange, the fact that he missed a day of work in March 2007 and there was speculation that he was on heroin is not notable. If you want to make a list of every thing that is said about Artie on the show go do it on your own webpage, no one is stopping you. LilDice 17:58, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Problem solved removed the section, was nothing but rumor. LilDice 18:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I was the one who first put a paragraph detailing Artie's possible departure from the show. Why would you remove the paragraph? The speculation isn't exclusively based on the fact that Artie missed "one day of work in March 2007". Artie's possible departure and him being burnt out with the show is discussed almost daily on the show. It's not detailing "every little thing that happens on the show." Talks about Artie leaving is certainly not a little detail. Tofilmfan 10:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

It's still just speculation on the show if another news outlet picks it up that's a different story. Read that whole section again though, it was all 'many people think', there has been 'much speculation', 'possibly leaving the show'. Those are all weasel words that don't make for a good encyclopedia article. In the grand scheme of things it's notable on the same scale as major changes in his career. LilDice 12:15, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Encyclopedic content

Just read through the article, and in general find it very informative and encyclopedic. The bit that stands out, though is the part in the "Personal Life" section about the orgy... I guess it seems trivial and doesn't belong in an article like this. What do others think? -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 15:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Agree with above criticisms

I think this entire entry needs to be rewritten. If you read other bios of MADtv alumni, they're pretty cut-and-dried. Then you come to the Artie Lange bio, and it reads like a supermarket tabloid. Some of the information about Lange's drug use is relevant to his career (e.g., snorting cocaine in full pig make-up, passing out and defecating in bed). Most other info about his drug use and sex life is irrelevant to an encyclopedia article.

I edited other bios of the first-season cast of MADtv and came to the Lange bio last. I read it, heaved a big sigh, and realized what a daunting project Wikipedia can be. I just wish people would read the wiki manual of style, avoid linking every other goddam word fer chrissakes, and grasp the notion that this is an encyclopedia, not a gossip rag or fan magazine or promotional website.

When you're writing for Wikipedia, keep in mind the catchphrase from Dragnet: "Just the facts, ma'am." Kinkyturnip (talk) 03:37, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Kevin Borque?

I'm pretty sure, but not sure enough to edit, that the reference to Kevin Borque is inaccurate. There is a mention of a Kevin Borque in the Fred Norris Wiki as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.225.141.105 (talk) 15:12, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 14:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Artie's weight

Artie's gained a lot of weight since the lead photo was taken. Does anyone have a recent photo that won't violate copyright? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.101.108 (talk) 08:05, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Can we add a "weightography," similar to his filmography, a timetable of all the times that Artie has been weighed on the air so we can graph it?Simon (talk) 01:55, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Warning: Lobbyists Berman and Company at work

This article has been edited anonymously by Berman and Company, who are lobbyists for amongst others the American Beverage Institute, the Center for Consumer Freedom, the Center for Union Facts and the Employment Policies Institute.

IP address of 66.208.14.242 traces to Berman and Company, see the Whois report. I Spy With My Big Eye (talk) 10:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

There's a new section called "The End" which is clearly vandalism, but which I can't remove because the article is locked. Y'all might wanna look into that. 70.179.140.34 (talk) 00:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

This "article" is a train wreck

I came across this article doing some research for a friend. 99% of the content reads like a gossip rag and many of the citations are dubious at best with several simply looping back to the article itself? The overall format of this piece makes it look like something a high school student wrote. The Filmography section needs the "Notes" section deleted or replaced with links to factual articles about the films or anything else not so blatantly vague and subjective. Please see the spelling correction I just made. I find it very difficult to believe that someone mistakenly used the word "writhe" instead of "rid" and the anonymous IP behind it are further indication all that info should probably just be deleted but I don't know the subject of the article well enough to make that determination. Given the extremely controversial nature of the subject and his audience, I'd like to suggest a total lock on the article followed by a thoughtful and investigative rewrite. Otherwise I think Wikipedia is again begging for a lawsuit from a living person having false and defamatory information posted about them. Why are there no admins paying any attention to this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by LactoseIntolerant (talk • contribs) 15:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

It needs a tag for editors to find it. Doing that now. Henrymrx (t·c) 06:21, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Article should be locked, death is unsourced

The article should be locked until there is real confirmation that he is dead, to keep people from adding it in constantly. I think that if his death happened, there would be a real reference besides the homestarrunner.com some tool added. If he died, it would be on many reputable websites so a real reference would be very easy to get. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.192.64.220 (talk) 09:53, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

