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Robert Stroud was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
September 4, 2013	Good article nominee	Listed
September 9, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted

Current status: Delisted good article

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Characterizations Based on Fictional Writings[edit]

In the penultimate section "Truth versus Fiction" is the quote "...Stroud was also known to write pornographic fiction, much of it perversely involving children. These surviving documents point to the fact that Stroud was at least a latent pedophile...." I'm not comfortable characterizing someone based on their fictional writings. I doubt that horror writers, for example, are especially violent or morbid. Moreover, in the previous sentence is "...much of it perversely involving children." The term "perversely" seems too opinionated, or maybe I'm thinking too journalistically.

To whomever maintains this article, I'd recommend excising the entire sentence containing the first quote and the word "perversely" from the second. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.155.49.130 (talk) 17:21, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

On 6 October 2005, this edit toned down the text you quote, while a second edit removed the speculative second sentence. Over time, the text you quote, along with the whole section, has been excised from the article. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 01:14, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Destiny of O'Brien[edit]

Does the literature on Stroud contain any information on what happened to Kitty O'Brien after his arrest? When did she die?

GA Reassessment[edit]

Robert Stroud[edit]

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Result: Delisted per consensus. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:48, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Uncited statements in the article and it has been tagged with an "additional citations for verification" banner since 2019. Z1720 (talk) 15:04, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have a biography on him and never got around to fully using it, so the article could also be a lot more comprehensive biographically aside from the citations needed. Best to delist it I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:17, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Clean-up lead[edit]

I have tagged this article as having multiple issues with lead section. Guideline WP:LEAD, at WP:LEADLENGTH indicate a good article should have a lead section of no more than 4 paragraphs or about 300 words. This article's lead section has extra information that is not included in the body of the article. resulting in the lead extending to 6 paragraphs. So I added the clean-up tag {{Lead extra info}}. Based on MOS:LEAD, the lead section should introduce and summarize an article, without being too verbose or detailed. The fifth paragraph, which is about subject's role the Battle of Alcatraz could be summarized in a sentence. Stroud's role, whether the real account, or an over-dramatized fictionalized movie version is not covered elsewhere in either this article or the one about the battle. This makes this biographical coverage appear inaccurate, which is worse than totally omitting it, because its presence teases the reader and raises their expectations about the full article only to be disappointed by the absence of further coverage. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 00:28, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]