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Honors and Legacy citation[edit]

Questioning logic why Edited Version was removed --

"It is popularly believed in Brazil that Santos-Dumont preceded the Wright brothers in demonstrating a practical airplane, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.[43] They point to public recognition over chronology; He switched from lighter than air to heavier craft after the Wrights' invention."[1]

-- for making the case the cited footnote actually refutes his legacy. Direct quotes from that very source:

"It's difficult for citizens of the United States to understand why Brazilians are so insistent that he was the first to fly when the very sources they cite seem to prove just the opposite. Brazilians point proudly to the records of the Federation Aeronautique Internationale that show Santos Dumont made his record 722-foot flight in 1906, without disputing the eyewitness accounts that corroborate the Wright brothers report of 852 feet in 1903."

"In 1904 -- a year after the Wright brothers had made their first powered flight-- Santos Dumont turned his attention to heavier-than-air flying. He began with a glider, then built an unsuccessful helicopter in 1905. In 1906, he built a strange-looking flying machine -- a biplane of what the French had begun to call the type du Wright, loosely based on the Wright biplane plans that had been published in several European magazines."

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.231.18.52 (talk) 18:17, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're talking about this edit [1]. The problem is that the source [2] doesn't say anything about "overwhelming evidence", rather it says the very sources [Brazilians] cite seem to prove just the opposite, which is much weaker. Furthermore, a website devoted to the Wright Brothers, though its research does seem high-quality, isn't the best source for this kind of thing. We'll find better sources in time. EEng 19:32, 8 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It is just propaganda. They are disrespectful. They just mock Brazilians. They certainly have their own agenda.
By the way, the Wright brothers' page is also basically full of propaganda and excuses:
  • The Wright brothers did not have the luxury of being able to give away their invention [...]
  • [...] since they were neither wealthy nor government-funded (unlike other experimenters such as Ader, Maxim, Langley, and Santos-Dumont).
There is not a single purpose on this citation. It is just someone's opinion on what s/he thinks about Brazilians, based on what some friend told him or her. 179.251.99.36 (talk) 23:03, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nature – November 8, 1906, Page 35
The First “Manned” Flying Machine.
OCTOBER 23 of the present year will be remembered as a red-letter day in the history of flying machines, for it was on that day that the first flying machine, constructed on the “heavier than air” principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards.
In this his first successful flight with this machine. M. Santos Dumont is to be sincerely congratulated, for he has accomplished a performance which many workers in different parts of the world have been striving after for many years past and failed.
https://www.nature.com/articles/075035a0#:~:text=OCTOBER%2023%20of%20the%20present,itself%20by%20means%20of%20its 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:11, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New-York Tribune. [volume], November 20, 1906, Page 6, Image 6
SANTOS-DUMONT ANTICIPATED.
A fresh reason for determining the amount of glory due to Santos-Dumont for his recent flights with an aeroplane is afforded by an article in the latest number of "Nature" to reach this country. In that periodical it is asserted that on October 23 "the first flying machine, constructed on the 'heavier than air' principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards." While that statement is probably correct, the merit of the performance can be rightly estimated only by a comparison with what Wilbur and Orville Wright, of Dayton, Ohio, have been able to accomplish.
Santos-Dumont has been at work on the aeroplane only about a year. Most of his aeronautic experiments were conducted with an entirely different class of airship, the self-propelled balloon. On the other hand, the Wright brothers have been identified with the aeroplane for at least four or five years and perhaps longer. In a letter to the Aero Club of America, last winter they told the results attained by them up to the close of 1905. So startling were their claims that in France and Germany their story was received with much skepticism. With a creditable desire to vindicate the honor of the country, The Scientific American" addressed a circular letter of inquiry to seventeen persons who, according to the Wrights, had witnessed their aerial voyages. Twelve responses were received, one of them coming from Mr. Octave Chanute, the author of a well known work on aeronautic experiments and a man whose veracity no well informed foreigner or American would venture to question. The testimony of each of these witnesses was in substantial agreement with that of the others. Though now and then doubt would be expressed as to the exact date of a flight, the distance covered or some other detail, the general tenor of the letters seemed to put the truthfulness of the Wrights' statement quite beyond dispute.
It is worthy of note, in the interests of justice, that the Brazilian has made better provision for launching an aeroplane than the Wrights did last year. His machine, when on the ground, is supported by wheels. When the Wrights were ready to start, theirs was arranged crosswise on a pair of rails. To overcome the friction between these and the lower part of the frame, it was necessary to rely on external aid. Their aeroplane would not lift itself clear of the rails until it had been pushed forward twenty-five or thirty feet by hand, whereas the one which has just created a sensation in Europe will advance without assistance as soon as the propellers begin to revolve and will rise shortly afterward unhelped. Strictly speaking, then, "Nature" is quite right when it says that Santos-Dumont's machine is the first to raise Itself by means of its own power.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1906-11-20/ed-1/seq-6/#date1=1770&index=18&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:14, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Evening Star. [volume], December 09, 1906, Sunday star, Page 5, Image 53
The Sunday Star, Washington, D. C., December 09, 1906—Part 4.
(Copyright, 1906, by John Elfreth Watkins.)
SANTOS-DUMONT is the first man to have performed aerial flight with a self-propelled machine heavier than the air which it displaced. He has solved a problem which has caused inventive geniuses to burn the midnight oil and toss restlessly upon their couches since centuries before the dawn of the Christian era. During three millenniums or more ambitious men have broken their hearts and their heads seeking the great goal which this fearless Brazilian has won within the past few weeks.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1906-12-09/ed-1/seq-53/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=aerial+air+displaced+DUMONT+first+flight+have+heavier+machine+man+performed+propelled+SANTOS+SANTOS-DUMONT+self+self-propelled+than+which&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=SANTOS-DUMONT+is+the+first+man+to+have+performed+aerial+flight+with+a+self-propelled+machine+heavier+than+the+air+which+it+displaced&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:16, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Danville Intelligencer. [volume], January 04, 1907, Image 1
It remained for the world of 1906 to see the first mechanical navigation of the air from a standing start in a screw-propelled aeroplane. This was achieved by M. Santos-Dumont, at Paris, September 13. in his airship, the Bird of Prey.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86053369/1907-01-04/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=+aeroplanes+of+Santos+Dumont&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=7 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:48, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Democratic Advocate. [volume], January 11, 1907, Image 1
Address By President Armstrong.
William H. Armstrong, former president of the Maryland State Turnpike Association, delivered the following address at the meeting held in Hagerstown on December 29:
“In the near future, there may float in the ocean of air above us, simulachres of those winged monsters of the paleozoic age, that lived by the shores of nameless lakes and left their ‘footprints in the sands of time.' These griffins of the sky will be the aeroplanes of Santos Dumont, and may be the evolution ary successors of the horse, the automobile and the trolley. They will carry their freight, in cars less costly, against a material less resistant than earth or water and be operated at an expense less than the vehicles now used by man.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85038292/1907-01-11/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplanes+Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=14&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=10 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:49, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Flying Machines: practice and design – December, 1909, Page 54
Santos-Dumont, in November, 1906, with a petrol driven aeroplane machine, accomplished a short flight successfully, and so is probably the first man carried on a mechanically propelled flying machine. He accomplished a flight of 200 ft. at about 8 ft. from the ground, and secured the Archdeacon prize cup.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark%3A%2F13960%2Ft7sn02698&seq=70
Evening Star. [volume], February 05, 1911, Page 16, Image 40
HOW AVIATION STANDS TO-DAY
BY FRED T. JANE. Editor of "All the World's Airships"
Early Experiments
THE aëroplane is the antithesis of the dirigible. Unlike the latter, it makes no attempt to reproduce in air what a fish does in water. It seeks to do in the air what a bird does. At present it has advanced a step, in that its present practical exposition is no longer an imitation bird. It has got to adapting certain bird characteristics instead.
Twenty years ago any man who even thought that heavier than air flying might become possible was regarded as a lunatic. Ten years ago anyone who tried to make such a thing was regarded with gravest suspicion. Early experiments were regarded as pure folly.
Then came the boxkite, able to lift men. It was obvious that if an engine could be made to do the essential work of a boxkite string, a kite would need no string, and be a flying machine. Santos-Dumont, the first man to fly on a heavier than air machine, did so on a series of boxkites which subsequently developed into the well known Voisin type of aëroplane. Henry Farman in one of the Voisin machines proved that controlled flight in a heavier than air machine was possible.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1911-02-05/ed-1/seq-40/#date1=1770&index=14&rows=20&words=Dumont+first+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+first&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume], November 07, 1909, Sunday Edition, THIRD SECTION, Page 23, Image 23
Santos Dumont Was the First Real Air Passenger
Every great advance toward the conquest of the air, whether it be made by the Wright brothers, Curtiss, Bleriot, Latham or any of the host of others who are now directing their attention toward solving the problem, reflects some credit on Santos-Dumont.
He brought about the present extraordinary interest in aeronautics. His experiments, beginning a decade ago with a dirigible balloon and continuing to his present aeroplane of today, were the spur that started hundreds of experimenters.
The little Brazilian, resident of Paris for so long, and fitting so thoroughly into the life of the metropolis, has been believed by many to be a Frenchman, but he is a South American by birth, and his father is immensely wealthy.
It is a curious contradiction that from the coffee fields of Brazil rather than from the capitals of Europe should come the man who is really the inspiration of the last few years' wonderful advance in conquering the air.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85047084/1909-11-07/ed-1/seq-23/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=Brazil+coffee+contradiction+curious+fields+from&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=It+is+a+curious+contradiction+that+from+the+coffee+fields+of+Brazil+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
The Evening Statesman. [volume], September 29, 1909, Page Four, Image 4
SANTOS-DUMONT TO THE FRONT.
M. Santos-Dumont has emerged from his seclusion with an aeroplane of his own invention both smaller and swifter than those of his rivals. We are told also that its wings spread only a sixth as many square feet as does the machine of his best known rivals, the Wrights; with its one passenger on board it weighs but 240 pounds, and in its first public flights it made a speed of fifty-five miles an hour. Truly this is something worth waiting for, and we now understand what Santos-Dumont was doing in the time when he was silent. It is almost inconceivable that an art that is only in its infancy should bring such remarkable results so soon. It seems but yesterday that the first announcement was made to the world that a heavier-than-air machine actually flew. Yet Santos-Dumont now comes forward with a small and compact little craft weighing, with him on board only 260 pounds and accomplishing the astonishing speed of 55 miles an hour.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085421/1909-09-29/ed-1/seq-4/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=announcement+first+heavier+made+world&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=the+first+announcement+was+made+to+the+world+that+a+heavier&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
The Intermountain Catholic., October 23, 1909, Page 3, Image 3
Santos Dumont First Flyer.
(From the New York Press.)
Pan-America rejoices that our gallant premier aviator, Santos Dumont, again strides the blast to the tune of 55 miles the hour. He is a rara avis; indeed, the first who flew in public and showed an astounded world the miracle of a man's flight. He is a whole world prodigy, and his name should be fastened to a star or bestowed upon the first convenient coming comet. Brazil may cut the name of Dumont in letters 50 feet high across the face of the peak of the Sugar Loaf mountain at the entrance to the harbor of Rio de Janeiro as a monument of Miltonic majesty to the Brazilian eagle. His father, old man Dumont, a Frenchman, was the pioneer coffee man in the big Santos district of Brazil. He sold out his plantation a number of years ago to a syndicate. Two brothers are quiet bankers in the city of San maulo, Brazil. Santos was believed for a long time to be a mere nutty spendthrift.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn93062856/1909-10-23/ed-1/seq-3/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=astounded+first+flew+public+showed+who&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=the+first+who+flew+in+public+and+showed+an+astounded+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
Newark Evening Star and Newark advertiser. [volume], February 08, 1915, HOME EDITION, Page 8, Image 8
AMERICA GETS A FAMOUS AIRMAN.
It is good news for the interests of aviation in this country that Santos-Dumont, the famous Brazilian airman, is to make the United States his permanent home. This, for America, is one of the fortunate results of the war, as Santos-Dumont in recent years has been devoting himself to the development of aviation in France.
Santos-Dumont years ago startled the world as a pioneer navigator of the dirigible balloon, and has the distinction of the first public flight in an aeroplane. He will be an immense help to popularizing aviation in the United States. If the nation has a few thousand citizen aviators it will be an immensely valuable aeronautic reserve.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn91064011/1915-02-08/ed-1/seq-8/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=country+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=6&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos-Dumont+This+Country&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=5
Evening Star. [volume], January 09, 1916, Page 4, Image 22
The Sunday Star, Washington, D. C., January 9, 1916-Part 2.
THE WAR'S GEOGRAPHICAL LESSONS
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On the oriental front it was the 3.000 automobiles of Gen. Hindenburg which changed the issue of the furious battle of Bzoura, also called the battle of Lodz. Thus the automobile is another lesson of the war of which the Germans believed that they alone possessed the secret under the head of "mobel machen." Von Hindenburg's Automobiles.
The actual war has become a subject of incessant disquietude and tension on the part of neutral states which, notwithstanding their good intentions in the matter of their neutrality, are attacked and their rights as neutrals violated. This disquietude has proved a latent factor certainly in the meeting at Washington these days of the Pan-America Scientific Congress. The congress has discussed the ways and means to a closer union for the development of their commerce and their mutual protection, bearing in mind the semiofficial threat of a distinguished military visitor two years before the war.
There was nothing more natural than that aviation from a scientific and economical point of view should be a special subject of discussion by this congress of pan-Americans, all the more that there was present as a member of the congress the man who is considered as the pioneer and father of modern aviation, M. Alberto Santos-Dumont.
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https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1916-01-09/ed-1/seq-22/#date1=1770&index=2&rows=20&words=aviation+father+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=%22father+of+aviation%22+santos&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
El Imparcial., San Juan, Puerto Rico, May 09, 1919, Page 3.
ENGLISH SECTION
OPINIONS OF MY OWN
BY Claudio Capó.
ON AIR NAVIGATION
Air navigation, which is in its infancy, has progressed wonderfully since it first became a practical proposition. Of course, man must have thought of the convenience of being able to fly, since the very moment he perceived other animals going through space. But is is only within the present generation that real progress has been made in the science of aerial navigation, and at the rate it goes we should not be at all surprised if one of these days a trip to the Moon were seriously considered.
If we remember right, Santos Dumont was the first man to flew in a heavier-than-air machine. The Wright Brothers are spoken of in the United States as the first inventors to make of the art a practical proposition. Of the lighter-than-air devices, the most famous are those constructed by Count Zeppelin.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88073003/1919-05-09/ed-1/seq-3/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=Dumont+first+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=13&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+first&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2
July 20, 1969 = Apollo 11 = Moon
One Giant Leap For Mankind
Santos Dumont (20 July, 1873 – 23 July, 1932)
July 20, 1969
July 20, 1873
International Astronomical Union – Santos-Dumont (crater)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santos-Dumont_(crater)
Santos-Dumont propeller
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Santos-Dumont_(propeller) 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 19:40, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Morris Tribune. [volume], September 29, 1906, Image 7
KEEPING TAB ON THE WORLD
Concluded from page 2.
Santos Dumont's Mechanical Flight.
Although M. Santos-Dumont in his new aeroplane, the Bird of Prey, was able to traverse the air at Paris only a distance of thirty-seven feet before his ship came to the ground with a crash, nevertheless the test is regarded as one of great importance because it was the first time an airship had ever left the earth unaided.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn91059394/1906-09-29/ed-1/seq-7/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=15&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:09, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Error in "Later Years" section[edit]

