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George Washington Carver High School Diploma[edit]

If you have the proof that George Washington Carver graduated and received a high school diploma at Minneapolis High School in Minneapolis, Kansas, please provide it or immediately remove the reference to it in your article. As Curator of the Ottawa Count Museum in Minneapolis, Kansas, I can tell you for a fact that we have NO EVIDENCE of him graduating from MHS and receiving a high school diploma. Quite to the contrary, our alumni only goes back to 1888 and Mr. Carver was long gone from the area by then. There are plenty of things for our community to be proud of concerning Mr. Carver. We certainly do not need to make things up. He did attend classes and receive an education of sorts in Minneapolis, but minus the diploma. And I don't believe he ever made the claim of graduating, he was way too classy for mistruths. Again, provide your proof or edit the article to reflect the truths!!

Either way, thanks for the peanut butter[edit]

Either way, big thanks for the peanut butter - it takes more effort to make a dish popular than to try and cook something random. 109.252.65.192 (talk) 07:30, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Permaculture[edit]

This carries no citation and has grammatical and or chemical errors (produces carbon from the atmosphere): "In his research, Carver discovered Permaculture. Permaculture could be used to produce carbon from the atmosphere, produce a higher quantity of crops, and let crops flourish despite global warming." Humbaba's Husband (talk) 04:44, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism[edit]

@Toketaa, Leonidlednev, and Philipnelson99: Thanks for your prompt reverts of vandalism. Indeed, we have just had ~~three~~ five (and no doubt more) counts of vandalism in a matter of days. Isn't it about time to increase the protection level of this article? -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:46, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bad sources for quotations[edit]

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As Drmies said it is a bad source, indeed. All of the self-help and suchlike books that parrot this are really no better than "BrainyQuote", too.

Better sources, such as the McMurry book (p.105) say that Carver said this to "young blacks", to his students, not to critics. I'm not sure where this would go in an article that doesn't seem to address what Carver taught in any great detail, only when and where, though. It certainly doesn't belong in a personal life section.

Uncle G (talk) 07:18, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uncle G, this is the kind of source where yearbook quotes come from. The smart yearbook teacher (and Mrs Drmies is one) will just scrap the whole stupid quote thing. BTW this article is remarkably bad. I was going to copy and paste it for one of my son's school assignments, but I'll let AI write it. ;) Drmies (talk) 14:56, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The problem is that both of the biographies that I looked at, the McMurry one and another simplistic one aimed at a younger readership, discussed how Carver got on with his students and the sorts of things that he said to them, something that this article currently largely skips over. From this article one gains the impression that Carver was reluctant to teach and had to be micro-managed; which isn't what McMurry indicates. Gary R. Kremer has an entire "Teacher as Motivator" chapter; and Michael Burgan has a "Life in the Lab and the Classroom" chapter. And since G. Lake Imes brought up the "humbug" incident when testifying to the U.S. Congress when the monument was being proposed, this article probably could too. Uncle G (talk) 13:09, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]