Talk:Wheelchair rugby

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Former good article nomineeWheelchair rugby was a Sports and recreation good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
November 15, 2007Good article nomineeNot listed

Untitled[edit]

Wheelchair rugby already exists, and this seems no different. Is it? - DavidWBrooks 15:00, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Tried to clean the mess that this article was up a bit. However, I think it needs some attention by somebody who actually knows about that sport. --Doco 15:30, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

i am James cullis

I know something about this sport, and I'll try to clean this page up. I'm new to Wikipedia, however, so please feel free to let me know if I go awry. Eron 20:04, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It looks like this page has a lot of content quoted directly from quadrugby.com: http://www.quadrugby.com/qr-brief.htm --209.108.217.226 21:07, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

from http://www.paralympics.com/paralympic_sports/wheelchair_rugby.htm

"About Wheelchair Rugby - A relatively new sport which debuted in (the Paralympics held at) Sydney, but one which has got a lot of support worldwide over the last few years. - Also known as Quad Rugby it is played using a volleyball, on a standard basketball court, by 4 players per team (a squad of 12). Players are graded according to level of disability from 0.5 (approximately equal to a C5 tetraplegic) to 3.5 (least impaired) and the team fielded must total 8.0 points or less - similar idea to wheelchair basketball. The teams are not gender specific."

It would seem sesible to put this Paralympic sport above the power version.

It looks like Wheelchair rugby is more closely related to Murder Ball/Murderball than Rugby, right? -- DLeonard 07:14, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

You could be right. Perhaps in should go in the 'ball sports' category.GordyB 11:47, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed "Team United States are the current world champions" from the "history" section as the same information is repeated down the page. (sorry if this is in the wrong place, I'm not very familiar with wikipedia.) Titanium geek (talk) 23:26, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category[edit]

I've returned this to Category:Rugby as it is neither a form of rugby union nor rugby league but related to both. Similar in my view to say Underwater rugby or Touch rugby.GordyB 14:19, 17 October 2005 (UTC) if you ever played it you would never put it in the category with "touch" rugby there is nothing gentil about it it is full contact chair to chair.[reply]

I don't doubt it but the Category:Rugby has got nothing to do with how rough a sport is.GordyB 14:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA review[edit]

The article has not one citation, the only one there is (in the "recent results" section) is not in the good format (<ref></ref> or other). You should check out WP:CITE. I'm obliged to quick fail the article. Thank you for your work so far. -Yamanbaiia 17:23, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, I figured it might get hung up on the references. I'm a bit unclear on what requires in-line citations. The GA criteria state "at minimum, provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons;" I'm not sure that there is any of that in the article. (Not that in-line citations wouldn't improve the article, but I'd like to know where to start.)
I'd also like to get an idea of how it stacks up against the other GA criteria. If there are other fatal flaws that need to be fixed, I'd like to get them sorted out before I put it up again. Thanks. - EronTalk 17:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Murderball poster.jpg[edit]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:17, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quadriplegic??[edit]

From the opening paragraphs:

All wheelchair rugby players are quadriplegic, with a disability affecting both upper and lower limbs.

This does not jive with even the pictures in the article which show players actively using their arms. Somehow, this does not seem to jive. --Donovan Ravenhull (talk) 06:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quadriplegia means paralysis or disability affecting all four limbs. It does not mean that persons cannot use their upper limbs at all. There is a broad range of disability covered by the term; Christopher Reeve was a quadriplegic; so are Sam Sullivan and Mark Zupan.
To be eligible to play, wheelchair rugby players must have a loss of function in their arms. Almost all of them have some loss of hand function; many others have limited use of forearm muscles, biceps, triceps, etc. - EronTalk 16:52, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not that i'm doubting you, but i'd like to get a citation. 123.243.242.57 (talk) 04:50, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Blatant vandalism[edit]

"Wheelchair rugby is a noob sport for athletes with a disability."

In what whay is that encyclopaedic? Lingotic (talk) 15:00, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted it Roger (talk) 15:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not rugby[edit]

This page should make it clear that this sport only borrowed the word Rugby and is in fact nothing like the game of Rugby and shares not common roots 86.42.66.208 (talk) 22:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The trouble with your addition is that it creates a contradiction: "The rules include elements of wheelchair basketball, ice hockey, handball and Rugby. It is a contact sport and physical contact between wheelchairs is an integral part of the game. It has little in common with Rugby football except for the name." can't both be true.
Until a reliable source is cited for either of the statements my preference is to let the older, more stable/unchallenged statement stand. Roger (talk) 07:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why can't both be true , Gaelic football has elements of basketball (bouncing the ball),soccer (kicking) and rugby (tackles) but has little little in common with any of them 86.42.103.105 (talk) 19:22, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Country list and map disagree[edit]

The map and the list of counries are not the same. This discrepancy needs to be fixed. Roger (talk) 16:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, updated map has been uploaded to the Commons. EronTalk 21:01, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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At least four limbs[edit]

"players need to have disabilities that include at least some loss of function in at least four limbs"

Is this right..? At least four limbs? Am I missing something here, or do people generally not have only four? 139.222.148.164 (talk) 17:58, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's a typo, the official rules say three. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:28, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Goals v Tries[edit]

Our article currently speaks only of Goals, with no mention of Tries, and our article Try (rugby) (to whose Talk Page I have now added a similar section) currently makes no mention of wheelchair rugby. But the Channel 4 commentary on the Tokyo 2020 Paralympic Games (currently taking place in 2021 due to the Covid19 pandemic) almost always speaks of tries, and when a player scores a caption (presumably from some official paralympic broadcaster) often or usually appears showing his (or very rarely her) name and the word "tries" followed by the number of times he or she has scored in the match, thus seemingly indicating that 'tries' is now some sort of official terminology, at least in British English (for all I know, it could be Goals, Points, Scores, or Touchdowns, in various other varieties of English). I think both articles need to be amended to say something about this, though quite likely I won't be doing so myself anytime soon (if at all) per WP:NOTCOMPULSORY and WP:BNO, so other perhaps more interested editors should feel free to try to fix the matter themselves. Tlhslobus (talk) 11:26, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On second thoughts, I've now added similar sentences to both articles, which may well be adequate. Tlhslobus (talk) 12:41, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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