In this section it is first stated that after the outbreak of war in 1914 .... he burned his papers and moved back to Brazil. It also states that in 1918 he build a new house in Brazil. However later on this section says "In 1928 Santos-Dumont left France to go back to his country of birth." There seems to be a conflict between these two paragraphs within the same section. I have no idea which is right, so I won't change anything. Tøpholm (talk) 00:43, 3 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]


The Wrights' catapult[edit]

As it is, one very strong Brazilian point of contention is that the Wrights depended on a catapult to make their Flyer take off. Samuel Langley used a catapult, but I have not found non-Brazilian evidence that the Wrights did. Apparently -- I have found printed reference, but have yet to look it up again --, in the early 1900s one American journalist mixed them up and reported of the Wrights using the catapult. If such is the case, it would seem that some of the wind could be driven off the catapult argument. SrAtoz (talk) 16:33, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The New York Times, December 17, 1951. Page 30
WRIGHT TRIBUTE TODAY
Airmen to Mark Anniversary of Kitty Hawk Flight
KITTY HAWK. N.C, Dec.16 (U P) – Modern airmen will pay tribute here tomorrow to the forty-eighth anniversary of the Wright Brothers' pioneering airplane flight, but an old-timer who watched the first take-offs said the celebrators have picked the wrong day.
Wilbur and Orville Wright are credited with making their first powered flight in a heavier-than-air machine on Dec. 17, 1903. But Alpheus W. Drinkwater, 76 years old, who sent the telegraph message ushering in the air age, said the brothers only "glided" off Kill Devil Hill that day.
Their first real flight came on May 6, 1908, he said. It was on that day, that Wilbur Wright declared the airplane was a mighty fine contraption, but predicted it would never carry enough gasoline to span an ocean.
Regardless of his quibble with aeronautics historians; Mr. Drinkwater will be on hand for the celebration tomorrow. The first flight will be marked by flights of jet planes, helicopters and huge cargo planes.
https://www.nytimes.com/1951/12/17/archives/wright-tribute-today-airmen-to-mark-anniversary-of-kitty-hawk.html 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:A94D:93D8:5C2D:8BF3 (talk) 17:44, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


The Wright Catapults are heavilly documented everywhere, not only in Brazil. Just check US pages about the Wright, and you will see lots of info. However, the Wrights did not use the catapult at first. On Kitty Hawk, they used rails to overcome the sand. Some say that the dunes were used to lay the rail on an inclined fashion, allowing the plane to gain speed through the help of gravity. However, at least once Wilbur mentioned in a telegram that they were able to take off with the rail "laid flat". This day, however, he mentions that there was a significant breeze (head wind).

In 1904, in the Huffman Praire, the Wright Bros. documented several failed attempts to take off using the rail. They also claim about 2 successfull take-offs with significant head wind. By September, they built and started to use the catapult to assist on take off, which they have used from then onwards.

In 1908, the Wright Bros. presented themselves in Europe and tried to set some World Records mantained by the FIA. When they made a 56 minute flight (to the astonished Europeans), the record was denied because of the use of the catapult. It was then that Wilbur removed the track and took off without the catapult and wheels, having his record homologated.

Anyway, this is what is behind some of the comments saying that the Wright Bros could not take-off unassisted, an affirmation I think is correct (in 1903-1905). Because of its low power, it needed assistance of either: The gravity (inclined rails), catapult or WIND.

Nelbr 88.0.116.1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:38, 14 February 2010 (UTC).[reply]

By the way, here is a US government link that describes part of what is said above:

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Wright_Bros/1904/WR7.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.0.116.1 (talk) 11:45, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

and three years after the Wright Brothers flight of their powered fix wing...he flew. This artical is a fraud and a farce. If you read his history or see videos about him. He stole his engineering and hired people to do his math. He was a guy that worked thighs out in a machine shop using other people's R&D. Today we would just call him a fraud and move on. He Reinvented that was already invented or known. That is why the FAC threw him out. (67.1.15.106 (talk) 08:28, 20 April 2013 (UTC)).[reply]
The Wright's first successful flight DID NOT USE catapults!!! It just used a railway-like wooden runway to launch the plane but it was entirely moved by its engines! There are videos of it so don't try to fool us! (unsigned by ‎46.189.219.225 )
Correct: engine only, no catapult on 12/17/1903, but still photos only, no film or video on that date. DonFB (talk) 05:27, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The New York Times, December 17, 1951. Page 30
WRIGHT TRIBUTE TODAY
Airmen to Mark Anniversary of Kitty Hawk Flight
KITTY HAWK. N.C, Dec.16 (U P) – Modern airmen will pay tribute here tomorrow to the forty-eighth anniversary of the Wright Brothers' pioneering airplane flight, but an old-timer who watched the first take-offs said the celebrators have picked the wrong day.
Wilbur and Orville Wright are credited with making their first powered flight in a heavier-than-air machine on Dec. 17, 1903. But Alpheus W. Drinkwater, 76 years old, who sent the telegraph message ushering in the air age, said the brothers only "glided" off Kill Devil Hill that day.
Their first real flight came on May 6, 1908, he said. It was on that day, that Wilbur Wright declared the airplane was a mighty fine contraption, but predicted it would never carry enough gasoline to span an ocean.
Regardless of his quibble with aeronautics historians; Mr. Drinkwater will be on hand for the celebration tomorrow. The first flight will be marked by flights of jet planes, helicopters and huge cargo planes.
https://www.nytimes.com/1951/12/17/archives/wright-tribute-today-airmen-to-mark-anniversary-of-kitty-hawk.html 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:A94D:93D8:5C2D:8BF3 (talk) 17:48, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Questions on 1945 Newsreel clip[edit]

Monoplane seen at 23 seconds in File:First flights in aviation history.ogg; link to full size
Biplanes seen at 29 seconds
Landed biplane seen at 33 seconds

Can anyone provide more details to the description of the video Commons:File:First flights in aviation history.ogg shown at the right? I have added this line for the part relevant to Santos-Dumont:

21 to 32 seconds: man with hat; monoplane landing; two biplanes in flight; "Alberto Santos-Dumont on 13 September 1909, the Brazilian pioneer airman, made the first aeroplane flight in all Europe"

Questions:

The single engined monoplane at 23 seconds is presumably the same as that seen in flight from 25 to 28 seconds. Which model might it be?
What are the flying biplanes seen at 29 to 30 seconds?
What is the landed biplane at 33 seconds?
Where did the 13 September 1909 flight take place? September 1909 and 1909 in aviation#September have nothing.

Thanks. -84user (talk) 17:48, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Answers: Never too late, eh? So here goes:
Single engine monoplane at 23 sec is the Santos-Dumont Demoiselle, which is shown in flight at 25-28 sec.
Flying biplanes at 29-30 sec appear to be (upper) a Voisin 1907 biplane, or possibly a later model, and (lower) possibly a Wright Model A (with canard).
Landed biplane at 33 sec is decidedly a Wright Flyer, almost certainly a Model A (with forward elevator: the canard). The man at center appears to be Wilbur; man at right appears to be Orville. Location would be Pau, France, or Italy, between January and spring, 1909. Uncertain as to ID of passenger.
Narrator gives incorrect date for first European flight; it was October 23, 1906 by Santos Dumont in Paris (see details in the article of this Talk page). DonFB (talk) 06:28, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The Morris Tribune. [volume], September 29, 1906, Image 7
KEEPING TAB ON THE WORLD
Concluded from page 2.
Santos Dumont's Mechanical Flight.
Although M. Santos-Dumont in his new aeroplane, the Bird of Prey, was able to traverse the air at Paris only a distance of thirty-seven feet before his ship came to the ground with a crash, nevertheless the test is regarded as one of great importance because it was the first time an airship had ever left the earth unaided.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn91059394/1906-09-29/ed-1/seq-7/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=15&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:55, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nature – November 8, 1906, Page 35
The First “Manned” Flying Machine.
OCTOBER 23 of the present year will be remembered as a red-letter day in the history of flying machines, for it was on that day that the first flying machine, constructed on the “heavier than air” principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards.
In this his first successful flight with this machine. M. Santos Dumont is to be sincerely congratulated, for he has accomplished a performance which many workers in different parts of the world have been striving after for many years past and failed.
https://www.nature.com/articles/075035a0#:~:text=OCTOBER%2023%20of%20the%20present,itself%20by%20means%20of%20its 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:56, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New-York Tribune. [volume], November 20, 1906, Page 6, Image 6
SANTOS-DUMONT ANTICIPATED.
A fresh reason for determining the amount of glory due to Santos-Dumont for his recent flights with an aeroplane is afforded by an article in the latest number of "Nature" to reach this country. In that periodical it is asserted that on October 23 "the first flying machine, constructed on the 'heavier than air' principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards." While that statement is probably correct, the merit of the performance can be rightly estimated only by a comparison with what Wilbur and Orville Wright, of Dayton, Ohio, have been able to accomplish.
Santos-Dumont has been at work on the aeroplane only about a year. Most of his aeronautic experiments were conducted with an entirely different class of airship, the self-propelled balloon. On the other hand, the Wright brothers have been identified with the aeroplane for at least four or five years and perhaps longer. In a letter to the Aero Club of America, last winter they told the results attained by them up to the close of 1905. So startling were their claims that in France and Germany their story was received with much skepticism. With a creditable desire to vindicate the honor of the country, The Scientific American" addressed a circular letter of inquiry to seventeen persons who, according to the Wrights, had witnessed their aerial voyages. Twelve responses were received, one of them coming from Mr. Octave Chanute, the author of a well known work on aeronautic experiments and a man whose veracity no well informed foreigner or American would venture to question. The testimony of each of these witnesses was in substantial agreement with that of the others. Though now and then doubt would be expressed as to the exact date of a flight, the distance covered or some other detail, the general tenor of the letters seemed to put the truthfulness of the Wrights' statement quite beyond dispute.
It is worthy of note, in the interests of justice, that the Brazilian has made better provision for launching an aeroplane than the Wrights did last year. His machine, when on the ground, is supported by wheels. When the Wrights were ready to start, theirs was arranged crosswise on a pair of rails. To overcome the friction between these and the lower part of the frame, it was necessary to rely on external aid. Their aeroplane would not lift itself clear of the rails until it had been pushed forward twenty-five or thirty feet by hand, whereas the one which has just created a sensation in Europe will advance without assistance as soon as the propellers begin to revolve and will rise shortly afterward unhelped. Strictly speaking, then, "Nature" is quite right when it says that Santos-Dumont's machine is the first to raise Itself by means of its own power.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1906-11-20/ed-1/seq-6/#date1=1770&index=18&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:56, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Evening Star. [volume], December 09, 1906, Sunday star, Page 5, Image 53
The Sunday Star, Washington, D. C., December 09, 1906—Part 4.
(Copyright, 1906, by John Elfreth Watkins.)
SANTOS-DUMONT is the first man to have performed aerial flight with a self-propelled machine heavier than the air which it displaced. He has solved a problem which has caused inventive geniuses to burn the midnight oil and toss restlessly upon their couches since centuries before the dawn of the Christian era. During three millenniums or more ambitious men have broken their hearts and their heads seeking the great goal which this fearless Brazilian has won within the past few weeks.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1906-12-09/ed-1/seq-53/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=aerial+air+displaced+DUMONT+first+flight+have+heavier+machine+man+performed+propelled+SANTOS+SANTOS-DUMONT+self+self-propelled+than+which&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=SANTOS-DUMONT+is+the+first+man+to+have+performed+aerial+flight+with+a+self-propelled+machine+heavier+than+the+air+which+it+displaced&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:57, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Danville Intelligencer. [volume], January 04, 1907, Image 1
It remained for the world of 1906 to see the first mechanical navigation of the air from a standing start in a screw-propelled aeroplane. This was achieved by M. Santos-Dumont, at Paris, September 13. in his airship, the Bird of Prey.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86053369/1907-01-04/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=+aeroplanes+of+Santos+Dumont&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=7 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:58, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Flying Machines: practice and design – December, 1909, Page 54
Santos-Dumont, in November, 1906, with a petrol driven aeroplane machine, accomplished a short flight successfully, and so is probably the first man carried on a mechanically propelled flying machine. He accomplished a flight of 200 ft. at about 8 ft. from the ground, and secured the Archdeacon prize cup.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark%3A%2F13960%2Ft7sn02698&seq=70 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:58, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Democratic Advocate. [volume], January 11, 1907, Image 1
Address By President Armstrong.
William H. Armstrong, former president of the Maryland State Turnpike Association, delivered the following address at the meeting held in Hagerstown on December 29:
“In the near future, there may float in the ocean of air above us, simulachres of those winged monsters of the paleozoic age, that lived by the shores of nameless lakes and left their ‘footprints in the sands of time.' These griffins of the sky will be the aeroplanes of Santos Dumont, and may be the evolution ary successors of the horse, the automobile and the trolley. They will carry their freight, in cars less costly, against a material less resistant than earth or water and be operated at an expense less than the vehicles now used by man.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85038292/1907-01-11/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplanes+Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=14&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=10 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:59, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Curiosities[edit]

I've removed the following addition to the article:

CURIOSITIES
Many consider Orville and Wilbur Wright's parents aviation. What few know is that according to the words of the brothers, only five people attended the your flight (no manifested today) and there is evidence of your flight, according to the brothers. A strange curiosity is that Wilbur called the President of the French aero club, asking for details of the plane 14-bis of Santos-Dumont, in 1908, two years after the flight of the 14-Bis. If the brothers had made a flight because they wanted details of the plane Dumont?
Source: Great-nephew of Santos-Dumont: Antônio Dumont; Brazilian Museum of Inventors; The book "Seis tombos e um pulinho. As aventuras de Santos-Dumont até inventar o 14-bis", VILLARES, Marcos

I'm not entirely sure what the point of this section was, but at the very least the English needs cleaning up. --grummerx (talk) 21:28, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Irrelevant Paragraph[edit]

The following paragraph keeps being added. It has nothing to do with Santos Dumont, it's all about the Wright brothers, and doesn't belong here.

With less fanfare, there was an assisted take off, 10 months earlier, between 26 September and 5 October 1905, when American aviators Orville and Wilbur Wright had completed a series of six dramatic "long flights" ranging from 17 to 38 minutes and 11 to 24 miles (39 km) around the three-quarter mile course over Huffman Prairie, near Dayton, Ohio. Wilbur made the last and longest flight, 24.5 miles (39.4 km) in 38 minutes and 3 seconds, ending with a safe landing when the fuel ran out. The flight was seen by a number of people, including several invited friends, their father Bishop Milton Wright, and neighboring farmers.[2]

217.44.141.1 (talk) 13:08, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that the reason for the statement was to counter many suppositions as to the rival claim of the Wrights. Leave it in place unless you have a consensus for change. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 13:12, 21 February 2010 (UTC).[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.wright-brothers.org/History_Wing/History_of_the_Airplane/Who_Was_First/Santos_Dumont/Santos_Dumont.htm
  2. ^ "Wright Brothers Scrapbooks, p. 12." Dayton Metro Library. Retrieved: 9 January 2010.

Nationality[edit]

If his father was French the soon was too. Since the father was French when he went to Brazil and that it is not possible to loose a French nationality (well, not in theses conditions), the most probable is that the father was French or maybe French-Brazilian, and so was the soon. Most likely Santos Dumont had a dual nationality, that would explain a lot of the story. v_atekor (talk) 07:46, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[removed my remark again. Nerves. Sorry.].Psycho Chicken (talk) 05:47, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Franco-Brazilian[edit]

I think that Santos-Dumont should probably be described as "Franco-Brazilian". For one thing he came to France with his family at age 17 and lived there the rest of his life (except that last year back in Brazil). For another his father was French. And FWIW it's almost certainly true that if he'd stayed in Brazil he wouldn't have been able to achieve the things he did (no Antionette engines and many other things). I don't know what his citizenship status was though. But I think most any other person in this situation would be hyphenated. I mean, Regina Spektor for instance is described as simply "American" not even "Russian-American", granted she left Russia at age nine rather than 17, but still.

So I made the change. My guess is that it'll be reverted and probably for reasons of Brazilian chauvanism, and its not of earthshaking import so I'm not gonna fight over that, but I'm probably right. Herostratus (talk) 15:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

you are fully right, not only as described but legally, because he had his father French and then had the French nationality too, even if Brazil do not recognize dual-nationalities (That's the key of the problem... opting for the Brazilian pov only is a pov. The article should present the problem, I think... ) v_atekor (talk) 20:50, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Alberto's father was born in Brazil, although educated in France. Alberto considered himself Brazilian. He actually spent a substantial part of his later life, including 1915-22, in Brazil. I don't think Franco-Brazilian will wash.TheLongTone (talk) 14:51, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Technically, it would have been "Brazilian-French", if he had French nationality, as he was born in Brazil and later became French. If you're born in Brazil and later get American nationality you're an Brazilian-American, not an American-Brazilian, which would be the other way around. Also, in English it seems that the same form of gentilic is used for both the "adjective" (first) and the "main" (second) components, rather than these reduced forms or whatever they're called. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.68.109.57 (talk) 04:41, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I believe Santos Dumont was both French and Brazilian. I do not have any specific evidence for that, except that I know that he signed his name as Santos=Dumont, meaning that both names (Santos is a Brazilian name and Dumont is of French origin) had the same importance for him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nelbr (talk • contribs) 21:18, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Assinatura_do_Santos_Dumont_2.png — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nelbr (talk • contribs) 21:22, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Believes and guesses. Wikipedia.Psycho Chicken (talk) 05:48, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removing comparative section[edit]

There was a whole section consisting of only this phrase: "Aviation historians credit the Wright Brothers with the creation of the first successful heavier-than-air flying machine, able to take off under its own power and capable of sustained and controlled flight." I noticed that it was actually written in a pro-Santos Dumont way before and someone just changed to Wright Brothers and added a different source. I removed the whole section, and the reasons are quite fair. What's the point of having a comparative section that actually just states one side is indisputably right? That was no comparison, only a statement, and a false one, because it implies that all aviation historians credit the Wright Brothers, while actually there are historians crediting Santos Dumont, Ader and many others. The whole point of this discussion is that there is actually no consensus about a clear definition of what is an airplane. Everybody agrees it must be heavier-than-air and human managed, of course, but apart from that there are many possibilities, regarding the taking off process, the maneuverability, etc, as well as the quality of the confirmations (witnessing, photos, film...) of the flight. Enlarging the definition will favor 19th century aviators like Ader and narrow definitions favor Dumont. There is really no point in having a comparative section unless it shows the main arguments for each claim, instead of a statement of a false consensus.191.249.28.35 (talk) 05:30, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Morris Tribune. [volume], September 29, 1906, Image 7
KEEPING TAB ON THE WORLD
Concluded from page 2.
Santos Dumont's Mechanical Flight.
Although M. Santos-Dumont in his new aeroplane, the Bird of Prey, was able to traverse the air at Paris only a distance of thirty-seven feet before his ship came to the ground with a crash, nevertheless the test is regarded as one of great importance because it was the first time an airship had ever left the earth unaided.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn91059394/1906-09-29/ed-1/seq-7/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=15&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:22, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nature – November 8, 1906, Page 35
The First “Manned” Flying Machine.
OCTOBER 23 of the present year will be remembered as a red-letter day in the history of flying machines, for it was on that day that the first flying machine, constructed on the “heavier than air” principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards.
In this his first successful flight with this machine. M. Santos Dumont is to be sincerely congratulated, for he has accomplished a performance which many workers in different parts of the world have been striving after for many years past and failed.
https://www.nature.com/articles/075035a0#:~:text=OCTOBER%2023%20of%20the%20present,itself%20by%20means%20of%20its 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:23, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New-York Tribune. [volume], November 20, 1906, Page 6, Image 6
SANTOS-DUMONT ANTICIPATED.
A fresh reason for determining the amount of glory due to Santos-Dumont for his recent flights with an aeroplane is afforded by an article in the latest number of "Nature" to reach this country. In that periodical it is asserted that on October 23 "the first flying machine, constructed on the 'heavier than air' principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards." While that statement is probably correct, the merit of the performance can be rightly estimated only by a comparison with what Wilbur and Orville Wright, of Dayton, Ohio, have been able to accomplish.
Santos-Dumont has been at work on the aeroplane only about a year. Most of his aeronautic experiments were conducted with an entirely different class of airship, the self-propelled balloon. On the other hand, the Wright brothers have been identified with the aeroplane for at least four or five years and perhaps longer. In a letter to the Aero Club of America, last winter they told the results attained by them up to the close of 1905. So startling were their claims that in France and Germany their story was received with much skepticism. With a creditable desire to vindicate the honor of the country, The Scientific American" addressed a circular letter of inquiry to seventeen persons who, according to the Wrights, had witnessed their aerial voyages. Twelve responses were received, one of them coming from Mr. Octave Chanute, the author of a well known work on aeronautic experiments and a man whose veracity no well informed foreigner or American would venture to question. The testimony of each of these witnesses was in substantial agreement with that of the others. Though now and then doubt would be expressed as to the exact date of a flight, the distance covered or some other detail, the general tenor of the letters seemed to put the truthfulness of the Wrights' statement quite beyond dispute.
It is worthy of note, in the interests of justice, that the Brazilian has made better provision for launching an aeroplane than the Wrights did last year. His machine, when on the ground, is supported by wheels. When the Wrights were ready to start, theirs was arranged crosswise on a pair of rails. To overcome the friction between these and the lower part of the frame, it was necessary to rely on external aid. Their aeroplane would not lift itself clear of the rails until it had been pushed forward twenty-five or thirty feet by hand, whereas the one which has just created a sensation in Europe will advance without assistance as soon as the propellers begin to revolve and will rise shortly afterward unhelped. Strictly speaking, then, "Nature" is quite right when it says that Santos-Dumont's machine is the first to raise Itself by means of its own power.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1906-11-20/ed-1/seq-6/#date1=1770&index=18&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:24, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Evening Star. [volume], December 09, 1906, Sunday star, Page 5, Image 53
The Sunday Star, Washington, D. C., December 09, 1906—Part 4.
(Copyright, 1906, by John Elfreth Watkins.)
SANTOS-DUMONT is the first man to have performed aerial flight with a self-propelled machine heavier than the air which it displaced. He has solved a problem which has caused inventive geniuses to burn the midnight oil and toss restlessly upon their couches since centuries before the dawn of the Christian era. During three millenniums or more ambitious men have broken their hearts and their heads seeking the great goal which this fearless Brazilian has won within the past few weeks.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1906-12-09/ed-1/seq-53/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=aerial+air+displaced+DUMONT+first+flight+have+heavier+machine+man+performed+propelled+SANTOS+SANTOS-DUMONT+self+self-propelled+than+which&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=SANTOS-DUMONT+is+the+first+man+to+have+performed+aerial+flight+with+a+self-propelled+machine+heavier+than+the+air+which+it+displaced&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:25, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Danville Intelligencer. [volume], January 04, 1907, Image 1
It remained for the world of 1906 to see the first mechanical navigation of the air from a standing start in a screw-propelled aeroplane. This was achieved by M. Santos-Dumont, at Paris, September 13. in his airship, the Bird of Prey.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86053369/1907-01-04/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=+aeroplanes+of+Santos+Dumont&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=7 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:26, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Flying Machines: practice and design – December, 1909, Page 54
Santos-Dumont, in November, 1906, with a petrol driven aeroplane machine, accomplished a short flight successfully, and so is probably the first man carried on a mechanically propelled flying machine. He accomplished a flight of 200 ft. at about 8 ft. from the ground, and secured the Archdeacon prize cup.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark%3A%2F13960%2Ft7sn02698&seq=70 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Democratic Advocate. [volume], January 11, 1907, Image 1
Address By President Armstrong.
William H. Armstrong, former president of the Maryland State Turnpike Association, delivered the following address at the meeting held in Hagerstown on December 29:
“In the near future, there may float in the ocean of air above us, simulachres of those winged monsters of the paleozoic age, that lived by the shores of nameless lakes and left their ‘footprints in the sands of time.' These griffins of the sky will be the aeroplanes of Santos Dumont, and may be the evolution ary successors of the horse, the automobile and the trolley. They will carry their freight, in cars less costly, against a material less resistant than earth or water and be operated at an expense less than the vehicles now used by man.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85038292/1907-01-11/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplanes+Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=14&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=10 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:05, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Flying Machines: practice and design – December, 1909, Page 54
Santos-Dumont, in November, 1906, with a petrol driven aeroplane machine, accomplished a short flight successfully, and so is probably the first man carried on a mechanically propelled flying machine. He accomplished a flight of 200 ft. at about 8 ft. from the ground, and secured the Archdeacon prize cup.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark%3A%2F13960%2Ft7sn02698&seq=70
Evening Star. [volume], February 05, 1911, Page 16, Image 40
HOW AVIATION STANDS TO-DAY
BY FRED T. JANE. Editor of "All the World's Airships"
Early Experiments
THE aëroplane is the antithesis of the dirigible. Unlike the latter, it makes no attempt to reproduce in air what a fish does in water. It seeks to do in the air what a bird does. At present it has advanced a step, in that its present practical exposition is no longer an imitation bird. It has got to adapting certain bird characteristics instead.
Twenty years ago any man who even thought that heavier than air flying might become possible was regarded as a lunatic. Ten years ago anyone who tried to make such a thing was regarded with gravest suspicion. Early experiments were regarded as pure folly.
Then came the boxkite, able to lift men. It was obvious that if an engine could be made to do the essential work of a boxkite string, a kite would need no string, and be a flying machine. Santos-Dumont, the first man to fly on a heavier than air machine, did so on a series of boxkites which subsequently developed into the well known Voisin type of aëroplane. Henry Farman in one of the Voisin machines proved that controlled flight in a heavier than air machine was possible.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1911-02-05/ed-1/seq-40/#date1=1770&index=14&rows=20&words=Dumont+first+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+first&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume], November 07, 1909, Sunday Edition, THIRD SECTION, Page 23, Image 23
Santos Dumont Was the First Real Air Passenger
Every great advance toward the conquest of the air, whether it be made by the Wright brothers, Curtiss, Bleriot, Latham or any of the host of others who are now directing their attention toward solving the problem, reflects some credit on Santos-Dumont.
He brought about the present extraordinary interest in aeronautics. His experiments, beginning a decade ago with a dirigible balloon and continuing to his present aeroplane of today, were the spur that started hundreds of experimenters.
The little Brazilian, resident of Paris for so long, and fitting so thoroughly into the life of the metropolis, has been believed by many to be a Frenchman, but he is a South American by birth, and his father is immensely wealthy.
It is a curious contradiction that from the coffee fields of Brazil rather than from the capitals of Europe should come the man who is really the inspiration of the last few years' wonderful advance in conquering the air.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85047084/1909-11-07/ed-1/seq-23/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=Brazil+coffee+contradiction+curious+fields+from&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=It+is+a+curious+contradiction+that+from+the+coffee+fields+of+Brazil+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
The Evening Statesman. [volume], September 29, 1909, Page Four, Image 4
SANTOS-DUMONT TO THE FRONT.
M. Santos-Dumont has emerged from his seclusion with an aeroplane of his own invention both smaller and swifter than those of his rivals. We are told also that its wings spread only a sixth as many square feet as does the machine of his best known rivals, the Wrights; with its one passenger on board it weighs but 240 pounds, and in its first public flights it made a speed of fifty-five miles an hour. Truly this is something worth waiting for, and we now understand what Santos-Dumont was doing in the time when he was silent. It is almost inconceivable that an art that is only in its infancy should bring such remarkable results so soon. It seems but yesterday that the first announcement was made to the world that a heavier-than-air machine actually flew. Yet Santos-Dumont now comes forward with a small and compact little craft weighing, with him on board only 260 pounds and accomplishing the astonishing speed of 55 miles an hour.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085421/1909-09-29/ed-1/seq-4/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=announcement+first+heavier+made+world&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=the+first+announcement+was+made+to+the+world+that+a+heavier&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
The Intermountain Catholic., October 23, 1909, Page 3, Image 3
Santos Dumont First Flyer.
(From the New York Press.)
Pan-America rejoices that our gallant premier aviator, Santos Dumont, again strides the blast to the tune of 55 miles the hour. He is a rara avis; indeed, the first who flew in public and showed an astounded world the miracle of a man's flight. He is a whole world prodigy, and his name should be fastened to a star or bestowed upon the first convenient coming comet. Brazil may cut the name of Dumont in letters 50 feet high across the face of the peak of the Sugar Loaf mountain at the entrance to the harbor of Rio de Janeiro as a monument of Miltonic majesty to the Brazilian eagle. His father, old man Dumont, a Frenchman, was the pioneer coffee man in the big Santos district of Brazil. He sold out his plantation a number of years ago to a syndicate. Two brothers are quiet bankers in the city of San maulo, Brazil. Santos was believed for a long time to be a mere nutty spendthrift.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn93062856/1909-10-23/ed-1/seq-3/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=astounded+first+flew+public+showed+who&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=the+first+who+flew+in+public+and+showed+an+astounded+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
Newark Evening Star and Newark advertiser. [volume], February 08, 1915, HOME EDITION, Page 8, Image 8
AMERICA GETS A FAMOUS AIRMAN.
It is good news for the interests of aviation in this country that Santos-Dumont, the famous Brazilian airman, is to make the United States his permanent home. This, for America, is one of the fortunate results of the war, as Santos-Dumont in recent years has been devoting himself to the development of aviation in France.
Santos-Dumont years ago startled the world as a pioneer navigator of the dirigible balloon, and has the distinction of the first public flight in an aeroplane. He will be an immense help to popularizing aviation in the United States. If the nation has a few thousand citizen aviators it will be an immensely valuable aeronautic reserve.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn91064011/1915-02-08/ed-1/seq-8/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=country+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=6&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos-Dumont+This+Country&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=5
Evening Star. [volume], January 09, 1916, Page 4, Image 22
The Sunday Star, Washington, D. C., January 9, 1916-Part 2.
THE WAR'S GEOGRAPHICAL LESSONS
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On the oriental front it was the 3.000 automobiles of Gen. Hindenburg which changed the issue of the furious battle of Bzoura, also called the battle of Lodz. Thus the automobile is another lesson of the war of which the Germans believed that they alone possessed the secret under the head of "mobel machen." Von Hindenburg's Automobiles.
The actual war has become a subject of incessant disquietude and tension on the part of neutral states which, notwithstanding their good intentions in the matter of their neutrality, are attacked and their rights as neutrals violated. This disquietude has proved a latent factor certainly in the meeting at Washington these days of the Pan-America Scientific Congress. The congress has discussed the ways and means to a closer union for the development of their commerce and their mutual protection, bearing in mind the semiofficial threat of a distinguished military visitor two years before the war.
There was nothing more natural than that aviation from a scientific and economical point of view should be a special subject of discussion by this congress of pan-Americans, all the more that there was present as a member of the congress the man who is considered as the pioneer and father of modern aviation, M. Alberto Santos-Dumont.
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https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1916-01-09/ed-1/seq-22/#date1=1770&index=2&rows=20&words=aviation+father+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=%22father+of+aviation%22+santos&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
El Imparcial., San Juan, Puerto Rico, May 09, 1919, Page 3.
ENGLISH SECTION
OPINIONS OF MY OWN
BY Claudio Capó.
ON AIR NAVIGATION
Air navigation, which is in its infancy, has progressed wonderfully since it first became a practical proposition. Of course, man must have thought of the convenience of being able to fly, since the very moment he perceived other animals going through space. But is is only within the present generation that real progress has been made in the science of aerial navigation, and at the rate it goes we should not be at all surprised if one of these days a trip to the Moon were seriously considered.
If we remember right, Santos Dumont was the first man to flew in a heavier-than-air machine. The Wright Brothers are spoken of in the United States as the first inventors to make of the art a practical proposition. Of the lighter-than-air devices, the most famous are those constructed by Count Zeppelin.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88073003/1919-05-09/ed-1/seq-3/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=Dumont+first+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=13&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+first&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2
July 20, 1969 = Apollo 11 = Moon
One Giant Leap For Mankind
Santos Dumont (20 July, 1873 – 23 July, 1932)
July 20, 1969
July 20, 1873
International Astronomical Union – Santos-Dumont (crater)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santos-Dumont_(crater)
Santos-Dumont propeller
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Santos-Dumont_(propeller) 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 19:43, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Well done. There is an entire article on this

Main article: Early flying machines

so there is no need to rehash it here. I edited the original text down since it incorrectly stated that Dumont flew the "first successful heavier-than-air flying machine, able to take off under its own power and capable of sustained and controlled flight" and then presented an unsourced laundry list of claims about the wright brothers. To your point while the original claim is false, you can make it true by adding fixed-wing or witnessed by Aéro-Club de France to it. As you have said it's mostly a controversy of semantics. BlueDingo (talk) 18:38, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Morris Tribune. [volume], September 29, 1906, Image 7
KEEPING TAB ON THE WORLD
Concluded from page 2.
Santos Dumont's Mechanical Flight.
Although M. Santos-Dumont in his new aeroplane, the Bird of Prey, was able to traverse the air at Paris only a distance of thirty-seven feet before his ship came to the ground with a crash, nevertheless the test is regarded as one of great importance because it was the first time an airship had ever left the earth unaided.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn91059394/1906-09-29/ed-1/seq-7/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=15&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:27, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nature – November 8, 1906, Page 35
The First “Manned” Flying Machine.
OCTOBER 23 of the present year will be remembered as a red-letter day in the history of flying machines, for it was on that day that the first flying machine, constructed on the “heavier than air” principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards.
In this his first successful flight with this machine. M. Santos Dumont is to be sincerely congratulated, for he has accomplished a performance which many workers in different parts of the world have been striving after for many years past and failed.
https://www.nature.com/articles/075035a0#:~:text=OCTOBER%2023%20of%20the%20present,itself%20by%20means%20of%20its 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:28, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New-York Tribune. [volume], November 20, 1906, Page 6, Image 6
SANTOS-DUMONT ANTICIPATED.
A fresh reason for determining the amount of glory due to Santos-Dumont for his recent flights with an aeroplane is afforded by an article in the latest number of "Nature" to reach this country. In that periodical it is asserted that on October 23 "the first flying machine, constructed on the 'heavier than air' principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards." While that statement is probably correct, the merit of the performance can be rightly estimated only by a comparison with what Wilbur and Orville Wright, of Dayton, Ohio, have been able to accomplish.
Santos-Dumont has been at work on the aeroplane only about a year. Most of his aeronautic experiments were conducted with an entirely different class of airship, the self-propelled balloon. On the other hand, the Wright brothers have been identified with the aeroplane for at least four or five years and perhaps longer. In a letter to the Aero Club of America, last winter they told the results attained by them up to the close of 1905. So startling were their claims that in France and Germany their story was received with much skepticism. With a creditable desire to vindicate the honor of the country, The Scientific American" addressed a circular letter of inquiry to seventeen persons who, according to the Wrights, had witnessed their aerial voyages. Twelve responses were received, one of them coming from Mr. Octave Chanute, the author of a well known work on aeronautic experiments and a man whose veracity no well informed foreigner or American would venture to question. The testimony of each of these witnesses was in substantial agreement with that of the others. Though now and then doubt would be expressed as to the exact date of a flight, the distance covered or some other detail, the general tenor of the letters seemed to put the truthfulness of the Wrights' statement quite beyond dispute.
It is worthy of note, in the interests of justice, that the Brazilian has made better provision for launching an aeroplane than the Wrights did last year. His machine, when on the ground, is supported by wheels. When the Wrights were ready to start, theirs was arranged crosswise on a pair of rails. To overcome the friction between these and the lower part of the frame, it was necessary to rely on external aid. Their aeroplane would not lift itself clear of the rails until it had been pushed forward twenty-five or thirty feet by hand, whereas the one which has just created a sensation in Europe will advance without assistance as soon as the propellers begin to revolve and will rise shortly afterward unhelped. Strictly speaking, then, "Nature" is quite right when it says that Santos-Dumont's machine is the first to raise Itself by means of its own power.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1906-11-20/ed-1/seq-6/#date1=1770&index=18&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:29, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Evening Star. [volume], December 09, 1906, Sunday star, Page 5, Image 53
The Sunday Star, Washington, D. C., December 09, 1906—Part 4.
(Copyright, 1906, by John Elfreth Watkins.)
SANTOS-DUMONT is the first man to have performed aerial flight with a self-propelled machine heavier than the air which it displaced. He has solved a problem which has caused inventive geniuses to burn the midnight oil and toss restlessly upon their couches since centuries before the dawn of the Christian era. During three millenniums or more ambitious men have broken their hearts and their heads seeking the great goal which this fearless Brazilian has won within the past few weeks.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1906-12-09/ed-1/seq-53/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=aerial+air+displaced+DUMONT+first+flight+have+heavier+machine+man+performed+propelled+SANTOS+SANTOS-DUMONT+self+self-propelled+than+which&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=SANTOS-DUMONT+is+the+first+man+to+have+performed+aerial+flight+with+a+self-propelled+machine+heavier+than+the+air+which+it+displaced&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:30, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Danville Intelligencer. [volume], January 04, 1907, Image 1
It remained for the world of 1906 to see the first mechanical navigation of the air from a standing start in a screw-propelled aeroplane. This was achieved by M. Santos-Dumont, at Paris, September 13. in his airship, the Bird of Prey.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86053369/1907-01-04/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=+aeroplanes+of+Santos+Dumont&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=7 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:30, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Flying Machines: practice and design – December, 1909, Page 54
Santos-Dumont, in November, 1906, with a petrol driven aeroplane machine, accomplished a short flight successfully, and so is probably the first man carried on a mechanically propelled flying machine. He accomplished a flight of 200 ft. at about 8 ft. from the ground, and secured the Archdeacon prize cup.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark%3A%2F13960%2Ft7sn02698&seq=70 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:04, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Democratic Advocate. [volume], January 11, 1907, Image 1
Address By President Armstrong.
William H. Armstrong, former president of the Maryland State Turnpike Association, delivered the following address at the meeting held in Hagerstown on December 29:
“In the near future, there may float in the ocean of air above us, simulachres of those winged monsters of the paleozoic age, that lived by the shores of nameless lakes and left their ‘footprints in the sands of time.' These griffins of the sky will be the aeroplanes of Santos Dumont, and may be the evolution ary successors of the horse, the automobile and the trolley. They will carry their freight, in cars less costly, against a material less resistant than earth or water and be operated at an expense less than the vehicles now used by man.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85038292/1907-01-11/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplanes+Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=14&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=10 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:04, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Evening Star. [volume], February 05, 1911, Page 16, Image 40
HOW AVIATION STANDS TO-DAY
BY FRED T. JANE. Editor of "All the World's Airships"
Early Experiments
THE aëroplane is the antithesis of the dirigible. Unlike the latter, it makes no attempt to reproduce in air what a fish does in water. It seeks to do in the air what a bird does. At present it has advanced a step, in that its present practical exposition is no longer an imitation bird. It has got to adapting certain bird characteristics instead.
Twenty years ago any man who even thought that heavier than air flying might become possible was regarded as a lunatic. Ten years ago anyone who tried to make such a thing was regarded with gravest suspicion. Early experiments were regarded as pure folly.
Then came the boxkite, able to lift men. It was obvious that if an engine could be made to do the essential work of a boxkite string, a kite would need no string, and be a flying machine. Santos-Dumont, the first man to fly on a heavier than air machine, did so on a series of boxkites which subsequently developed into the well known Voisin type of aëroplane. Henry Farman in one of the Voisin machines proved that controlled flight in a heavier than air machine was possible.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1911-02-05/ed-1/seq-40/#date1=1770&index=14&rows=20&words=Dumont+first+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+first&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume], November 07, 1909, Sunday Edition, THIRD SECTION, Page 23, Image 23
Santos Dumont Was the First Real Air Passenger
Every great advance toward the conquest of the air, whether it be made by the Wright brothers, Curtiss, Bleriot, Latham or any of the host of others who are now directing their attention toward solving the problem, reflects some credit on Santos-Dumont.
He brought about the present extraordinary interest in aeronautics. His experiments, beginning a decade ago with a dirigible balloon and continuing to his present aeroplane of today, were the spur that started hundreds of experimenters.
The little Brazilian, resident of Paris for so long, and fitting so thoroughly into the life of the metropolis, has been believed by many to be a Frenchman, but he is a South American by birth, and his father is immensely wealthy.
It is a curious contradiction that from the coffee fields of Brazil rather than from the capitals of Europe should come the man who is really the inspiration of the last few years' wonderful advance in conquering the air.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85047084/1909-11-07/ed-1/seq-23/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=Brazil+coffee+contradiction+curious+fields+from&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=It+is+a+curious+contradiction+that+from+the+coffee+fields+of+Brazil+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
The Evening Statesman. [volume], September 29, 1909, Page Four, Image 4
SANTOS-DUMONT TO THE FRONT.
M. Santos-Dumont has emerged from his seclusion with an aeroplane of his own invention both smaller and swifter than those of his rivals. We are told also that its wings spread only a sixth as many square feet as does the machine of his best known rivals, the Wrights; with its one passenger on board it weighs but 240 pounds, and in its first public flights it made a speed of fifty-five miles an hour. Truly this is something worth waiting for, and we now understand what Santos-Dumont was doing in the time when he was silent. It is almost inconceivable that an art that is only in its infancy should bring such remarkable results so soon. It seems but yesterday that the first announcement was made to the world that a heavier-than-air machine actually flew. Yet Santos-Dumont now comes forward with a small and compact little craft weighing, with him on board only 260 pounds and accomplishing the astonishing speed of 55 miles an hour.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085421/1909-09-29/ed-1/seq-4/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=announcement+first+heavier+made+world&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=the+first+announcement+was+made+to+the+world+that+a+heavier&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
The Intermountain Catholic., October 23, 1909, Page 3, Image 3
Santos Dumont First Flyer.
(From the New York Press.)
Pan-America rejoices that our gallant premier aviator, Santos Dumont, again strides the blast to the tune of 55 miles the hour. He is a rara avis; indeed, the first who flew in public and showed an astounded world the miracle of a man's flight. He is a whole world prodigy, and his name should be fastened to a star or bestowed upon the first convenient coming comet. Brazil may cut the name of Dumont in letters 50 feet high across the face of the peak of the Sugar Loaf mountain at the entrance to the harbor of Rio de Janeiro as a monument of Miltonic majesty to the Brazilian eagle. His father, old man Dumont, a Frenchman, was the pioneer coffee man in the big Santos district of Brazil. He sold out his plantation a number of years ago to a syndicate. Two brothers are quiet bankers in the city of San maulo, Brazil. Santos was believed for a long time to be a mere nutty spendthrift.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn93062856/1909-10-23/ed-1/seq-3/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=astounded+first+flew+public+showed+who&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=the+first+who+flew+in+public+and+showed+an+astounded+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
Newark Evening Star and Newark advertiser. [volume], February 08, 1915, HOME EDITION, Page 8, Image 8
AMERICA GETS A FAMOUS AIRMAN.
It is good news for the interests of aviation in this country that Santos-Dumont, the famous Brazilian airman, is to make the United States his permanent home. This, for America, is one of the fortunate results of the war, as Santos-Dumont in recent years has been devoting himself to the development of aviation in France.
Santos-Dumont years ago startled the world as a pioneer navigator of the dirigible balloon, and has the distinction of the first public flight in an aeroplane. He will be an immense help to popularizing aviation in the United States. If the nation has a few thousand citizen aviators it will be an immensely valuable aeronautic reserve.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn91064011/1915-02-08/ed-1/seq-8/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=country+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=6&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos-Dumont+This+Country&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=5
Evening Star. [volume], January 09, 1916, Page 4, Image 22
The Sunday Star, Washington, D. C., January 9, 1916-Part 2.
THE WAR'S GEOGRAPHICAL LESSONS
⁂
On the oriental front it was the 3.000 automobiles of Gen. Hindenburg which changed the issue of the furious battle of Bzoura, also called the battle of Lodz. Thus the automobile is another lesson of the war of which the Germans believed that they alone possessed the secret under the head of "mobel machen." Von Hindenburg's Automobiles.
The actual war has become a subject of incessant disquietude and tension on the part of neutral states which, notwithstanding their good intentions in the matter of their neutrality, are attacked and their rights as neutrals violated. This disquietude has proved a latent factor certainly in the meeting at Washington these days of the Pan-America Scientific Congress. The congress has discussed the ways and means to a closer union for the development of their commerce and their mutual protection, bearing in mind the semiofficial threat of a distinguished military visitor two years before the war.
There was nothing more natural than that aviation from a scientific and economical point of view should be a special subject of discussion by this congress of pan-Americans, all the more that there was present as a member of the congress the man who is considered as the pioneer and father of modern aviation, M. Alberto Santos-Dumont.
⁂
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1916-01-09/ed-1/seq-22/#date1=1770&index=2&rows=20&words=aviation+father+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=%22father+of+aviation%22+santos&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
El Imparcial., San Juan, Puerto Rico, May 09, 1919, Page 3.
ENGLISH SECTION
OPINIONS OF MY OWN
BY Claudio Capó.
ON AIR NAVIGATION
Air navigation, which is in its infancy, has progressed wonderfully since it first became a practical proposition. Of course, man must have thought of the convenience of being able to fly, since the very moment he perceived other animals going through space. But is is only within the present generation that real progress has been made in the science of aerial navigation, and at the rate it goes we should not be at all surprised if one of these days a trip to the Moon were seriously considered.
If we remember right, Santos Dumont was the first man to flew in a heavier-than-air machine. The Wright Brothers are spoken of in the United States as the first inventors to make of the art a practical proposition. Of the lighter-than-air devices, the most famous are those constructed by Count Zeppelin.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88073003/1919-05-09/ed-1/seq-3/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=Dumont+first+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=13&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+first&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2
July 20, 1969 = Apollo 11 = Moon
One Giant Leap For Mankind
Santos Dumont (20 July, 1873 – 23 July, 1932)
July 20, 1969
July 20, 1873
International Astronomical Union – Santos-Dumont (crater)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santos-Dumont_(crater)
Santos-Dumont propeller
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Santos-Dumont_(propeller) 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 19:44, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Photo of 'No. 6 rounding the Eiffel tower'[edit]

