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A collaborative Wikiproject for Christchurch-related articles ?[edit]

A small group of editors have shown interest in collaboration to improve the Christchurch article, and significant work has already taken place. In addition to the work on the main article, the collaboration will involve review and changes for various Christchurch-related articles, and potentially the creation of some new articles. It may be useful to establish a Wikiproject to help co-ordinate this work and provide a central place for discussion about inter-relationships between content etc. Future expansion of the project scope could potentially include improvements to media in Wikimedia Commons, and enhancing coverage in Wikidata and Wikisource. There are several possible approaches to a project for supporting collaboration. These are:

  1. stay with the current approach of discussions on the talk pages of articles (ie, do not establish a project)
  2. establish a simple collaborative project page (or taskforce), broadly similar to WP:WikiProject New Zealand/National parks. This might include a table with a row for each section of the main article, and a separate table listing some related articles that are important to the discussions, with some notes about the issues and proposed steps for those sections or articles. Establishing a simple collaborative project page appears quite easy.
  3. establish a fully-featured WikiProject_Christchurch, possibly following the example of: WP:WikiProject_Auckland, including a banner for the new Wikiproject to be applied to the talk page for all category-linked articles (presumably by a robot or tool), and then providing an automated table of all articles linked to the WikiProject_Christchurch, with their importance and quality rating. Establishing a fully-featured WikiProject appears somewhat complex, but would be in line with other projects for city articles (see listing of benchmark projects on the WikiProject Auckland page). However, it would need a reasonably large number of editors involved to make this worthwhile.

Please provide feedback on the merits of a WikiProject for Christchurch-related articles, and the preferred approach._Marshelec (talk) 22:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In my view, a taskforce is plenty enough. There aren't the numbers available to support or justify a full-blown WikiProject. Schwede66 23:27, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that a taskforce under WPNZ is plenty. I'm happy to help with coordinating. David Palmer aka cloventt (talk) 23:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would be interested in participating in a Christchurch taskforce. I have never been to Christchurch (nor Auckland), so I don't have particuarly much knowledge about the area in my head already, but I have noticed that Christchurch articles tend to pique my interest more than most places, so it would be nice to be told about topics which have no, or limited, coverage on Wikipedia. 📊Panamitsu (talk) 00:22, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I approve this task force, seems like a nice project. Alexeyevitch(talk) 00:44, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Medtral[edit]

So, as part of the Wikidata Coordinate Me 2024 I've stumbled on a New Zealand "hospital" called Medtral. I'm not sure if they're still a thing, since www.medtral.com is now an expired domain, searching doesn't turn up much, and the article history looks very suspiciously WP:COI or WP:BROCHURE mostly circa 2008-09. Should we delete the article? I've changed the Wikidata item to an instance of "medical tourism" instead of "hospital" in the meantime. — Jon (talk) 08:27, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I came across the same one the other day trying to clean up the list of NZ articles without coordinates but forgot to mention it. I've got the same concerns about it as a thing and reckon it could be worth deletion - I noticed it had a couple of news articles a while back, but not a lot recently. Turnagra (talk) 09:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was the international marketing arm of MercyAscot. The WP article seems to be part of their marketing effort. Delete. Nurg (talk) 22:35, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Created by an SPA, who I suspect had COI. It's not something I've heard of in my work in the Auckland health region, so I agree with deleting. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Medtral (2nd nomination) Schwede66 20:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Medtral was removed from the Companies Register in 2020. So delete.--Gertrude206 (talk) 06:44, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ThreeNow[edit]

Hi there, I have finished a draft article on the ThreeNow streaming service. However, the mainspace ThreeNow currently redirects to Three (TV channel). Was wondering if someone who is an admin could resolve this issue? Thanks. Andykatib (talk) 21:32, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've filed for the redirect to be speedily deleted, I should be able to sort the draft once that's been processed. Turnagra (talk) 05:11, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Turnagra:, thanks so much. Hope things go smoothly. Andykatib (talk) 12:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Should be all sorted and approved now! Turnagra (talk) 19:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Saturday 18 May Auckland - Edit-a-thon and Photo tour -Women in Architecture Aotearoa[edit]

Women in Architecture Aotearoa WikiProject is a project to improve content of New Zealand women architects and their work in Wikipedia, Wikidata and Wikimedia Commons.

