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Name[edit]

Note on the name Champion Darbydales's All Rise Pouchcove: This is a pun - Pouch Cove is a place in Newfoundland - it is pronounced "pooch cove".

Signed and dated for archiving purposes only. William Harris • (talk) • 09:32, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dog cock[edit]

In the picture of the dog, you can see its cock sticking out of the penis-sheath. The red portion is visible and is quite large. I realize this is a natural part of a dog and there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it is sort of embarrassing. It'd be like if the main picture at the top of Abraham Lincoln's wikipedia page showed him with a huge boner in his pants. The Newfoundland is a majestic dog and it deserves a picture that is equally majestic, and free from visible dog-cock.

I didn't notice it until I read your note here. Still, if there's a better picture that shows the breed well while being fair-use, I wouldn't complain to the current picture's replacement. 24.107.10.223 (talk) 21:45, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.216.43 (talk) 06:51, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Are people this ridiculous? It's a dog, not a human & yes, it's natural for a dog. It's a very good picture of a Newfie, that's the point of the picture, not anything else! Please, people will complain about anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.36.80.242 (talk) 23:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

give me a break, you're the one with issues if you're eyes are drawn to his little (big) pink thing. Anyone who's ever owned a male dog has seen this and learned not to react like a child. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.126.34 (talk) 19:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Um, its clear, pink dog cock, and when you view the larger image, its very obvious. A dog licking its balls is natural too, as a in many cases, a dog eating shit. Natural does not equal a good image. I'd load image with the pink semi boner.

Signed and dated for archiving purposes only. William Harris • (talk) • 09:32, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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2020 Clarification on Breed Origin[edit]

The article reads:

"The Newfoundland breed originated on Newfoundland, and is descended from a breed indigenous to the island known as the lesser Newfoundland, or St. John's dog."

also:

"By the time colonization was permitted in Newfoundland in 1610, the distinct physical characteristics and mental attributes had been established in the Newfoundland breed."

Are there any references for this? Reasons include:

The indigenous Beothuk culture did not keep dogs. At the same time, before colonization began in the 1600s, European fisherman were present only seasonally and would only make landfall for repairs and so forth ([it seems there may have been fishing outposts in the 1500s]). To my understanding, no dogs should have been living on the island before colonization, or at least until the 1500s. Again, unless someone can provide a reference here.

The island did not have indigenous dogs. The St. Johns dog was a byproduct of English, Irish and Portuguese working dogs brought by fisherman after Newfoundland was "discovered" by Europeans after the 1490s ^[1].

What evidence do we have that the breed was distinct by 1610? From the best that I can tell, the first account of a Newfie-like dog was in 1790 in a wood carving by Thomas Bewick^[2], and it does not necessarily match what we think of as a Newfie today. User:Winspiff 02:11, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Gosling, Samuel; Graham, Lindsay (2009-04-28), "Temperament and Personality in Working Dogs", Canine Ergonomics, CRC Press, pp. 63–81, doi:10.1201/9781420079920.ch4, ISBN 9781420079913
^ "Teasing apart the history of the Newfoundland dog, the St. John's water dog, and the retrievers". RetrieverMan. Retrieved 26 April 2020.

[1] Gosling, Samuel; Graham, Lindsay (2009-04-28), "Temperament and Personality in Working Dogs", Canine Ergonomics, CRC Press, pp. 63–81, doi:10.1201/9781420079920.ch4, ISBN 9781420079913

[RetrieverMan-2] "Teasing apart the history of the Newfoundland dog, the St. John's water dog, and the retrievers". RetrieverMan. Retrieved 26 April 2020.

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