Talk:Protestantism by country

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China[edit]

Ridwan Gazi 11:55, 1 January 2007 (UTC)The percentage population of China is Totally wrongRidwan Gazi 11:55, 1 January 2007 (UTC) Mozambique is shown twice, with different numbers, on the Top 60 list, on the right side. --84.154.68.197 18:22, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)[reply]

One of those "Mozambiques" should have been "Venezuala", I have corrected it. -BSveen 21:05, Apr 17, 2005 (UTC)

The graph is wrong[edit]

The percentages on the graph do not match with the text According to the text 55% of the population of US is protestant. According to the red color on the leftmost graph the percentage is somewhere between 1% and 10%. The rightmost graph shows a number between 11% and 20%. Most of the other percentages are also wrong. Either the graph should be deleted or the the text should be corrected.


The map is indeed wrong, as it shows Ethiopia has having 11-20 million Protestants, whereas the text (correct, according to the 1994 census) says that 10.1% of Ethiopians, or about 7.3 million (applying the percentage to today's population) people are protestant, which would make Ethiopia's Pcolor on the map red. It's listed as purple (11-20 million), however.
Hehe, both maps are actually correct, although they are certainly realized in a very confusing fashion and just until a few moments ago I myself had the same hunch you had. Then I looked twice, or rather, thrice, and recognized my (our) error. But when you've got it, it's a fairly simple story: These numbers the respective colors stand for, do not signify millions (of people in population), nor do they signify a popular magnitude at all. Instead, these are the respective ranks: both maps show the top sixty Protestant countries colored! That's just why the numbers go only up to 60! ;-) So it could hardly mean "percent"; nor could it mean "millions of people", as for example the USA obviously have a greater population than 60 million. These are simply the ranks. That explains why three of the world's most populous nations (USA, China, Brazil) are all red on the map regarding Protestant numbers, despite only one of these nations (USA) being generally known as predominantly Protestant. Zero Thrust (talk) 12:04, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How could you possibly have 7 billion Protestants, when the total of the planet is barely even that? All of Christianity is just over 2 billion. These numbers are not accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.89.207.173 (talk) 18:14, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Anglicans[edit]

As discussed elsewhere, the Anglican Church officially considers itself to be a Catholic church separated from Rome by the excommunication of Elizabeth the first, not a protestant church. It has many protestant members but there is no way you can count the whole of it as protestant --BozMo|talk 09:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The Anglican Church is a Protestant body. [1]. I'm afraid that you are misunderstanding what they mean when they say "catholic". They are refering to the word catholic as it is very seldom used in the vernacular, i.e. catholic as in part of the "universal Christian Church", not Catholic as in the church headed by the pope in Rome... BSveen 20:02, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)
Many (perhaps most) Anglicans use "catholic" that way, but the fact remains that Anglicanism is not uniformly Protestant, nor is it always counted as such by religious studies scholars. Carolynparrishfan (talk) 22:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, we have to consider the "High Church" and the "low Church" & Broad Church. The services of last 2 Churches are really like services in other traditionnal protestant Churches. We find the anglican songs in the reformed church, lutheran church, ... But it's true that the High church is "like a catholic church". However the High Church and low Church exist in the lutheran Church... and they are protestant... but episcopalian protestant... I agree with the meaning of the word "catholic". Catholic = universal (real meaning of the word) and not "roman catholic church". 22:38, 26 June 2008

Several European countries[edit]

The figures for Germany, UK and other countries seem rather high. In the cases of Italy and Russia the figures seem to refer to a respectively large church rather than to Protestantism at large. Sarcelles 17:21, 3 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes the UK figure does seem high, but the Germany figure is ok, recent polling data in Germany determined that 36% of Germans self-identify as Protestants[2]. But you're right about the UK numbers being too high, I invite you to find a better UK figure to replace the current one. BSveen 18:10, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)
Religion in the United Kingdom has about 70 % Christians from the last census. Supposing 10 % Catholic baptisms overall might give about 11 percent Catholics among the Christians. So I would be at about 63.3 % non-Catholic Christians. 60 % maybe would seem appropriate.

Sarcelles 09:57, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Even 60% seems to overstate Protestants as against Catholics. The 70% figure includes large numbers of extremely nominal Christians who do not know whether they are Protestants or Catholics. Also some members of the C of E consider themselves more Catholic than Protestant. Even so it is obviously wrong to retain the 70% figure in the bottom list while giving 60% above. I will try to correct it. Dec 2005 (LSC)

The figures for Slovenia are also wrong. According to the census of 2002 the number of protestants is 16135 (of which 14736 lutheran protestants and 1399 other protestants),that is roughly 0.8%. The number given by the lutheran protestant church of slovenia is 18000, but their figures tend to be overestimated as the numbers are simply an approximation by a non-independent researcher.

Estonia has 600,000 protestants - 52% of the population?? How about checking Religion in Estonia, where it says 14.8% are lutherans, other protestants are minor groups, making it maybe 16% if not even less. This seems like original research. --H2ppyme (talk) 08:06, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can't think of any Christians who "do not know whether they are Protestants or Catholics". The wording of polls can be deliberately confusing, thusly affecting the results. If "nominal" Roman Catholics (more accurate than using "Catholic" which Protestans are) and Protestants were truly included then the percentage of Protestants would be higher. The figure as it stands gives an acceptable indication. Acorn897 (talk) 16:54, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Japan[edit]

The Japan have 509,668 Catholics, the Japan have 509,668 Protestants. The Roman Catholicism in Japan have references, the Protestants no. Someone might find the references to the Protestants? Sorry my bad English. Bruno Ishiai (talk) 22:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References needed.[edit]

This article needs much better references for the figures quoted. May i suggest that the pattern i have followed in the Ireland section is followed for all other countries. That is to have a reference for the pop of the country with the year of that census in brackets and a reference for the number of protestants. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eleutherius (talkcontribs) 22:08, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong figures[edit]

For the Dem. Rep. of the Congo, the first list gives 51%, the second list gives only 20% (which seems to be more realistic). The figure for Hungary (24%) is also probably way too high. De wafelenbak (talk) 10:55, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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UK not a majority Protestant country anymore?[edit]

The latest 2011 UK Census gives total CHRISTIANS as 59.5%, yet this list gives the UK as being 62% Protestant, which is obviously impossible. Given that Catholics and Orthodox combined make up more than 9% of the population of the UK, it is quite possible that the UK is not even a majority Protestant country anymore. At most it is about 50% Protestant, not 51%.

Go ahead and change it. I bet in reality, it's 30% Protestant or even less.Ernio48 (talk) 19:14, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Need for a purge[edit]

This article, together with other articles about Christianity (Christianity by country, Christian population growth, Growth of religion, the "Christianity" article itself, etc.) need to be cleansed of the garbage that over the years was introduced by the now, and finally, indefinitely-banned user Jobas. These articles were deeply manipulated by the user in order to make up a bogus, "big number" of Protestants and Christians in general. On 4 January an anonymous user fixed many of the data, but there is a strong need of a thoroughgoing purge of both this article and the others.--80.116.12.137 (talk) 16:14, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pentecostal?[edit]

"In 2010, the largest Protestant denominational families were historically Pentecostal denominations..."

Since the term "Pentecostal" means something different now than what is being intended in this sentence (I assume), this word should definitely be removed. "Pentecostals" are a large and controversial denomination of their own and have nothing to do with the denominations listed here. 98.10.117.154 (talk) 12:12, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]