We've already semi-protected the article--and, though it's not a perfect solution, it does tend to limit the amount of mischief that can be created (by forbidding new users from editing the article). I'll continue to keep an eye on it, as I have nothing better to do.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 20:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Inclusion of details of Artie Lange's attempted suicide, before official confirmation, is inappropriate

I don't feel remotely comfortable about this, the addition of details about Lange's alleged suicide attempt. I fear that editors would get their panties in a bunch if I attempted to remove sourced information, so I would really like to get a second opinion.... here are my issues with the source: the New York Post is a well-known publication, but it's also a salacious tabloid with a track record of printing vast amounts of harmful and mean-spirited gossip. That's not to say that we should never use the Post as a source, but in this case it seems hopelessly shady... if you read the article, it uses only vague, anonymous sources and doesn't allude to any confirmation from hospital or law enforcement authorities, or from Artie's family or representatives. Most importantly, the anonymously sourced article is the only news source claiming Artie has stabbed himself. All other articles covering the suicide attempt refer to the New York Post as their only reference. Until some independent confirmation of Artie's status can be given, it does not seem appropriate to reprint such sensitive and personal details in a BLP.

NOTE: this post has also been copied to the BLP Noticeboard.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 05:14, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

That's fine. I was the one who initially added the information. On further reflection, I'd prefer to wait for more reliable sources. Thanks for raising the issue, Fat Man. --Andy Walsh (talk) 05:43, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

...and I was reverted with the addition of an additional newspaper source. --Andy Walsh (talk) 06:07, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

This has been published by the The Star-Ledger[1], and confirmed by Hoboken police in the Hudson Reporter[2] and The Jersey Journal[3]. dissolve^talk 06:10, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Now it appears that lots of other newspapers have picked up on the story and are using "law enforcement sources," so I suppose that resolves my concern. It's also a huge relief that the brand of cutlery (Wolfgang Puck) has been identified..... weird. Anyway, poor Artie.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 11:46, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Howard Stern and Robin Quivers have confirmed it to be the truth, too, on th radio show. Undervenued (talk) 13:37, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

The stabbed-in-the-gut act was his funniest skit ever! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.168.129.220 (talk) 17:17, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Not dead

I think someone is vandalizing. Artie is shown as dead circa today- not so is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.67.79.198 (talk) 18:28, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Not yet. But if he keeps up like that, he will end up dead in less than a year or two. Watching/listening to him since some time now, and it's sad he's fallen down like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.59.122.130 (talk) 03:35, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Former staff member?

The Howard Stern template lists him under "Former staff", but there is nothing in this article about him not returning to the show. This should be made explicit (e.g., "As of April 2011") for those who don't listen to the show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.201.0 (talk) 05:53, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Info on leaving Stern show?? (touched on above)

The article makes it very confusing when/how he left the show. There seems to be a gap in the career timeline. It has something about his return to radio, and it has info about his suicide, but nothing about when/how he left the Howard Stern show finally. Was it due to suicide attempt, or was he away before suicide attempt? Dancindazed (talk) 00:56, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Template:About; R.D. Laing

Why does this article contain an Template:About that mentions R.D. Laing? It seems the template was added on 1 August 2009. I get that R.D. Laing and Artie Lange kind of sound alike, but who would search for Artie Lange after hearing about R.D. Laing? Artie is a pretty rare name, I think. Should we also add the template to Laing's article, to help people looking for Lange? Hm. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 01:55, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Native-American heritage?

The notion that Artie Lange is part Native-American is based on a dubious DNA test that several cast members of Howard Stern's show took in 2003. The results of these sort of 'pop DNA' tests are considered dubious even in 2014; in 2003 they were about as reliable as reading tea leaves. The notion that Artie's German surnamed father could have been half Indian and nobody suspected he was anything other than German in his lifetime strain credulity to the breaking point. The same test determined his full sister to be only 10% Native-American, which further casts doubt on the credibility of the results.CannotFindAName (talk) 21:40, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

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heroin

"after he attempted suicide during a heroin addiction." This is bad grammar, poor usage.. Since I don't know about poor Artie, someone else needs to clarify. I might go with <after he attempted suicide due to heroin addiction.> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Memphisdan (talk • contribs) 16:28, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

nose

Are we just going to ignore that he has a re-constructed (?) nose? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:201:8681:5340:38F2:C53A:9635:4CC2 (talk) 08:13, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

I head he donated his nose to the Fund for the Freedom of Palestine. 109.175.105.27 (talk) 18:02, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Doesn't make sense.

 It does not make sense to say he did something full time ('comedy') while developing the act. In order to get gigs FULL time (or even part time), you have to already have 'developed' an act. 98.123.126.45 (talk) 23:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC)