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Dialect & Accent[edit]
"Locals pronounce "Birmingham" as "Brummajem"." - I live in the Black Country and can assure you that no-one calls Birmingham that. 'Brummagem' is an archaic name for Birmingham, but in 30 years I've heard no-one, no matter how old & deep-dialect speaker, call it that. 'Birningham' is quite common though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.224.102.192 (talk) 11:13, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
- I've called it Brummajum most my life 93.129.28.68 (talk) 09:24, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
I’m not sure what “Liverpool-centric TV shows in the 1900s” is meant to mean - possibly Bread and Boys from the Blackstuff in the 1980s. Anyway, my Birmingham-born Dad would greet his brothers with “Ey-up ah kid” in the 1960s, probably dating back to their ‘30s childhood, so it might be a Brummie import but not a Liverpool one.Matruman (talk) 13:48, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
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Black Country Geopark[edit]
I've added some lines on the aspiring Black Country Geopark at the end of the 'Economy' section since the geopark designation is primarily one associated with developing the tourism economy, though the detail could go in various places in the article really as it brings together different aspects of the area's geology and industrial/cultural heritage. cheers Geopersona (talk) 19:15, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
Black Country may not have included Dudley[edit]
"implying that the original Black Country may not have included Dudley which was in Worcestershire" this is speculation (WP:OR) and probably WP:POINTY. As any one familiar with the old county boarders knows Dudley was an island of Worcestershire in Staffordshire (see the maps in Evolution of Worcestershire county boundaries since 1844#Exclaves and enclaves) so as he was writing a novel he maynot have wished to go into the minutiae of county enclaves in the an introcuction in a novel. Further the Gresley quote can be read as the story takes place in that part of the Black Country in Staffordshire and that does not mean that some of the Black Country did not extend to parts of Worcestershire.
The novel starts on page one with:
On the border of the agricultural part of Staffordshire, just before you enter the dismal region of mines and forges, commonly called the "Black Country", stands the pretty village of Oakthorpe.
On page 26 of the novel Emily, who is visiting Oakthorpe is concerned that the red glow that can be seen in the evening on the horizon are hay ricks burning. Mr Evered explains that it is the glow from furnaces and suggests a visit to Dudley Castle to take in the sights.
- Gresley, William (1846). Colton Green, a tale of the black country. J. Masters. p. 26.
So I am removing the speculation. -- PBS (talk) 19:22, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Dialect and Accent[edit]
Many of the statements about Black Country accent are either incorrect or exaggerated as most people in the Black Country do not have extreme ‘confusing’ dialects 82.0.182.197 (talk) 22:08, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure, I'm from Birmingham and though anecdotes aren't exactly evidence nobody in Black Country I've met speaks in this strange semi-English way suggested by the article. The article does say this is the "traditional Black Country dialect" but I assume it was written by some Londoner... 2A02:C7F:2C25:8C00:50E3:84D3:ACB3:9025 (talk) 23:09, 10 February 2023 (UTC)