Talk:Mobilization

Mobilization in ancient Rome

Something wrong in the sentence ending with "....total Roman population (which included as many as 75% of males aged 17–45).[1]" I think the part in brackets refers not to the total Roman population, but to the militia levied from it.

Mobilization in World War II

Is there a Source for the partly and general Mobilization of Polands army in 1939? I didn't find anything on the net except right wing propaganda, so i'm curious that the Statement in this Article might be an edit from some right-wing-Guy, who wants to make Poland the Aggressor. --87.181.221.120 (talk) 16:29, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Mobilization in World War I

Needs to have more than just how mobilization contributed to the outbreak of World War I.

Go for it, dude! Ellsworth 23:01, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Fortnight

Unfortunately, I am abroad for some months, and can contribute only with the help of online contents (and maybe my memory). In particular: please note that the full version of the (reliable) book The army and economic mobilization by R. Elberton Smith is available online here. Anyway, this book mainly deals with american army in WW2. gala.martin (what?) 00:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Vietnam

Is it just me, or is this article wrong in stating that the majority of American troops in Vietnam were volunteers? I know the draft was active during the war, but I thought that most troops were draftees, not volunteers. I think that the article should cover the draft process during Vietnam, since it was a form of Cold War Mobilization. I just don't have very much information to expand that. Laserbeamcrossfire

Check the VFW page - the majority of US soldiers in Vietnam were volunteers. I'll try and find a source for that when I get a minute. It's a surprising statistic, but true. Bear in mind the draft was not specific to Vietnam, though, so is not a traditional "mobilization" - the fact the National Guard (IIRC) didn't participate in Vietnam should tell you something also.Michael Dorosh 21:45, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Shows you my true arragonce about Vietnam. :D If the National Guard were avaliable, why was the draft necessary at all? If the draft was not specific to Vietnam, would it still not be a form of mobilization, albiet archiac (since we are deploying the NG instead of drafting in Iraq). --Laserbeamcrossfire 21:59, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

It's an excellent question - Germany had the draft - most European nations did - in 1910, but weren't considered to have mobilized until 1914, after the declaration of war. So I would guess that if we are defining mobilization as preparation for war (meaning, war has been declared), I would say no. Will be interesting to see what others think on this.Michael Dorosh 23:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

If I recall correctly (and it's been a while since I've looked at this) Germany in 1914 had (a) an active-duty army, primarily composed of draftees; (b) a reserve force of recently discharged draftees; and (c) a National Guard-type force (Landswehr?) that was separate from the first two, and was not initially meant to be used in combat. The 1914 mobilization consisted primarily of the men in group (b) being called to active duty. Did the Vietnam-era US Army have reserve formations aside from the National Guard that were called up? Kirill Lokshin 23:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

That is fundamentally correct, although there may have been more than one class of recent dischargees in b). Andreas 08:12, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Cold War

I think that in the cold war section, we should write about the mobilization plans of the superpowers. Moreover, we say that there are more info available on the cold war article. Well, there there is almost nothing there about mobilization. Does anybody have any suggestion about references concerning mobilization during the cold war? I think it is an interesting issue. gala.martin (what?) 03:39, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Rates of mobilization through history

I thought about adding some stats, such as average levels of mobilization achieved in agricultural/industrial/post-industrial societies, and more examples through history (Roman Empire, etc.). I am having difficulty finding reliable sources. Can anyone help? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:46, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

A difficult one. I did some not-too-serious research into this a couple of years ago to help someone answer questions on what proportion of medieval population was active in military affairs and it is very hard to get robust figures. I did find some comparative material though, which might help. For example, there is an article called Americas Military Population which shows percentage of population engaged in war from 18th to 21st century http://www.deomi.org/contribute/DiversityMgmt/documents/AmericasMilitaryPopulation2004.pdf (see graph p.5)

There are a number of books which give figures of medieval armies taken from muster rolls and similar records. For example, the researches in Bell etal The Soldier in Later Medieval England, various comments in Verbruggen The Art of Warfare in Western Europe during the Middle Ages on muster strengths of Flemish cities, Muster information in Potter Renaissance France at War. But tend to be expressed in numbers, not percentages. So you'd have to research populations and compare, which is a bit WP:OR. There are a couple of comments in books I've noted. Philipe Contamine in War in the Middle Ages says that, in the late 15th century, French permanent forces were equivalent to 1 per cent of the male population between 18-45 (p.171). Hans Delbruck in History of the Art of War: The Middle Ages remarks that the 8,000 men Bern put in the field at Murten were 10% of the population (p.587). Hope these few bits help. Monstrelet (talk) 10:06, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

While looking into something else, I found this

Caroline Williamson : The Laws of the Roman People: Public Law in the Expansion and Decline of the Roman Republic, University of Michigan Press, 2005 pp206-7 . Estimates of the population engaged in military mobilization during Roman Republic. Monstrelet (talk) 17:00, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Bacon

In preparation for invasion Canada has amassed 90 percent of it's population on the US border (just a joke, delete me) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.172.172.8 (talk) 19:35, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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What's partial mobilization?

The difference between partial and full mobilization is not explained in the article, making the historical examples unclear. Ain92 (talk) 15:39, 4 October 2022 (UTC)