Talk:John Tenniel

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Alice's Blue Dress[edit]

I have deleted these two sentences as they are inaccurate, "In Tenniel's early colored works of Alice, her dress was blue, her white pinafore outlined in red, and she was blonde.[1] This look has, perhaps, become the classic and most widely recognized Alice in Wonderland dress in later works."

The illustration cited in those sentences was drawn by Tenniel, but not coloured by him. http://www.frieze.com/issue/article/adrian_piper/ Tenniel provided colour illustrations for The Nusery "Alice" in 1890 and in that book Tenniel coloured Alice's dress yellow with a white pinafore with blue trim. http://www.aliang.net/literature/the_nursery_alice/tna_ch11.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.193.214.128 (talk) 12:12, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Ridiculous and inappropriate currency conversion[edit]

"By 1885 he was earning a $7,000 annual salary for his weekly Punch cartoon[3]—the equivalent of more than $165,000 today."

John Tenniel, being British, living in England and working for the referenced British periodical, Punch, never earned a salary of US (presumably) dollars. He would have been paid in the currency of the time, Sterling. The payment would have been accounted in pounds or guineas.

By what quirk of editorial licence has this been converted into US (presumably) dollars? To have made the conversion is not only inappropriate, but exhibits a degree of ignorance quite out of place in an encyclopaedia.

Consider, for example, even if the arbitrary conversion to US (presumably) dollars were to be made it would be necessary to refer to the particular exchange rate used which, if contemporary relevance were to be maintained, would need to be regularly reviewed and updated. It is about as nonsensical as quoting Mark Zuckerberg's salary in pounds sterling.

Please can the UK sterling figure be used? Furthermore, can some editorial guidance be put in place to avoid such basic corruption of the value of similarly misguided articles.

One would think that the editors of Wikipedia are completely ignorant of the majority of the world outside one of its more recent countries: the United States of America. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.3.98 (talk) 15:35, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorted the content[edit]

I have combined two separate sections about his career as the Punch cartoonist and moved other paragraphs into the most directly relevant sections. I hope this is accepted as an improvement. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:43, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Germanic Nazarenes[edit]

Where's the link to an article on this? 72.83.36.199 (talk) 22:20, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There was one in the 1st sentence of "Style"; I've added another where the term is first mentioned. Ewulp (talk) 00:43, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

sometimes hard to follow[edit]

This is not very well edited. It's difficult to follow in places, because it reads as if large chunks of it have simply been taken verbatim from another source, but in doing so, have been stripped of the context necessary to understand the remarks. For example, we are told – "Tenniel was blessed with a photographic memory, undermining his early training and seriously restricting his artistic ambitions." Previous to this, we have been told that he seems to have been largely self-taught. And it's not at all clear how having a photographic memory undermines or restricts an artist, that is, this seems to be an opinion, from the source, rather than something that stands by itself as a fact. Perhaps in Engan's book this makes sense, but in this abbreviated form, it doesn't. Theonemacduff (talk) 19:04, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No Mention of Particular Influential works[edit]

The English page does not include any mention of the vast works depicting Irishmen as Ape-like creatures, nor any mention of racist cartoons like 'Justice'. He was deeply racist by modern standards and an effective propagandist, that unpopular part of his history is missing on the en page (I noticed something was up because I am visiting Germany, the de.wikipedia features a picture of 'Justice'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.118.86.63 (talk) 08:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2020[edit]

the date of death needs a correction 219.91.183.107 (talk) 12:53, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 14:31, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Private life?[edit]

Did he have one? Who was in it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.138.91.209 (talk) 07:29, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]