On Saturday 18 May 2024 there is an in-person walking tour at 10am - 1pm and an editing event 10am - 4pm. Book a tickets (for catering and organsing puprses). Lunch preovided. Feel free to drop in anytime for a refesher of how to do Wikipedia or to contribute your exterptse and meet others.

This project is inspired by the publishing in 2022 of the book Making Space: A History of New Zealand Women in Architecture edited by Elizabeth Cox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland_23

Walking Tour, 10am to 1pm The walking tour will be starting in Auckland CBD and take you to five locations. Free license photos and images are a challenging aspect of filling out wikipedia articles. Attendees will be asked to take photos during the walking tour and upload them to WikiCommons to contribute to the online database! Meet outside the Ellen Melville Centre at 10am, we will finish the tour at Auckland Museum. Lunch will be provided, followed by a tutorial on photo uploading by Lisa. Please bring your own laptop for uploading!


Edit-a-thon, 10am to 4pm The edit-a-thon will run from 10am-4pm at the Learning Labs at Auckland Museum. Copies of Making Space and other publications will be available for reference. All experience levels welcome! A beginners’ course will be held at 10am after introductions, for new editors or experienced ones that need a refresher. Location: Learning Labs, at Auckland Museum, Level 1 next to Te Whiwhinga the Imaginarium.


Feel free to come by any time during the day to join the group.

Please bring your own editing device.

Lunch will be provided at 1pm.
Pakoire (talk) 04:36, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shine TV sources[edit]

The Christian TV channel Shine TV has a streaming service called Shine On Demand but have had trouble finding third party sources like news media or Scoop reports. The only sources that I have been able to find are its website and two Facebook Videos from 2020 and 2021. Not sure if I can use these sources for the article? Andykatib (talk) 12:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The website is probably fine for WP:ABOUTSELF but you're not going to be able to write much more than the fact that it exists with those sources. If it has no coverage outside of their website and Facebook does it merit inclusion? Traumnovelle (talk) 15:36, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If it does not have independent sources it’s not notable. Schwede66 18:53, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wairau Creek, Auckland[edit]

Hi, was pointed here (by User Lovelano (thank you)) from Commons. I realised that there are two distinct creeks called "Wairau Creek" in Auckland, one to the north of Waitemata Harbour (meeting Hauraki Gulf at Milford Reserve), and the other between Glendene and Kelston in the southwest of the harbour.

What would be the best way to name the categories on Commons for these two distinct creeks as at the moment, we have c:Category:Wairau Creek (4 images - I do not know if they're all of the same creek) and c:Category:Wairau Creek, Auckland (empty): they are not specific enough, but I'm unfamiliar with local views/naming/best practice.

The descriptions for the Wikidata items:

Based on that, suggested category names are: "Wairau Creek, Kelston" and "Wairau Creek, North Shore"? Any thoughts? I can create cats etc., but feel free to be bold. Thanks in advance. Deadstar (talk) 13:01, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why not just Wairau Creek, Milford? Traumnovelle (talk) 15:35, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You would disambiguate based on a suburb, not some reserve. Schwede66 18:54, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your replies. So is the suggestion "Wairau Creek, Kelston" and "Wairau Creek, Milford"? Deadstar (talk) 18:59, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No. "Wairau Creek, Kelston" and "Wairau Creek, North Shore". Schwede66 19:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that is fine. It makes no sense to use a suburb for one and the larger area/old city for another. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:24, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What? Both Milford and Kelston are suburbs, Milford isn't 'some reserve' and the North Shore isn't a suburb. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]