This photograph is not what it is very widely purported to be. It is in fact a photograph of No.5 taken on 13 July 1901, and published in the August 1901 issue of l'Aérophile.TheLongTone (talk) 16:16, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Death[edit]

No one is sure if he really commited suicide over the use of aircraft at the 1932 Revolution. It's seen as a myth or a tale... In fact, aircraft had been used widely long before (Alberto was in Europe when the Great War started) for combat and he stood up... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arcanj106 (talk • contribs) 03:18, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is hard to know. He already stated have disgust over the user of airplanes as killer machines (like in his 1918 book - but he also said that the Brazilian aeronautics should be well developed as in Europe) and is well know that his health was deteriorating in the later years (an airplane accident that resulted in several deaths during a party in his homage made the things even worse. Erick Soares3 (talk) 14:31, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Article about the airplane accident in Portuguese. Erick Soares3 (talk) 15:29, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Removal of "popularly held that he preceded the Wright brothers"[edit]

The reason I removed this is not because it was unsourced, but because it appears exclusively in the lead and not in the body of the article. The purpose of the lead is to summarize the body of the article, and as such it should not contain information that is not present in the body. I would have no objection to the sentence were there a section in the body of the article discussing (and rebutting with the consensus view, as the cited source does and due weight would have us do) the statement being made. I believe a section like this once existed, but was deleted at some point. Until such a section exists in the body however, it bears no mentioning in the lead. UnequivocalAmbivalence (talk) 04:10, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to add such a section. In the meantime, an article on Santos Dumont that omits this basic fact would be an absurdity. EEng 04:18, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This tidbit about his relationship to the Wright Brothers is literally the only reason I've ever even heard of him 73.180.42.186 (talk) 07:10, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@3.180.42.186: A lot of people in Brazil only know about the Wright Brothers because of that, too. Erick Soares3 (talk) 14:23, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Morris Tribune. [volume], September 29, 1906, Image 7
KEEPING TAB ON THE WORLD
Concluded from page 2.
Santos Dumont's Mechanical Flight.
Although M. Santos-Dumont in his new aeroplane, the Bird of Prey, was able to traverse the air at Paris only a distance of thirty-seven feet before his ship came to the ground with a crash, nevertheless the test is regarded as one of great importance because it was the first time an airship had ever left the earth unaided.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn91059394/1906-09-29/ed-1/seq-7/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=15&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:09, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nature – November 8, 1906, Page 35
The First “Manned” Flying Machine.
OCTOBER 23 of the present year will be remembered as a red-letter day in the history of flying machines, for it was on that day that the first flying machine, constructed on the “heavier than air” principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards.
In this his first successful flight with this machine. M. Santos Dumont is to be sincerely congratulated, for he has accomplished a performance which many workers in different parts of the world have been striving after for many years past and failed.
https://www.nature.com/articles/075035a0#:~:text=OCTOBER%2023%20of%20the%20present,itself%20by%20means%20of%20its 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New-York Tribune. [volume], November 20, 1906, Page 6, Image 6
SANTOS-DUMONT ANTICIPATED.
A fresh reason for determining the amount of glory due to Santos-Dumont for his recent flights with an aeroplane is afforded by an article in the latest number of "Nature" to reach this country. In that periodical it is asserted that on October 23 "the first flying machine, constructed on the 'heavier than air' principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards." While that statement is probably correct, the merit of the performance can be rightly estimated only by a comparison with what Wilbur and Orville Wright, of Dayton, Ohio, have been able to accomplish.
Santos-Dumont has been at work on the aeroplane only about a year. Most of his aeronautic experiments were conducted with an entirely different class of airship, the self-propelled balloon. On the other hand, the Wright brothers have been identified with the aeroplane for at least four or five years and perhaps longer. In a letter to the Aero Club of America, last winter they told the results attained by them up to the close of 1905. So startling were their claims that in France and Germany their story was received with much skepticism. With a creditable desire to vindicate the honor of the country, The Scientific American" addressed a circular letter of inquiry to seventeen persons who, according to the Wrights, had witnessed their aerial voyages. Twelve responses were received, one of them coming from Mr. Octave Chanute, the author of a well known work on aeronautic experiments and a man whose veracity no well informed foreigner or American would venture to question. The testimony of each of these witnesses was in substantial agreement with that of the others. Though now and then doubt would be expressed as to the exact date of a flight, the distance covered or some other detail, the general tenor of the letters seemed to put the truthfulness of the Wrights' statement quite beyond dispute.
It is worthy of note, in the interests of justice, that the Brazilian has made better provision for launching an aeroplane than the Wrights did last year. His machine, when on the ground, is supported by wheels. When the Wrights were ready to start, theirs was arranged crosswise on a pair of rails. To overcome the friction between these and the lower part of the frame, it was necessary to rely on external aid. Their aeroplane would not lift itself clear of the rails until it had been pushed forward twenty-five or thirty feet by hand, whereas the one which has just created a sensation in Europe will advance without assistance as soon as the propellers begin to revolve and will rise shortly afterward unhelped. Strictly speaking, then, "Nature" is quite right when it says that Santos-Dumont's machine is the first to raise Itself by means of its own power.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1906-11-20/ed-1/seq-6/#date1=1770&index=18&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:11, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Evening Star. [volume], December 09, 1906, Sunday star, Page 5, Image 53
The Sunday Star, Washington, D. C., December 09, 1906—Part 4.
(Copyright, 1906, by John Elfreth Watkins.)
SANTOS-DUMONT is the first man to have performed aerial flight with a self-propelled machine heavier than the air which it displaced. He has solved a problem which has caused inventive geniuses to burn the midnight oil and toss restlessly upon their couches since centuries before the dawn of the Christian era. During three millenniums or more ambitious men have broken their hearts and their heads seeking the great goal which this fearless Brazilian has won within the past few weeks.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1906-12-09/ed-1/seq-53/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=aerial+air+displaced+DUMONT+first+flight+have+heavier+machine+man+performed+propelled+SANTOS+SANTOS-DUMONT+self+self-propelled+than+which&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=SANTOS-DUMONT+is+the+first+man+to+have+performed+aerial+flight+with+a+self-propelled+machine+heavier+than+the+air+which+it+displaced&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Danville Intelligencer. [volume], January 04, 1907, Image 1
It remained for the world of 1906 to see the first mechanical navigation of the air from a standing start in a screw-propelled aeroplane. This was achieved by M. Santos-Dumont, at Paris, September 13. in his airship, the Bird of Prey.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86053369/1907-01-04/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=+aeroplanes+of+Santos+Dumont&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=7 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Flying Machines: practice and design – December, 1909, Page 54
Santos-Dumont, in November, 1906, with a petrol driven aeroplane machine, accomplished a short flight successfully, and so is probably the first man carried on a mechanically propelled flying machine. He accomplished a flight of 200 ft. at about 8 ft. from the ground, and secured the Archdeacon prize cup.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark%3A%2F13960%2Ft7sn02698&seq=70 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Democratic Advocate. [volume], January 11, 1907, Image 1
Address By President Armstrong.
William H. Armstrong, former president of the Maryland State Turnpike Association, delivered the following address at the meeting held in Hagerstown on December 29:
“In the near future, there may float in the ocean of air above us, simulachres of those winged monsters of the paleozoic age, that lived by the shores of nameless lakes and left their ‘footprints in the sands of time.' These griffins of the sky will be the aeroplanes of Santos Dumont, and may be the evolution ary successors of the horse, the automobile and the trolley. They will carry their freight, in cars less costly, against a material less resistant than earth or water and be operated at an expense less than the vehicles now used by man.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85038292/1907-01-11/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplanes+Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=14&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=10 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:14, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Expand?[edit]

Hey, Herostratus, I happened to notice you above. For quite some time I've been meaning to expand this article, and I've got the following on my shelf:

  • Alberto Santos-Dumont Barros, Henrique Lins de. 1986.
  • Santos-Dumont and the conquest of the air, tr. by Luiz Victor Le Cocq d'Oliveira. Napoleão, Aluízio, 1945.
  • Santos-Dumont; a study in obsession. Wykeham, Peter. 1962
  • Man flies : the story of Alberto Santos-Dumont, master of the balloon, conqueror of the air / Nancy Winters. 1998.
  • Wings of madness : Alberto Santos-Dumont and the invention of flight / Paul Hoffman 2003

Are you interested in making a push on this? It will take some real work. Of course, anyone else watching who wants to help, please speak up. EEng 15:45, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Uh jeez what kind of shelf do you have? I've got nothing here. But anything I can do, sure, this person was very important. Herostratus (talk) 20:13, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've had these books for a year+ (libraries are very accommodating now -- they seem gratified anyone wants books at all these days) but I never have got up the fortitude to get started. Several of the above are full-length bios so it will take some investment of time. I thought that by semi-committing myself with someone else (i.e. you) that might get me off my butt. I'll be back in touch sometime in the next 1 to 10 months. Perhaps in the meantime you could poke around for additional images? EEng 20:22, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@EEng: I extracted a lot of images from the book My Airships for use in the Wikisource. Maybe it may help? Soon I should read again the book "Wings of Madness" to work in the Portuguese article. Erick Soares3 (talk) 15:27, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, those are great! One thing that would be nice to have, though, is a picture of the interior of his Petropolis house; we've already got an exterior shot. EEng 16:23, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@EEng: I found some interior shoots in Flickr, but they are copyrighted and this one in Creative Commons. I saw some and they show parts of the place and things from the exposition (like this 14-Bis replica). Sadly I don't live near the place to take some pictures. May you help with the transcription of "My Airships"? I bet that this book will help the article. Here's the Portuguese article about his house. I'm thinking about translating some related articles about him in English (already did this one). Erick Soares3 (talk) 22:24, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well maybe someone watching here will be inspired to take some photos on a visit someday. What do you mean by help with the transcription of "My Airships"? If you mean translation, unfortunately I don't speak Portuguese. The "SD explaining" moving pictures are wonderful to see. EEng 23:48, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@EEng:, I mean transcription! The book was first released in French and then in English during 1904 (only in the 80s in Portuguese) and you can work in the transcription here in Wikisource (only exist in Portuguese this 1918 book). You click in a page and then make the txt look exactly what is shown in the original archive in the right (if you need images, you just need to get them in the Commons). Is quite easy, but is a lot of pages (then, need a lot of work). There's already people working in the French and German versions. The "SD explaining" "video" are really wonderful! I recently found about this discovery and I'm impressed by the quality. What more wonderful things could be "lost"/stored in some dark corner in the world museums? Erick Soares3 (talk) 00:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note that there's a Gutenberg transcription already [3]. I look forward to working with you. EEng 00:29, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@EEng: I know, but for me the Wikisource helps more to insert the images in the right place. May you share the author page with anyone you know that likes the subject and may want to help? Anyway, this book should help to expand the page and if you're ok reading Google Translated text, the Portuguese one should be useful. I'm looking forward to working with you too! Erick Soares3 (talk) 01:13, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Good luck to the both of you. There seems to be very7 little about concerning his later life. And there is , I believe, nothing more in My Airships that can be added to the article.TheLongTone (talk) 13:24, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@TheLongTone:, there's this HBO miniseries that looks going to be very correct with his history. The episodes 5 and 6 should depict his later life and the episode 1 looked very realistic side with his biography. Erick Soares3 (talk) 19:33, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I've still got this article on my to-do list, but it's going to be some months at least before I can start. It doesn't look like the HBO series is available (yet) in the US, and I need to say in advance that though it looks quite good, we don't use productions like that as sources -- they take too many liberties. EEng 19:56, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
10 months and 1 ongoing pandemic later, the sources radiate mute rebuke from a bookshelf in my bedroom, and my good intentions remain. EEng 19:04, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@EEng:, I just sent a message in your talk page! Erick Soares3 (talk) 01:30, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nature – November 8, 1906, Page 35
The First “Manned” Flying Machine.
OCTOBER 23 of the present year will be remembered as a red-letter day in the history of flying machines, for it was on that day that the first flying machine, constructed on the “heavier than air” principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards.
In this his first successful flight with this machine. M. Santos Dumont is to be sincerely congratulated, for he has accomplished a performance which many workers in different parts of the world have been striving after for many years past and failed.
https://www.nature.com/articles/075035a0#:~:text=OCTOBER%2023%20of%20the%20present,itself%20by%20means%20of%20its 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:21, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New-York Tribune. [volume], November 20, 1906, Page 6, Image 6
SANTOS-DUMONT ANTICIPATED.
A fresh reason for determining the amount of glory due to Santos-Dumont for his recent flights with an aeroplane is afforded by an article in the latest number of "Nature" to reach this country. In that periodical it is asserted that on October 23 "the first flying machine, constructed on the 'heavier than air' principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards." While that statement is probably correct, the merit of the performance can be rightly estimated only by a comparison with what Wilbur and Orville Wright, of Dayton, Ohio, have been able to accomplish.
Santos-Dumont has been at work on the aeroplane only about a year. Most of his aeronautic experiments were conducted with an entirely different class of airship, the self-propelled balloon. On the other hand, the Wright brothers have been identified with the aeroplane for at least four or five years and perhaps longer. In a letter to the Aero Club of America, last winter they told the results attained by them up to the close of 1905. So startling were their claims that in France and Germany their story was received with much skepticism. With a creditable desire to vindicate the honor of the country, The Scientific American" addressed a circular letter of inquiry to seventeen persons who, according to the Wrights, had witnessed their aerial voyages. Twelve responses were received, one of them coming from Mr. Octave Chanute, the author of a well known work on aeronautic experiments and a man whose veracity no well informed foreigner or American would venture to question. The testimony of each of these witnesses was in substantial agreement with that of the others. Though now and then doubt would be expressed as to the exact date of a flight, the distance covered or some other detail, the general tenor of the letters seemed to put the truthfulness of the Wrights' statement quite beyond dispute.
It is worthy of note, in the interests of justice, that the Brazilian has made better provision for launching an aeroplane than the Wrights did last year. His machine, when on the ground, is supported by wheels. When the Wrights were ready to start, theirs was arranged crosswise on a pair of rails. To overcome the friction between these and the lower part of the frame, it was necessary to rely on external aid. Their aeroplane would not lift itself clear of the rails until it had been pushed forward twenty-five or thirty feet by hand, whereas the one which has just created a sensation in Europe will advance without assistance as soon as the propellers begin to revolve and will rise shortly afterward unhelped. Strictly speaking, then, "Nature" is quite right when it says that Santos-Dumont's machine is the first to raise Itself by means of its own power.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1906-11-20/ed-1/seq-6/#date1=1770&index=18&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:24, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Evening Star. [volume], December 09, 1906, Sunday star, Page 5, Image 53
The Sunday Star, Washington, D. C., December 09, 1906—Part 4.
(Copyright, 1906, by John Elfreth Watkins.)
SANTOS-DUMONT is the first man to have performed aerial flight with a self-propelled machine heavier than the air which it displaced. He has solved a problem which has caused inventive geniuses to burn the midnight oil and toss restlessly upon their couches since centuries before the dawn of the Christian era. During three millenniums or more ambitious men have broken their hearts and their heads seeking the great goal which this fearless Brazilian has won within the past few weeks.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1906-12-09/ed-1/seq-53/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=aerial+air+displaced+DUMONT+first+flight+have+heavier+machine+man+performed+propelled+SANTOS+SANTOS-DUMONT+self+self-propelled+than+which&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=SANTOS-DUMONT+is+the+first+man+to+have+performed+aerial+flight+with+a+self-propelled+machine+heavier+than+the+air+which+it+displaced&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:26, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Danville Intelligencer. [volume], January 04, 1907, Image 1
It remained for the world of 1906 to see the first mechanical navigation of the air from a standing start in a screw-propelled aeroplane. This was achieved by M. Santos-Dumont, at Paris, September 13. in his airship, the Bird of Prey.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86053369/1907-01-04/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=+aeroplanes+of+Santos+Dumont&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=7 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:27, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Morris Tribune. [volume], September 29, 1906, Image 7
KEEPING TAB ON THE WORLD
Concluded from page 2.
Santos Dumont's Mechanical Flight.
Although M. Santos-Dumont in his new aeroplane, the Bird of Prey, was able to traverse the air at Paris only a distance of thirty-seven feet before his ship came to the ground with a crash, nevertheless the test is regarded as one of great importance because it was the first time an airship had ever left the earth unaided.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn91059394/1906-09-29/ed-1/seq-7/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=15&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:28, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Flying Machines: practice and design – December, 1909, Page 54
Santos-Dumont, in November, 1906, with a petrol driven aeroplane machine, accomplished a short flight successfully, and so is probably the first man carried on a mechanically propelled flying machine. He accomplished a flight of 200 ft. at about 8 ft. from the ground, and secured the Archdeacon prize cup.
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark%3A%2F13960%2Ft7sn02698&seq=70 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:28, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Democratic Advocate. [volume], January 11, 1907, Image 1
Address By President Armstrong.
William H. Armstrong, former president of the Maryland State Turnpike Association, delivered the following address at the meeting held in Hagerstown on December 29:
“In the near future, there may float in the ocean of air above us, simulachres of those winged monsters of the paleozoic age, that lived by the shores of nameless lakes and left their ‘footprints in the sands of time.' These griffins of the sky will be the aeroplanes of Santos Dumont, and may be the evolution ary successors of the horse, the automobile and the trolley. They will carry their freight, in cars less costly, against a material less resistant than earth or water and be operated at an expense less than the vehicles now used by man.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85038292/1907-01-11/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplanes+Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=14&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=10 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:29, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Currency value[edit]

