Talk:Douglas C-54 Skymaster

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copyvio?[edit]

compare opening paragraphs with http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/aircraft/skymastr.htm GraemeLeggett 20:27, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly looks like it. I'm not sure that it makes sense to re-write it, since I didn't see a copyright notice on daveswarbirds, but it should at least be referenced/credited. Dabarkey 05:02, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What's to say daveswarbirds didn't copy WP? I doubt it, but it could go either way. --Colputt 17:03, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DC-4 / C-54; &c[edit]

First, I see no reason whatever to have one article on the DC-4, and another on the C-54. It seems far-fetched to make a sharp distinction between the two, being the same aircraft. I advocate their union. Secondly: I am too dumb to understand, let alone to carry out, the instructions for entering comments to the List of Accidents and Incidents involving the DC-4 (in the list, the two designations are, commendably, allowed each other’s company). Therefore I take the liberty to enter the following comment on this Talk Page: I miss the dramatic and unusual case of TF-RVC, a C-54 that crashed 14 September 1950 on Vatnajökull glacier in Iceland carrying freight from Luxembourg heading for (but not on course to) Reykjavík. The accident, a “CFIT” one, had a happy end, although the stewardess suffered back pain ever since and the captain had permanent face scars. The entire crew’s survival could be thanked a “Gibson Girl” 500 kHz hand-cranked Notsender. This particular accident might even deserve an article on its own. --Togifex (talk) 22:04, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The earliest C-54s were DC-4s ordered by airlines, taken over by the Army Air Force before delivery, and given the designation C-54-DO & C-54-DO. Before the war the AAF had also ordered 9 C54-DCs (basically just a DC-4) & 62 C-54A-DCs which had a strengthened floor, cargo doors and a loading hoist. After VJ-Day, orders for 235 C-54G-20-DOs were cancelled and the components under construction were finished as DC-4-1009s. Just 61 DC-4s were ordered by airlines before the war (all taken over by the AAF). There were just 79 DC-4s built after the war. The total of DC-4s ordered was 140 , the number delivered was 79. There were 1,236 C-54s delivered.

The airplane was designed as a DC-4 and ended production as a DC-4. Most were ordered and delivered as C-54s. Which page should survive a merger?

After the war large numbers of C-54s were converted to passenger airliners. These were considered C-54s if they were converted by organizations than Douglas. Those converted by douglas were considered DC-4s. The airlines called them all DC-4s.

Capital Airlines operated 29 airplanes which appeared on it's schedules as DC-4s. Some actually were.

Example of post war use of DC-4 & C-54 by Capital Airlines.

N30063 C-54B 10447/DC178 616 05/50 05/56 C/L ATLANTA

N53022 DC-4-1009 42982/30 617 05/50 02/56 C/L DETROIT

N53487 R5D-1 10306/DC37 618 04/48 11/60 ex PCA; C/L CANTON

N56006 C-54A 10279/DC10 610 04/48 /55 ex PCA; A/F MILWAUKEE; C/L BALTIMORE

N79072 C-54B 18359/DO133 619;311 /48 05/55 C/L CHICAGO; A/F NEW YORK

N86554 C-54 3051/DO3 411 04/48 07/61 ex PCA; C/L WASHINGTON

N86555 C-54 3062/DO6 412B 04/48 07/60 ex PCA C/L CAVALIER

N86556 C-54 3115/DO5 / /  ??

N86557 C-54 3119/DO9 413 04/48 /55 ex PCA C/L HARRISBURG

N88745 C-54 3052/DO4 414 04/48 07/61 ex PCA C/L CHARLESTON

N88746 C-54 3063/DO9 415 04/48 07/61 ex PCA C/L KNOXVILLE

N88747 DC-4 3116/DO6 416 04/48 /55 ex PCA C/L NEWARK; cvtd C-54

N88748 DC-4 3124/DO14 417 04/48 07/61 ex PCA C/L AKRON; cvtd C-54

N88767 DC-4 3125/DO15 426 04/48 07/61 ex PCA C/L PITTSBURGH; cvtd C-54

N88839 DC-4 3060/DO2 418B 04/48 04/18/57 ex PCA; C/L CLEVELAND; cvtd C-54; WO Pittsburgh,PA

N88840 C-54 3061/DO5 419 04/48 / ex PCA; C/L MILWAUKEE


N88841 DC-4 3111/DO1 420B 04/48 07/61 ex PCA; C/L BUFFALO; cvtd C-54


N88843 DC-4 3113/DO3 422 04/48 / ex PCA; C/L NORFOLK; cvtd C-54

N88844 C-54 3118/DO8 09/49 12/49 LF NE

N88851 DC-4 3121/DO11 423 04/48 07/61 ex PCA; C/L DETROIT; cvtd C-54

N88852 C-54 3123/DO13 04/48 /49 ex PCA

N88863 DC-4 3120/DO10 424B 04/48 /59 ex PCA; C/L ROCHESTER; cvtd C-54 (ATLANTA)

N88864 DC-4 3122/DO12 425B 04/48 07/61 ex PCA; C/L BIRMINGHAM; cvtd C-54

N91047 / 312

N91067 DC-4 10295/DC26 611 04/48 05/55 ex PCA; C/L TWIN CITIES; cvtd R5D-1

N91069 DC-4 10363/DC94 612 04/48 07/61 ex PCA; C/L YOUNGSTOWN; cvtd R5D-1

N91070 DC-4 7447/DO55 613 04/48 07/61 ex PCA; C/L CHATTANOOGA; cvtd R5D-1

N95409 C-54A 10413/DC144 614 04/48 /55 ex PCA; C/L NEW ORLEANS

N95410 C-54A 10387/DC118 615 04/48 /55 ex PCA; C/L MOBILE

For the source for the DC-4/C-54 information is Pearcy, Arthur, Douglas Propliners DC-1 - DC-7, Airlife Publishing Ltd., Shrewsbury, England, 1995, ISBN 1 85310261 X. The source for the capital Airline fleet list is at http://www.aeromoe.com/fleets/airlines.html

Mark Lincoln (talk) 19:59, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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