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Article lacks credibility because of the racism inherent in it[edit]

The article describes philosophy as a purely white, European, etc study, area of knowledge. It ignores Nubian, Khemetic, Olmec, Mayan, Inca, Zulu, Yoruba, Taino, aboriginal Australian philosophy. Wikipedia must not allow editors that have racist ideologies (based on white supremacy) to edit and spread racism, academic dishonesty and spread mistruths masquerading as academic research. For several years my edits on Wikipedia have been removed within minutes to hours by said racist editors. I have been keeping screenshots (before and after) and will continue to forward such evidence to relevant authorities in an attempt to end racism on Wikipedia and via Wikipedia. PS: I've also been blocked at various junctures by said individuals. --2604:2000:DDD1:4900:A074:AF95:8B69:F2F0 (talk) 06:06, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • These are claims and complaints. What do you suggest be changed? You shouldn't go around accusing editors of racism and white supremacy when it's perfectly likely that the people who are reversing your edits are non-white non-Europeans. Especially considering that the very first section concerns non-white non-European philosophy. It sounds like you didn't have a whole lot of evidence to go along with your edits, and they were removed for being contrarian and less than contributory. Mach 2 in 2 minutes (talk) 23:54, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Authors ought to be a bit brave and honest[edit]

Can we be a little bit brave and honest and put the ancient philosophy in chronological order. It seems in all philosophy articles wikipedia authors are too scared to ensure chronology and try hard to put Indian philosophy much later. As per Voltaire they are the first philosophers and eventually that is what people will accept when truth become more acceptable. So it will be better if we stop putting western-philosophy sections first even when the main reason a person is looking at the article is to check the chronology. Be brave, because even if you are not the truth stays as truth and there are always infinite ways to find out truth.

Presocratics[edit]

There used to be a section for presocratic philosophers. I don't know why it was removed, but I added the presocratics, since they clearly count as both ancient and philosophers. --D. Webb 18:53, 4 November 2006 (UTC) There is a separate page for them, put those links there. --203.217.54.49 07:41, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hellenistic philosophers[edit]

I moved Pyrrho, Epicurus and others down to Arcessilaus to the Hellenistic section (they were in the Classcal philosophers section) since Epicurus, the Stoics, Pyrrho and the sceptical tradition are always taken to be hellenistic philosophers. --D. Webb 18:53, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Roman philosophy[edit]

It is not clear to me that Plutarch and Sextus Empiricus are Roman as opposed to Greek philosophers, even though they lived in the Roman Empire. At any rate, they are not Roman philosophers in the same sense ans e.g. Lucretius or Cicero. Accordingly I changed the section heading to include late antiquity, which seems suitable since in that section we find figures like Proclus and Simplicius, which clearly count as late antiquity. --D. Webb 18:53, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Topic is ANCIENT Philosophy[edit]

This page is devoted to *ancient* philosophy. The continuation of any lineage into Medieval philosophy is the topic for another page. In particular, Iranian philosophy can be divided nicely into pre-Islamic and Islamic periods, with the pre-Islamic period being "ancient". So roughly 600 CE as a cutoff works pretty well for both European and Iranian ancient philosophies. 137.53.241.1 (talk) 19:30, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Recent edit warring[edit]

@YaakovHaEved and Carchasm: more discussion, less edit warring, please. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:31, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]