What was a million réis worth in November 1903, in, say 2022 USD? --84.70.235.158 (talk) 19:50, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is almost impossible to evaluate. Torimem (talk) 21:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What about 1903 USD? --84.70.235.158 (talk) 21:38, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On second thought, I think estimating it for 2022 USD is perfectly possible, but I wonder if it would fall under original research and I doubt it would be accurate. I've found a paper that puts the réis-dollar exchange rate in 1903 at 4140 réis per 1 dollar (4.14 mil réis/dollar) assuming I got it right. Torimem (talk) 23:41, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Even putting the OR concern (which real) aside, such calculations are extremely precarious, and the results almost impossible to interpret in any meaningful way. The 1,000,000/4140 ≈ 250 dollars in 1903, and inflating that to today gives about 6000 to 10,000 dollars depending on assumptions. That clearly makes no sense at all as the cost of building a pioneering airplane. EEng 01:55, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it's frustrating enough to give values in a currency that it's near-impossible to translate into modern currency, without using "conto de réis". I've substituted "million réis" as it's maybe a little less confusing. John (talk) 15:41, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Two examples from this article:
  • 12 million réis (how much Santos father sold his farm) = $5 million in 1895
  • Santos Dumont inheritance = $500,000

Thanks, Erick Soares3 (talk) 13:32, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Closed access article[edit]

If someone have access, the following work may be interesting for this biography: Oliveira, Patrick Luiz Sullivan de (2022). "Transforming a Brazilian Aeronaut into a French Hero: Celebrity, Spectacle, and Technological Cosmopolitanism in the Turn-of-the-Century Atlantic". Past and Present. 254 (1): 235–275. doi:10.1093/pastj/gtab011. Erick Soares3 (talk) 14:32, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I can get it, but you'll need to be patient. EEng 18:27, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
All right, thanks!! Erick Soares3 (talk) 19:53, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@EEng: it seems that they made it free for Christmas. I have just used it in both Wikis and is quite interesting. Erick Soares3 (talk) 13:33, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why does the article state that 'in Brazil' he is regarded as the first one ?[edit]

