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Suggested merger with Lack of physical education[edit]

I think that someone should merge Lack of physical education with this article. I'm going to go WP:BOLD and act on this if no one comments here before May 7. Littleb2009 (talk) 19:45, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think there might be a better option than merging, due to article length. Comment if you have a better idea. I'm going to de-watchlist this article and leave it to you. littleb2009 (talk page) 19:20, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

PE requirements for K-12[edit]

At the end of the second paragraph I thought it may be informative to discuss the recommended PE guidelines provided by the American Heart Association and the National Association for Sport and Physical Education. For example,

The National Heart Association and the National Association for Sport and Physical Education recommend daily physical education from kindergarten through 12th grade. The minimum amount of physical education is typically set by state law, and only one state in the union requires PE daily K-12. Enrollment in Physical Education courses declines with older age, and only about 60% of High School students are enrolled in a PE course.

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MWGIB (talk) 03:44, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

History of P.E.[edit]

The nature, content and circumstances of training for children and people in general have changed througout time, shalln't this be adressed in here? I bet there are those who know a thing or two 'bout PE in the mid 19th century or in the 17th... How did it work in the 16th, 15th or 14th? There's a lot of data that can be added to this article if you can back it up...Undead Herle King (talk) 23:46, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article cleanup and organization[edit]

Anyone else notice the major cleanup this article needs? I don't have all that much time in the near future but I'll see what I can do. If anyone else would like to see what they can do, that'd be great. WM2 12:04, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly does need a cleanup. Also needs a removal of its US bias. It's written totally from a US perspective, with the rest of the world added as an afterthought. I'll play here a little for a while, but it may need a total rewrite, or a split. HiLo48 (talk) 07:51, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
One of the things that I noticed in this article are the interchaning use of the abbreviation. How should it be, PE or P.E.? To me it looks sloppy that the same section of the article contains both. I'd change it, but first I think it should be decided which to use? Traveling matt (talk) 01:15, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the article was widely written from a US perspective. In order to provide balance to the article, I have added content that is supported by global research efforts; including literature reviews and other sources that reflect a global perspective. I recommend continuing to add citations and references that support a global experience of physical education. I was also interested to learn that some countries are recently adopting a more westernized approach to physical education in schools. EllaJoseph1 (talk) 01:53, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

P.E. is not the only way this activity is named ...[edit]

I also noticed how American-centric this article is ... P.E. is called other things in other countries. For example in Northern Rhodesia (today's Zambia) and in South Africa where I was schooled, it was called P.T. (Physical Training). When my family emigrated to the United States in 1964, I noticed the Americans called it something else (P.E.). I would assume that in other British Commonwealth countries, it is likely to be similarly named as P.T. I would assume the appellation "P.T." having British origins. Amsterdave (talk) 10:05, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've just addressed that, with a reference link.Thomas Blomberg (talk) 09:08, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hatnote for Community episode by the same name[edit]

The episode of Community is called "Physical Education" if this article would not exist that article would take this place, since it obviously does, anyone searching for the episode by its title will be redirected here (capitalization wise). Thus a hatnote is appropriate to guide people to the correct article. See WP:SIMILAR and the entire purpose of hatnotes at WP:HAT. Xeworlebi (talk) 20:40, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, come on. Physical education is a well established, long-lasting term, with global meaning for much of the the worlds population. You want to clutter the top of its article with the name of one episode of a minor, no doubt ephemeral American TV show. It's trivial stuff for a tiny minority of people. As I asked in my Edit summary, are the show's viewers really that dumb? HiLo48 (talk) 22:23, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Do you not know what hat-notes are for? The name of the episode is the same as this article, therefor a hat-note is the proper way, unless you think this article should be moved to a disambiguated place and this page be turned in a disambiguation page. This has absolutely nothing to do with the content of either page, just that both exists, since this is the basic page name, a hat-note is required to find the episode article. This is one of the most basic purposes of hat-notes, please read up on hat-notes at WP:HAT. Xeworlebi (talk) 06:30, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I know what hatnotes are for. I also believe that notability should play a part here. It just seems ridiculous to have such a trivial item getting in the way of the start of an article on a major topic. Surely someone looking for an episode of a TV series would know to find it via the article for that series. I have NEVER thought of looking up an episode of a TV series by its name alone. HiLo48 (talk) 11:26, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, HiLo, but the hatnote is appropriate. If there were more articles called "Physical Education (foo)", we could have a disambiguation page. There aren't, so the access to the TV episode article has to be via this hatnote. There are lots of similarly daft-looking hatnotes around Wikipedia - where an obscure rock band or TV episode is the only other meaning of some serious word or phrase - and we just have to live with it. However often you remove the hatnote, I think you will find it gets replaced. (Don't forget WP:3RR). PamD (talk) 12:50, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
But I think I've improved the hatnote: using {{about}} rather than {{for}} allows us to let prospective readers of the main article bypass the rest of the hatnote. PamD (talk) 12:57, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I simply ask again. How stupid are the fans of this TV show. The hatnote is only appropriate if they are morons. HiLo48 (talk) 20:42, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not necessarily stupid at all. A perfectly intelligent people would follow this reasoning: I want to read about this episode of this show; I guess Wikipedia includes individual articles on episodes of this series; I know such an article will be at the title of the episode; if I type "Physical education" it will probably lead me to an article about gym but will also navigate me to the article I need either directly or via a disambiguation page. The difference is that this hypothetical intelligent fan of the show understands the navigation systems of Wikipedia. PamD (talk) 22:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gymnastics?[edit]

I don't understand how we can be using gymnastics synonymously with physical education? Gymnastics is an activity within physical education. This is like saying "Physical education or Tennis". Gymnastics is WITHIN physical education, and therefore, I cannot see how we can be using them synonymously. I think we need to remove this from the introduction of the article: "or gymnastics (gym or gym class)". Brock 009 (talk) 11:45, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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References[edit]

  1. ^ Guidelines for School and Community Programs to Promote Lifelong Physical Activity Among Young People"

Zero hour P.E.[edit]

Have merged content from mini stub Zero hour P.E. to the North America section, and redirected Zero hour P.E. here, not sure if a history merge is needed, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 20:10, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Blatant Copying[edit]

Hi all,

I'm not sure how there's been so many edits on this page without noticing the completely out of place British PE curriculum that is in the middle of the Europe section. I cannot imagine of a reason that the 2016 UK PE Curriculum belongs on a general page describing the function of physical education in general. Therefore, I will be deleting that section.

ChunyangD (talk) 06:36, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Overhauled[edit]

I overhauled the entire article in the past four hours. I redid the "trends" section, which did not make sense, and turned it into a pedagogy section (with citations and encyclopedic reading!). I then reordered the by location section and made it easier to follow. I also added some expansion tags, such as [who?][how?][clarification needed][better source needed]. Since the main issue with the article was disorganization and unencyclopedic prose, I'm going to remove the cleanup tag for now. However, the to-do list on the talk page is still valid and needed!

Jmaxx37 (talk) 05:50, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Removal of Health Education?[edit]

I am thinking about removing the reference to health education in the opening paragraph. Health education is not always a part of the physical education curriculum. While PE curriculum often addresses health concepts, it does not always address all health education standards. In some countries, health education is the responsibility of the entire school community, not a specialist. For this reason, I think it would be best to remove the last two sentences in the opening paragraph. Does anybody have a different opinion? EllaJoseph1 (talk) 02:29, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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