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Citing Encyclopedias[edit]

@Vif12vf: Hi. Small point that doesn't require all the following explanation, but here goes anyway. According to the guidelines at WP:RSPRIMARY you can cite another encyclopedia. But also according to MOS:LEAD the lead can be free of citations for non-controversial facts, especially ones that are supported by citations in the body. So it all comes down to WHY the IP editor wants the citation. They mentioned Klein's date of birth. I assume that is supported in the body, but haven't verified that yet. A previous editor had removed the middle initial "A" which was not supported by the encyclopedia citation that you removed. So I currently support your removal of the citation, but disagree with your reason, and should an editor want to use it to support some fact I would support that. I hope this makes sense. Cheers.DolyaIskrina (talk) 15:36, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The "Not to be Confused with …" hatnote is a joke[edit]

NOTE: See also Naomi Wolf talk.

The "Not to be Confused with Naomi Wolf" hatnote is a joke, and does not belong in this article. Sure, some people allegedly confused the two on Twitter (the premise of Klein's 2023 book), but that does not justify the inclusion of that tag: it's mentioned in the section discussing the book, and that's sufficient. Shankar Sivarajan (talk) 22:17, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. The only reason not to provide clarification and disambiguation is if it is somehow tendentious. Like if you were to say "John Doe" is not to be confused with "Party Clown". You are implying that John is a clown. Here however there is no pejorative I can think of. Klein certainly doesn't seem to have a problem with the association being called out. Until Klein's book came out, I myself had confused them. DolyaIskrina (talk) 02:32, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have no objections to mentioning this confusion in the lede. I only heard of either of these people because of this supposed confusability. Shankar Sivarajan (talk) 03:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]