I mean, we all learnt everywhere in the world (but maybe in the US :D) that Santos-Dumont was the first one to fly a plane. It's the case in Brazil but also in France for instance. It sounds very weird and factually wrong to state that this is only the opinion of brazilian people, while it's a widely established fact... 94.252.121.252 (talk) 14:24, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are clearly deluded, or had a very flaky education. It is generally accepted that the Wright Brothers were the first to make a sustained controlled flight (In 1903), altho there are of course a few lost souls who believe the preposterous claims of Gustave Whitehead. Santos Dumont is a national hero in Brazil, where nationalist sentiment prevails.TheLongTone (talk) 11:30, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's a bit overboard, but the IP OP should see Claims to the first powered flight. EEng 12:01, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why should I suffer fools and trolls gladly? I think my comment was relatively restrained.TheLongTone (talk) 12:13, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Look, when it comes to not suffering fools gladly, I take a backseat to no one. But the OP's idea is not an uncommon one, and a factual correction is all that was needed. EEng 17:40, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think the phrase "I mean, we all learnt everywhere in the world" demonstrates that this IP from Luxembourg is a troll. To whom the proper answeris, I admit, a dignified silence.TheLongTone (talk) 14:43, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We are, all of us, to a large extent prisoners of what we've been taught, and that includes you. Being misinformed doesn't make him a troll. EEng 15:24, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh come off it. I would be most surprised if S-D was credited with the first flight in France and as for being victims of what we are taught- well, up to a point but some of us are capable of evaluating multiple sources and applying first-hand knowledge . In any case the original post was clearly frivolous at best and intended to disrupt. Enjoy the rest of your life.TheLongTone (talk) 13:56, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wow. Someone's sure go a vortex generator up their butt today. EEng 18:36, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Probably you.TheLongTone (talk) 15:56, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good one! EEng 19:05, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Democratic Advocate. [volume], January 11, 1907, Image 1
Address By President Armstrong.
William H. Armstrong, former president of the Maryland State Turnpike Association, delivered the following address at the meeting held in Hagerstown on December 29:
“In the near future, there may float in the ocean of air above us, simulachres of those winged monsters of the paleozoic age, that lived by the shores of nameless lakes and left their ‘footprints in the sands of time.' These griffins of the sky will be the aeroplanes of Santos Dumont, and may be the evolution ary successors of the horse, the automobile and the trolley. They will carry their freight, in cars less costly, against a material less resistant than earth or water and be operated at an expense less than the vehicles now used by man.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85038292/1907-01-11/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplanes+Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=14&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=10 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:46, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just a small comment on the "nationalist" topic: there are some English language sources which states that Brazil only cares about Santos Dumont due to the propaganda machine from Getulio Vargas or some faked nationalism (like it was "mythos" built years after Santos Dumont's life). This isn't right: he was already well regarded in his country since the late 19th century and was well seeing by Chile and the US (as example, note 8, page 16) in the early 20th century. Erick Soares3 (talk) 13:39, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Morris Tribune. [volume], September 29, 1906, Image 7
KEEPING TAB ON THE WORLD
Concluded from page 2.
Santos Dumont's Mechanical Flight.
Although M. Santos-Dumont in his new aeroplane, the Bird of Prey, was able to traverse the air at Paris only a distance of thirty-seven feet before his ship came to the ground with a crash, nevertheless the test is regarded as one of great importance because it was the first time an airship had ever left the earth unaided.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn91059394/1906-09-29/ed-1/seq-7/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=15&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:45, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nature – November 8, 1906, Page 35
The First “Manned” Flying Machine.
OCTOBER 23 of the present year will be remembered as a red-letter day in the history of flying machines, for it was on that day that the first flying machine, constructed on the “heavier than air” principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards.
In this his first successful flight with this machine. M. Santos Dumont is to be sincerely congratulated, for he has accomplished a performance which many workers in different parts of the world have been striving after for many years past and failed.
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New-York Tribune. [volume], November 20, 1906, Page 6, Image 6
SANTOS-DUMONT ANTICIPATED.
A fresh reason for determining the amount of glory due to Santos-Dumont for his recent flights with an aeroplane is afforded by an article in the latest number of "Nature" to reach this country. In that periodical it is asserted that on October 23 "the first flying machine, constructed on the 'heavier than air' principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards." While that statement is probably correct, the merit of the performance can be rightly estimated only by a comparison with what Wilbur and Orville Wright, of Dayton, Ohio, have been able to accomplish.
Santos-Dumont has been at work on the aeroplane only about a year. Most of his aeronautic experiments were conducted with an entirely different class of airship, the self-propelled balloon. On the other hand, the Wright brothers have been identified with the aeroplane for at least four or five years and perhaps longer. In a letter to the Aero Club of America, last winter they told the results attained by them up to the close of 1905. So startling were their claims that in France and Germany their story was received with much skepticism. With a creditable desire to vindicate the honor of the country, The Scientific American" addressed a circular letter of inquiry to seventeen persons who, according to the Wrights, had witnessed their aerial voyages. Twelve responses were received, one of them coming from Mr. Octave Chanute, the author of a well known work on aeronautic experiments and a man whose veracity no well informed foreigner or American would venture to question. The testimony of each of these witnesses was in substantial agreement with that of the others. Though now and then doubt would be expressed as to the exact date of a flight, the distance covered or some other detail, the general tenor of the letters seemed to put the truthfulness of the Wrights' statement quite beyond dispute.
It is worthy of note, in the interests of justice, that the Brazilian has made better provision for launching an aeroplane than the Wrights did last year. His machine, when on the ground, is supported by wheels. When the Wrights were ready to start, theirs was arranged crosswise on a pair of rails. To overcome the friction between these and the lower part of the frame, it was necessary to rely on external aid. Their aeroplane would not lift itself clear of the rails until it had been pushed forward twenty-five or thirty feet by hand, whereas the one which has just created a sensation in Europe will advance without assistance as soon as the propellers begin to revolve and will rise shortly afterward unhelped. Strictly speaking, then, "Nature" is quite right when it says that Santos-Dumont's machine is the first to raise Itself by means of its own power.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1906-11-20/ed-1/seq-6/#date1=1770&index=18&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:47, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Evening Star. [volume], December 09, 1906, Sunday star, Page 5, Image 53
The Sunday Star, Washington, D. C., December 09, 1906—Part 4.
(Copyright, 1906, by John Elfreth Watkins.)
SANTOS-DUMONT is the first man to have performed aerial flight with a self-propelled machine heavier than the air which it displaced. He has solved a problem which has caused inventive geniuses to burn the midnight oil and toss restlessly upon their couches since centuries before the dawn of the Christian era. During three millenniums or more ambitious men have broken their hearts and their heads seeking the great goal which this fearless Brazilian has won within the past few weeks.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1906-12-09/ed-1/seq-53/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=aerial+air+displaced+DUMONT+first+flight+have+heavier+machine+man+performed+propelled+SANTOS+SANTOS-DUMONT+self+self-propelled+than+which&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=SANTOS-DUMONT+is+the+first+man+to+have+performed+aerial+flight+with+a+self-propelled+machine+heavier+than+the+air+which+it+displaced&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:47, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Danville Intelligencer. [volume], January 04, 1907, Image 1
It remained for the world of 1906 to see the first mechanical navigation of the air from a standing start in a screw-propelled aeroplane. This was achieved by M. Santos-Dumont, at Paris, September 13. in his airship, the Bird of Prey.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86053369/1907-01-04/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=+aeroplanes+of+Santos+Dumont&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=7 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:48, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Flying Machines: practice and design – December, 1909, Page 54
Santos-Dumont, in November, 1906, with a petrol driven aeroplane machine, accomplished a short flight successfully, and so is probably the first man carried on a mechanically propelled flying machine. He accomplished a flight of 200 ft. at about 8 ft. from the ground, and secured the Archdeacon prize cup.
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Evening Star. [volume], February 05, 1911, Page 16, Image 40
HOW AVIATION STANDS TO-DAY
BY FRED T. JANE. Editor of "All the World's Airships"
Early Experiments
THE aëroplane is the antithesis of the dirigible. Unlike the latter, it makes no attempt to reproduce in air what a fish does in water. It seeks to do in the air what a bird does. At present it has advanced a step, in that its present practical exposition is no longer an imitation bird. It has got to adapting certain bird characteristics instead.
Twenty years ago any man who even thought that heavier than air flying might become possible was regarded as a lunatic. Ten years ago anyone who tried to make such a thing was regarded with gravest suspicion. Early experiments were regarded as pure folly.
Then came the boxkite, able to lift men. It was obvious that if an engine could be made to do the essential work of a boxkite string, a kite would need no string, and be a flying machine. Santos-Dumont, the first man to fly on a heavier than air machine, did so on a series of boxkites which subsequently developed into the well known Voisin type of aëroplane. Henry Farman in one of the Voisin machines proved that controlled flight in a heavier than air machine was possible.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1911-02-05/ed-1/seq-40/#date1=1770&index=14&rows=20&words=Dumont+first+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+first&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:51, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Democratic Advocate. [volume], January 11, 1907, Image 1
Address By President Armstrong.
William H. Armstrong, former president of the Maryland State Turnpike Association, delivered the following address at the meeting held in Hagerstown on December 29:
“In the near future, there may float in the ocean of air above us, simulachres of those winged monsters of the paleozoic age, that lived by the shores of nameless lakes and left their ‘footprints in the sands of time.' These griffins of the sky will be the aeroplanes of Santos Dumont, and may be the evolution ary successors of the horse, the automobile and the trolley. They will carry their freight, in cars less costly, against a material less resistant than earth or water and be operated at an expense less than the vehicles now used by man.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85038292/1907-01-11/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplanes+Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=14&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=10 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:51, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume], November 07, 1909, Sunday Edition, THIRD SECTION, Page 23, Image 23
Santos Dumont Was the First Real Air Passenger
Every great advance toward the conquest of the air, whether it be made by the Wright brothers, Curtiss, Bleriot, Latham or any of the host of others who are now directing their attention toward solving the problem, reflects some credit on Santos-Dumont.
He brought about the present extraordinary interest in aeronautics. His experiments, beginning a decade ago with a dirigible balloon and continuing to his present aeroplane of today, were the spur that started hundreds of experimenters.
The little Brazilian, resident of Paris for so long, and fitting so thoroughly into the life of the metropolis, has been believed by many to be a Frenchman, but he is a South American by birth, and his father is immensely wealthy.
It is a curious contradiction that from the coffee fields of Brazil rather than from the capitals of Europe should come the man who is really the inspiration of the last few years' wonderful advance in conquering the air.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85047084/1909-11-07/ed-1/seq-23/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=Brazil+coffee+contradiction+curious+fields+from&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=It+is+a+curious+contradiction+that+from+the+coffee+fields+of+Brazil+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Evening Statesman. [volume], September 29, 1909, Page Four, Image 4
SANTOS-DUMONT TO THE FRONT.
M. Santos-Dumont has emerged from his seclusion with an aeroplane of his own invention both smaller and swifter than those of his rivals. We are told also that its wings spread only a sixth as many square feet as does the machine of his best known rivals, the Wrights; with its one passenger on board it weighs but 240 pounds, and in its first public flights it made a speed of fifty-five miles an hour. Truly this is something worth waiting for, and we now understand what Santos-Dumont was doing in the time when he was silent. It is almost inconceivable that an art that is only in its infancy should bring such remarkable results so soon. It seems but yesterday that the first announcement was made to the world that a heavier-than-air machine actually flew. Yet Santos-Dumont now comes forward with a small and compact little craft weighing, with him on board only 260 pounds and accomplishing the astonishing speed of 55 miles an hour.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085421/1909-09-29/ed-1/seq-4/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=announcement+first+heavier+made+world&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=the+first+announcement+was+made+to+the+world+that+a+heavier&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:54, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Intermountain Catholic., October 23, 1909, Page 3, Image 3
Santos Dumont First Flyer.
(From the New York Press.)
Pan-America rejoices that our gallant premier aviator, Santos Dumont, again strides the blast to the tune of 55 miles the hour. He is a rara avis; indeed, the first who flew in public and showed an astounded world the miracle of a man's flight. He is a whole world prodigy, and his name should be fastened to a star or bestowed upon the first convenient coming comet. Brazil may cut the name of Dumont in letters 50 feet high across the face of the peak of the Sugar Loaf mountain at the entrance to the harbor of Rio de Janeiro as a monument of Miltonic majesty to the Brazilian eagle. His father, old man Dumont, a Frenchman, was the pioneer coffee man in the big Santos district of Brazil. He sold out his plantation a number of years ago to a syndicate. Two brothers are quiet bankers in the city of San maulo, Brazil. Santos was believed for a long time to be a mere nutty spendthrift.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn93062856/1909-10-23/ed-1/seq-3/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=astounded+first+flew+public+showed+who&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=the+first+who+flew+in+public+and+showed+an+astounded+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:55, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Newark Evening Star and Newark advertiser. [volume], February 08, 1915, HOME EDITION, Page 8, Image 8
AMERICA GETS A FAMOUS AIRMAN.
It is good news for the interests of aviation in this country that Santos-Dumont, the famous Brazilian airman, is to make the United States his permanent home. This, for America, is one of the fortunate results of the war, as Santos-Dumont in recent years has been devoting himself to the development of aviation in France.
Santos-Dumont years ago startled the world as a pioneer navigator of the dirigible balloon, and has the distinction of the first public flight in an aeroplane. He will be an immense help to popularizing aviation in the United States. If the nation has a few thousand citizen aviators it will be an immensely valuable aeronautic reserve.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn91064011/1915-02-08/ed-1/seq-8/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=country+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=6&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos-Dumont+This+Country&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=5 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:56, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Evening Star. [volume], January 09, 1916, Page 4, Image 22
The Sunday Star, Washington, D. C., January 9, 1916-Part 2.
THE WAR'S GEOGRAPHICAL LESSONS
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On the oriental front it was the 3.000 automobiles of Gen. Hindenburg which changed the issue of the furious battle of Bzoura, also called the battle of Lodz. Thus the automobile is another lesson of the war of which the Germans believed that they alone possessed the secret under the head of "mobel machen." Von Hindenburg's Automobiles.
The actual war has become a subject of incessant disquietude and tension on the part of neutral states which, notwithstanding their good intentions in the matter of their neutrality, are attacked and their rights as neutrals violated. This disquietude has proved a latent factor certainly in the meeting at Washington these days of the Pan-America Scientific Congress. The congress has discussed the ways and means to a closer union for the development of their commerce and their mutual protection, bearing in mind the semiofficial threat of a distinguished military visitor two years before the war.
There was nothing more natural than that aviation from a scientific and economical point of view should be a special subject of discussion by this congress of pan-Americans, all the more that there was present as a member of the congress the man who is considered as the pioneer and father of modern aviation, M. Alberto Santos-Dumont.
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https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1916-01-09/ed-1/seq-22/#date1=1770&index=2&rows=20&words=aviation+father+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=%22father+of+aviation%22+santos&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:58, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
El Imparcial., San Juan, Puerto Rico, May 09, 1919, Page 3.
ENGLISH SECTION
OPINIONS OF MY OWN
BY Claudio Capó.
ON AIR NAVIGATION
Air navigation, which is in its infancy, has progressed wonderfully since it first became a practical proposition. Of course, man must have thought of the convenience of being able to fly, since the very moment he perceived other animals going through space. But is is only within the present generation that real progress has been made in the science of aerial navigation, and at the rate it goes we should not be at all surprised if one of these days a trip to the Moon were seriously considered.
If we remember right, Santos Dumont was the first man to flew in a heavier-than-air machine. The Wright Brothers are spoken of in the United States as the first inventors to make of the art a practical proposition. Of the lighter-than-air devices, the most famous are those constructed by Count Zeppelin.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88073003/1919-05-09/ed-1/seq-3/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=Dumont+first+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=13&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+first&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2
July 20, 1969 = Apollo 11 = Moon
One Giant Leap For Mankind
Santos Dumont (20 July, 1873 – 23 July, 1932)
July 20, 1969
July 20, 1873
International Astronomical Union – Santos-Dumont (crater)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santos-Dumont_(crater)
Santos-Dumont propeller
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Reformador – 1883 Agosto 1 – Página 4
Manifestação espontanea do Espirito de Estevam Montgolfier, recebida em Silveiras, por Ernesto Castro, em 30 de Julho de 1876.
Vencer o espaço com a velocidade de uma bala de artilharia, em um motor que sirva para conduzir o homem; eis o grande problema que será resolvido dentro de pouco tempo.
Essa machina poderosa de conducção, não ha de ser uma utopia ; não.
O missionario qne traz esse aperfeiçoamento á Terra, já se acha entre vós.
O progresso da viação aéria, que tantos proselytos tem achado e tantas victimas ha feito, não está, portanto, longe de realisar-se.
O aperfeiçoamento de qualquer sciencia depende do tempo e do estado da humanidade para recebel-o.
A locomotiva, esse gigante que avassalla os desertos e vence as distancias, será um insignificante invento ante o passaro colossal, que, qual condor dos Andes, percorrerá o espaço, conduzindo em suas soberbas azas, os homens de varios continentes.
Os balões, meros exploradores e percussores da admiravel invenção, nada, pois, serão perante o bello e portentoso passaro mechanico.
Esse Deus de bondade e de misericordia, que nada concede, antes da hora marcada, deixa primeiramente que seus filhos trabalhem em procura da sabedoria, e depois que elles se têm esforçado em descobrir a verdade, ahi então lhes envia um raio de sua divina luz.
Já vêm, ó mortaes, que a navegação aéria não será um sonho, nâo ; mas sim uma brilhante realidade.
O tempo, que vem proximo, vos dará o conhecimento desse estupendo motor.
Brazil, tu que foste o berço dessa grande descuberta, serás em breve o paiz escolhído para demonstrar a força dessa grandiosa machina aéria.
Eis o prognostico que vos dou, oh brazileiros.
ESTEVAM MONTGOLFIER.
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Los Angeles Herald. [microfilm reel], August 08, 1909, Page 11, Image 35
EDITOR OF AERONAUTICS SEES LITTLE PROGRESS
Estimates Enthusiasm Flies Faster That Actual Situation, as Only Few Men Are Flying
Ernest Larue Jones, the editor of Aeronautics, thinks that progress in aviation is slow, in spite of the attention recently given it. "Waive for the moment all this flying enthusiasm," he says in the August Aeronautics, "and consider just what progress has really been made. Thouqgh the Wrights really began successful flying with their flights of 1903, the popular belief and interest in the art dates with the little jump of Santos-Dumont in the fall of 1906, when the world went wild over his grasshopper-hop as compared to the bird-flights of the Wrights three years before. Since 1906 how many men have really flown? Those who are known are only Farman, Delagrange, Cody, Moore-Brabazon, Bleriot and now Latham and Count Lambert in Europe; Curtiss, McCurdy, Selfridge, F. W. Baldwin and the Wrights in America. In Europe there are one or two others who have made short flights, and then, too, Calderara, a Wright pupil, in Italy. At the moment there are only the Wrights, Latham and Bleriot doing any real flying.
"This does not seem much like progress in these three years and more. How far did the automobile advance in three years? Somewhat faster than this, indeed. One's enthusiasm easily flies away.
"The prizes offered abroad have caused an enormous amount of experimental work, and it is to be regretted that such encouragement is not in America."
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85042462/1909-08-08/ed-1/seq-35/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=1906+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=3&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+1906&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 19:19, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Evening Star. [volume], June 09, 1933, Page C-7, Image 37
Conquest of the Air.
Speed and Safety.
DURING the years from 1906 to 1921 almost all speed records for airplanes were made by Frenchmen; but aviators of other countries — England, Italy and the United States—have held the records since 1922.
In 1906 Santos Dumont piloted an airplane at the record speed of 25 miles per hour. Compare that with the speed made last year by the Italian aviator, Neri—430 miles an hour! That is more than 7 miles per minute.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1933-06-09/ed-1/seq-37/#date1=1770&index=18&rows=20&words=1906+Dumont+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+1906&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
Roanoke Rapids Herald. [volume], May 02, 1946, SECTION C, Page 3, Image 23
AIR RECORDS WILL BE BROKEN
Many of the 179 official world nd international air records which were set up between 1906 when Santos Dumont established a speed of 25 miles per hour in the air, and 1940 when the war ended such attempts, will go by the board this year. The 1940 records were divided among some 50 classifications and were held by the airmen of 9 countries.  
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/2017236974/1946-05-02/ed-1/seq-23/#date1=1770&index=2&rows=20&words=1906+Dumont+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=In+1906+Santos+Dumont+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
