Talk:Eleonora Duse

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If she was buried in Italy, why does she have a headstone at the Green-Wood Cemetery in Brooklyn (headstone reads: "Eleonora Duse 1858...1924 FORTUNATE...DESPERATE...TRUSTFUL") It was because of encountering this headstone that I googled her (who has "fortunate...desperate...trustful" engraved on their tombstone?!). So, where is her body really? If anyone can send me any more information they may have on Elenora Duse please send it to who_cares_about_us@yahoo.com Thank You

   For a sort-of-answer as to why Duse's name is inscribed on a grave stone at Green-Wood Cemetery in Brooklyn, New York, see the web pages at
   https://www.green-wood.com/2015/sargent-portraits-of-artists-and-friends/
   and at
   https://www.wqxr.org/story/spirit-martin-waldron/
   and at
   https://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/01/nyregion/thecity/the-immortal-duse.html
   Walter Dufresne (talk) 21:23, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT[edit]

What makes her be put in this category? -Yupik 13:36, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There's something schitzophrenic about this woman. The article gives her no female lovers - this gives her no male ones. I have no idea what category she should be under. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 23:56, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately that page is entirely worthless. It begins

Born in Vigevano, near Venice, of unknown parents…

But only the first three of those words are correct!

She certainly had two very famous male lovers: D’Annunzio (whom we mention), and Arrigo Boito (which must be added). Also a good number of less famous ones. So heterosexual, undoubtedly. Bisexual? Rather clear evidence would be needed, I think. Her biography on the glbtq site, which we cite, makes one clear claim and some half-hearted ‘it has been rumoured that’ type claims. The clear one is this:

In 1909, Duse began a relationship with a rebellious young feminist who had been the lover of writer Sibilla Aleramo and who dressed as a man, Lina Poletti. This affair was intense and romantic and almost certainly consummated physically.

I find that a bit undermined by the ‘almost certainly’. What is certain is that Lina Poletti was in love with her. She says exactly that in letters to Duse quoted in William Weaver’s biography (p. 287). He is very sceptical, however, about their having become lovers:

All her life, Duse had been admired by women as much as by men [….] According to Alessandra Cenni, in her introduction to a collection of Sibilla Aleramo’s letters, Lina—after leaving Sibilla—became Duse’s lover. There is no documentary evidence for this assertion. And, given Duse’s character, it seems unlikely.

He sees Lina, in fact, as more of a child-substitute for Eleanora. I don’t get any sense that Weaver has any agenda here—that he would have been remotely disturbed by the thought of his heroine in bed with a woman.

All in all I think the category should go. OK, I’ll be bold and remove it. But I won’t be remotely unhappy if it�s restored along with some evidence;)

Anyone fancy starting the article on Sibilla Aleramo? I’ve been meaning to for about a year, but have failed. Someone jump in there and do it.

—Ian Spackman 12:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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