The Bismarck Tribune. [volume], November 01, 1934, Image 8
First air speed record was established in 1906 by Santos Dumont of France, who flew 25 miles an hour.
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The Evening Star. [volume], September 10, 1908, Image 1
Former Aeroplane Records.
The best aeroplane record (unofficial) prior to yesterday's flights by Mr. Orville Wright was made by Mr. Wilbur Wright near Dayton, Ohio, October 5, 1905, when he flew 24 1-5 miles in 38 minutes and 20 seconds. Other official records are:
October 23, 1906 M. Santos Dumont. 27.34 yards, at Bagatelle, France.
November 12. 1906 M. Santos Dumont, 240.5 yards, at Bagatelle, France.
October 26. 1907 Mr. Henry Farman, 843 yards, at Issy-les-Moulineaux.
January 11. 1908 Mr. Henry Farman, 1,200 yards in 1 minute and 55 seconds.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1908-09-10/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&index=15&rows=20&words=1906+Dumont+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=In+1906+Santos+Dumont+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
Associated Press – November 21, 2007
Alberto Santos Dumont: The first person to officially fly more than 100metres. (July 8, 1991)
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Flying Machines: practice and design – December, 1909, Page 54
Santos-Dumont, in November, 1906, with a petrol driven aeroplane machine, accomplished a short flight successfully, and so is probably the first man carried on a mechanically propelled flying machine. He accomplished a flight of 200 ft. at about 8 ft. from the ground, and secured the Archdeacon prize cup.
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The Democratic Advocate. [volume], January 11, 1907, Image 1
Address By President Armstrong.
William H. Armstrong, former president of the Maryland State Turnpike Association, delivered the following address at the meeting held in Hagerstown on December 29:
“In the near future, there may float in the ocean of air above us, simulachres of those winged monsters of the paleozoic age, that lived by the shores of nameless lakes and left their ‘footprints in the sands of time.' These griffins of the sky will be the aeroplanes of Santos Dumont, and may be the evolution ary successors of the horse, the automobile and the trolley. They will carry their freight, in cars less costly, against a material less resistant than earth or water and be operated at an expense less than the vehicles now used by man.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85038292/1907-01-11/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplanes+Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=14&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=10 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:43, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have great regard for Santos Dumont; I just believe that the Wrights had a better aircraft and flew it before him.TheLongTone (talk) 13:58, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
All right! I just wanted to state it since some people may have the wrong impression. In Brazil, there are some researchers who explore what is the definition of an "airplane" (going from glider --> motoglider ---> airplane (this book explores this subject, but its main focus is on Santos Dumont as a researcher/innovator)) and this guy even did an expensive and long research on historical documents (just to show to what extent this subject goes in Brazil) while exploring this subject (is almost 3 hours long). Erick Soares3 (talk) 22:12, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My plan isn't to start another discussion, but to just put some interesting links here (I don't know how much useful the video would be for the Wikipedia here or anywhere else, but I have already used the biographical material from the book in the bio and some related articles). Erick Soares3 (talk) 22:15, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Democratic Advocate. [volume], January 11, 1907, Image 1
Address By President Armstrong.
William H. Armstrong, former president of the Maryland State Turnpike Association, delivered the following address at the meeting held in Hagerstown on December 29:
“In the near future, there may float in the ocean of air above us, simulachres of those winged monsters of the paleozoic age, that lived by the shores of nameless lakes and left their ‘footprints in the sands of time.' These griffins of the sky will be the aeroplanes of Santos Dumont, and may be the evolution ary successors of the horse, the automobile and the trolley. They will carry their freight, in cars less costly, against a material less resistant than earth or water and be operated at an expense less than the vehicles now used by man.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85038292/1907-01-11/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplanes+Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=14&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=10 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 18:41, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Morris Tribune. [volume], September 29, 1906, Image 7
KEEPING TAB ON THE WORLD
Concluded from page 2.
Santos Dumont's Mechanical Flight.
Although M. Santos-Dumont in his new aeroplane, the Bird of Prey, was able to traverse the air at Paris only a distance of thirty-seven feet before his ship came to the ground with a crash, nevertheless the test is regarded as one of great importance because it was the first time an airship had ever left the earth unaided.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn91059394/1906-09-29/ed-1/seq-7/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=15&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:35, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nature – November 8, 1906, Page 35
The First “Manned” Flying Machine.
OCTOBER 23 of the present year will be remembered as a red-letter day in the history of flying machines, for it was on that day that the first flying machine, constructed on the “heavier than air” principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards.
In this his first successful flight with this machine. M. Santos Dumont is to be sincerely congratulated, for he has accomplished a performance which many workers in different parts of the world have been striving after for many years past and failed.
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New-York Tribune. [volume], November 20, 1906, Page 6, Image 6
SANTOS-DUMONT ANTICIPATED.
A fresh reason for determining the amount of glory due to Santos-Dumont for his recent flights with an aeroplane is afforded by an article in the latest number of "Nature" to reach this country. In that periodical it is asserted that on October 23 "the first flying machine, constructed on the 'heavier than air' principle, successfully raised itself and its driver from the ground several feet, and transported itself by means of its own power over a distance of eighty yards." While that statement is probably correct, the merit of the performance can be rightly estimated only by a comparison with what Wilbur and Orville Wright, of Dayton, Ohio, have been able to accomplish.
Santos-Dumont has been at work on the aeroplane only about a year. Most of his aeronautic experiments were conducted with an entirely different class of airship, the self-propelled balloon. On the other hand, the Wright brothers have been identified with the aeroplane for at least four or five years and perhaps longer. In a letter to the Aero Club of America, last winter they told the results attained by them up to the close of 1905. So startling were their claims that in France and Germany their story was received with much skepticism. With a creditable desire to vindicate the honor of the country, The Scientific American" addressed a circular letter of inquiry to seventeen persons who, according to the Wrights, had witnessed their aerial voyages. Twelve responses were received, one of them coming from Mr. Octave Chanute, the author of a well known work on aeronautic experiments and a man whose veracity no well informed foreigner or American would venture to question. The testimony of each of these witnesses was in substantial agreement with that of the others. Though now and then doubt would be expressed as to the exact date of a flight, the distance covered or some other detail, the general tenor of the letters seemed to put the truthfulness of the Wrights' statement quite beyond dispute.
It is worthy of note, in the interests of justice, that the Brazilian has made better provision for launching an aeroplane than the Wrights did last year. His machine, when on the ground, is supported by wheels. When the Wrights were ready to start, theirs was arranged crosswise on a pair of rails. To overcome the friction between these and the lower part of the frame, it was necessary to rely on external aid. Their aeroplane would not lift itself clear of the rails until it had been pushed forward twenty-five or thirty feet by hand, whereas the one which has just created a sensation in Europe will advance without assistance as soon as the propellers begin to revolve and will rise shortly afterward unhelped. Strictly speaking, then, "Nature" is quite right when it says that Santos-Dumont's machine is the first to raise Itself by means of its own power.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1906-11-20/ed-1/seq-6/#date1=1770&index=18&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=santos+dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Evening Star. [volume], December 09, 1906, Sunday star, Page 5, Image 53
The Sunday Star, Washington, D. C., December 09, 1906—Part 4.
(Copyright, 1906, by John Elfreth Watkins.)
SANTOS-DUMONT is the first man to have performed aerial flight with a self-propelled machine heavier than the air which it displaced. He has solved a problem which has caused inventive geniuses to burn the midnight oil and toss restlessly upon their couches since centuries before the dawn of the Christian era. During three millenniums or more ambitious men have broken their hearts and their heads seeking the great goal which this fearless Brazilian has won within the past few weeks.
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Danville Intelligencer. [volume], January 04, 1907, Image 1
It remained for the world of 1906 to see the first mechanical navigation of the air from a standing start in a screw-propelled aeroplane. This was achieved by M. Santos-Dumont, at Paris, September 13. in his airship, the Bird of Prey.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86053369/1907-01-04/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplane+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=+aeroplanes+of+Santos+Dumont&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=7 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 17:38, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Democratic Advocate. [volume], January 11, 1907, Image 1
Address By President Armstrong.
William H. Armstrong, former president of the Maryland State Turnpike Association, delivered the following address at the meeting held in Hagerstown on December 29:
“In the near future, there may float in the ocean of air above us, simulachres of those winged monsters of the paleozoic age, that lived by the shores of nameless lakes and left their ‘footprints in the sands of time.' These griffins of the sky will be the aeroplanes of Santos Dumont, and may be the evolution ary successors of the horse, the automobile and the trolley. They will carry their freight, in cars less costly, against a material less resistant than earth or water and be operated at an expense less than the vehicles now used by man.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85038292/1907-01-11/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=aeroplanes+Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=14&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Dumont+aeroplane&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=10 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 19:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Evening Star. [volume], February 05, 1911, Page 16, Image 40
HOW AVIATION STANDS TO-DAY
BY FRED T. JANE. Editor of "All the World's Airships"
Early Experiments
THE aëroplane is the antithesis of the dirigible. Unlike the latter, it makes no attempt to reproduce in air what a fish does in water. It seeks to do in the air what a bird does. At present it has advanced a step, in that its present practical exposition is no longer an imitation bird. It has got to adapting certain bird characteristics instead.
Twenty years ago any man who even thought that heavier than air flying might become possible was regarded as a lunatic. Ten years ago anyone who tried to make such a thing was regarded with gravest suspicion. Early experiments were regarded as pure folly.
Then came the boxkite, able to lift men. It was obvious that if an engine could be made to do the essential work of a boxkite string, a kite would need no string, and be a flying machine. Santos-Dumont, the first man to fly on a heavier than air machine, did so on a series of boxkites which subsequently developed into the well known Voisin type of aëroplane. Henry Farman in one of the Voisin machines proved that controlled flight in a heavier than air machine was possible.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1911-02-05/ed-1/seq-40/#date1=1770&index=14&rows=20&words=Dumont+first+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+first&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 19:09, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Pacific commercial advertiser. [volume], November 07, 1909, Sunday Edition, THIRD SECTION, Page 23, Image 23
Santos Dumont Was the First Real Air Passenger
Every great advance toward the conquest of the air, whether it be made by the Wright brothers, Curtiss, Bleriot, Latham or any of the host of others who are now directing their attention toward solving the problem, reflects some credit on Santos-Dumont.
He brought about the present extraordinary interest in aeronautics. His experiments, beginning a decade ago with a dirigible balloon and continuing to his present aeroplane of today, were the spur that started hundreds of experimenters.
The little Brazilian, resident of Paris for so long, and fitting so thoroughly into the life of the metropolis, has been believed by many to be a Frenchman, but he is a South American by birth, and his father is immensely wealthy.
It is a curious contradiction that from the coffee fields of Brazil rather than from the capitals of Europe should come the man who is really the inspiration of the last few years' wonderful advance in conquering the air.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85047084/1909-11-07/ed-1/seq-23/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=Brazil+coffee+contradiction+curious+fields+from&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=It+is+a+curious+contradiction+that+from+the+coffee+fields+of+Brazil+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 19:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Evening Statesman. [volume], September 29, 1909, Page Four, Image 4
SANTOS-DUMONT TO THE FRONT.
M. Santos-Dumont has emerged from his seclusion with an aeroplane of his own invention both smaller and swifter than those of his rivals. We are told also that its wings spread only a sixth as many square feet as does the machine of his best known rivals, the Wrights; with its one passenger on board it weighs but 240 pounds, and in its first public flights it made a speed of fifty-five miles an hour. Truly this is something worth waiting for, and we now understand what Santos-Dumont was doing in the time when he was silent. It is almost inconceivable that an art that is only in its infancy should bring such remarkable results so soon. It seems but yesterday that the first announcement was made to the world that a heavier-than-air machine actually flew. Yet Santos-Dumont now comes forward with a small and compact little craft weighing, with him on board only 260 pounds and accomplishing the astonishing speed of 55 miles an hour.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085421/1909-09-29/ed-1/seq-4/#date1=1770&index=0&rows=20&words=announcement+first+heavier+made+world&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=the+first+announcement+was+made+to+the+world+that+a+heavier&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 19:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Intermountain Catholic., October 23, 1909, Page 3, Image 3
Santos Dumont First Flyer.
(From the New York Press.)
Pan-America rejoices that our gallant premier aviator, Santos Dumont, again strides the blast to the tune of 55 miles the hour. He is a rara avis; indeed, the first who flew in public and showed an astounded world the miracle of a man's flight. He is a whole world prodigy, and his name should be fastened to a star or bestowed upon the first convenient coming comet. Brazil may cut the name of Dumont in letters 50 feet high across the face of the peak of the Sugar Loaf mountain at the entrance to the harbor of Rio de Janeiro as a monument of Miltonic majesty to the Brazilian eagle. His father, old man Dumont, a Frenchman, was the pioneer coffee man in the big Santos district of Brazil. He sold out his plantation a number of years ago to a syndicate. Two brothers are quiet bankers in the city of San maulo, Brazil. Santos was believed for a long time to be a mere nutty spendthrift.
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Newark Evening Star and Newark advertiser. [volume], February 08, 1915, HOME EDITION, Page 8, Image 8
AMERICA GETS A FAMOUS AIRMAN.
It is good news for the interests of aviation in this country that Santos-Dumont, the famous Brazilian airman, is to make the United States his permanent home. This, for America, is one of the fortunate results of the war, as Santos-Dumont in recent years has been devoting himself to the development of aviation in France.
Santos-Dumont years ago startled the world as a pioneer navigator of the dirigible balloon, and has the distinction of the first public flight in an aeroplane. He will be an immense help to popularizing aviation in the United States. If the nation has a few thousand citizen aviators it will be an immensely valuable aeronautic reserve.
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Evening Star. [volume], January 09, 1916, Page 4, Image 22
The Sunday Star, Washington, D. C., January 9, 1916-Part 2.
THE WAR'S GEOGRAPHICAL LESSONS
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On the oriental front it was the 3.000 automobiles of Gen. Hindenburg which changed the issue of the furious battle of Bzoura, also called the battle of Lodz. Thus the automobile is another lesson of the war of which the Germans believed that they alone possessed the secret under the head of "mobel machen." Von Hindenburg's Automobiles.
The actual war has become a subject of incessant disquietude and tension on the part of neutral states which, notwithstanding their good intentions in the matter of their neutrality, are attacked and their rights as neutrals violated. This disquietude has proved a latent factor certainly in the meeting at Washington these days of the Pan-America Scientific Congress. The congress has discussed the ways and means to a closer union for the development of their commerce and their mutual protection, bearing in mind the semiofficial threat of a distinguished military visitor two years before the war.
There was nothing more natural than that aviation from a scientific and economical point of view should be a special subject of discussion by this congress of pan-Americans, all the more that there was present as a member of the congress the man who is considered as the pioneer and father of modern aviation, M. Alberto Santos-Dumont.
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El Imparcial., San Juan, Puerto Rico, May 09, 1919, Page 3.
ENGLISH SECTION
OPINIONS OF MY OWN
BY Claudio Capó.
ON AIR NAVIGATION
Air navigation, which is in its infancy, has progressed wonderfully since it first became a practical proposition. Of course, man must have thought of the convenience of being able to fly, since the very moment he perceived other animals going through space. But is is only within the present generation that real progress has been made in the science of aerial navigation, and at the rate it goes we should not be at all surprised if one of these days a trip to the Moon were seriously considered.
If we remember right, Santos Dumont was the first man to flew in a heavier-than-air machine. The Wright Brothers are spoken of in the United States as the first inventors to make of the art a practical proposition. Of the lighter-than-air devices, the most famous are those constructed by Count Zeppelin.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88073003/1919-05-09/ed-1/seq-3/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=Dumont+first+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=13&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+first&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2
July 20, 1969 = Apollo 11 = Moon
One Giant Leap For Mankind
Santos Dumont (20 July, 1873 – 23 July, 1932)
July 20, 1969
July 20, 1873
International Astronomical Union – Santos-Dumont (crater)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santos-Dumont_(crater)
Santos-Dumont propeller
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Los Angeles Herald. [microfilm reel], August 08, 1909, Page 11, Image 35
EDITOR OF AERONAUTICS SEES LITTLE PROGRESS
Estimates Enthusiasm Flies Faster That Actual Situation, as Only Few Men Are Flying
Ernest Larue Jones, the editor of Aeronautics, thinks that progress in aviation is slow, in spite of the attention recently given it. "Waive for the moment all this flying enthusiasm," he says in the August Aeronautics, "and consider just what progress has really been made. Thouqgh the Wrights really began successful flying with their flights of 1903, the popular belief and interest in the art dates with the little jump of Santos-Dumont in the fall of 1906, when the world went wild over his grasshopper-hop as compared to the bird-flights of the Wrights three years before. Since 1906 how many men have really flown? Those who are known are only Farman, Delagrange, Cody, Moore-Brabazon, Bleriot and now Latham and Count Lambert in Europe; Curtiss, McCurdy, Selfridge, F. W. Baldwin and the Wrights in America. In Europe there are one or two others who have made short flights, and then, too, Calderara, a Wright pupil, in Italy. At the moment there are only the Wrights, Latham and Bleriot doing any real flying.
"This does not seem much like progress in these three years and more. How far did the automobile advance in three years? Somewhat faster than this, indeed. One's enthusiasm easily flies away.
"The prizes offered abroad have caused an enormous amount of experimental work, and it is to be regretted that such encouragement is not in America."
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85042462/1909-08-08/ed-1/seq-35/#date1=1770&sort=relevance&rows=20&words=1906+Dumont+Santos+Santos-Dumont&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=3&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+1906&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=2 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 19:18, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Evening Star. [volume], June 09, 1933, Page C-7, Image 37
Conquest of the Air.
Speed and Safety.
DURING the years from 1906 to 1921 almost all speed records for airplanes were made by Frenchmen; but aviators of other countries — England, Italy and the United States—have held the records since 1922.
In 1906 Santos Dumont piloted an airplane at the record speed of 25 miles per hour. Compare that with the speed made last year by the Italian aviator, Neri—430 miles an hour! That is more than 7 miles per minute.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1933-06-09/ed-1/seq-37/#date1=1770&index=18&rows=20&words=1906+Dumont+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=Santos+Dumont+1906&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
Roanoke Rapids Herald. [volume], May 02, 1946, SECTION C, Page 3, Image 23
AIR RECORDS WILL BE BROKEN
Many of the 179 official world nd international air records which were set up between 1906 when Santos Dumont established a speed of 25 miles per hour in the air, and 1940 when the war ended such attempts, will go by the board this year. The 1940 records were divided among some 50 classifications and were held by the airmen of 9 countries.  
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/2017236974/1946-05-02/ed-1/seq-23/#date1=1770&index=2&rows=20&words=1906+Dumont+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=In+1906+Santos+Dumont+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
The Bismarck Tribune. [volume], November 01, 1934, Image 8
First air speed record was established in 1906 by Santos Dumont of France, who flew 25 miles an hour.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn85042243/1934-11-01/ed-1/seq-8/#date1=1770&index=17&rows=20&words=1906+Dumont+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=In+1906+Santos+Dumont+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
The Evening Star. [volume], September 10, 1908, Image 1
Former Aeroplane Records.
The best aeroplane record (unofficial) prior to yesterday's flights by Mr. Orville Wright was made by Mr. Wilbur Wright near Dayton, Ohio, October 5, 1905, when he flew 24 1-5 miles in 38 minutes and 20 seconds. Other official records are:
October 23, 1906 M. Santos Dumont. 27.34 yards, at Bagatelle, France.
November 12. 1906 M. Santos Dumont, 240.5 yards, at Bagatelle, France.
October 26. 1907 Mr. Henry Farman, 843 yards, at Issy-les-Moulineaux.
January 11. 1908 Mr. Henry Farman, 1,200 yards in 1 minute and 55 seconds.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83045462/1908-09-10/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1770&index=15&rows=20&words=1906+Dumont+Santos&searchType=basic&sequence=0&state=&date2=1963&proxtext=In+1906+Santos+Dumont+&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
Associated Press – November 21, 2007
Alberto Santos Dumont: The first person to officially fly more than 100metres. (July 8, 1991)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e35quRTI8Uw 2001:1284:F514:3D8A:1A3:45B9:B136:8FBF (talk) 19:22, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Descendants ?[edit]

The article says that he left no descendants, but later a photo is captioned "Alexandre and Marcos Villares, descendants of Santos-Dumont ...". I guess they are descendants of a sister ? (Two of the sisters are mentioned as named Vilares, one l.) -- Beardo (talk) 14:37, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed [4]. EEng 15:18, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Santos Dumont at the Iguazu Falls[edit]

It is unlikely that this book may have something substantial for his bio (but may have stuff for the Iguazu Falls page), but I'm still sharing it here since the publisher has released it for free:

Erick Soares3 (talk) 15:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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