Talk:Masayuki Fujio

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Google hits don't seem to work on judging which order since Wiki-related stuff clogs the "Fujio Masayuki" results. Therefore, I looked at English-language news media which suggested Western order. WhisperToMe 02:11, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Fujio's comments about the annexation of Korea[edit]

新世界へ keeps removing information about Fujio's controversial comments about Japan's annexation of Korea. The source I provided is a Chicago Tribune article titled, "JAPANESE OFFICIAL FIRED OVER KOREA, CHINA REMARKS." According to the source, the minister dismissed the Nanjing Massacre, and blamed Korea for Japan's annexation of Korea. User removed information about Korea, and said the remark was trivial and unimportant. In the view history, I reverted the user's edit, and provided statements from South Korean officials about how the comments could've jeopardized relations between South Korea and Japan. The minister was promptly fired for his comments about the Nanjing Massacre and Japan's annexation of Korea. User then removed the information again and said it was unimportant to paragraph. I don't see how this is unimportant, considering he was fired for it. DonaldObamaBiden (talk) 04:50, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Is this the only criticism you have of my edit? How about reinstating my edits with the Korea comments included? There's no reason to remove the wealth of improvements over this little thing. To talk about Fujio's nanjing comments does this paragraph "It is not murder under international law to kill in war. It is illogical and does not make sense to emphasize the number of people killed as so many thousands and discuss the incident on the basis of the number." not show him acknowledging the massacre? The controversy in my view is in his dismissal of it not in his denial which I have not seen him do in any of the sources. 新世界へ (talk) 06:59, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to remove this sentence in my original edit but didn't end up doing it, "He also equated Japanese visiting Yasukuni Shrine to Chinese visiting Confucian temples." This isn't sourced at all, what do you think about this? 新世界へ (talk) 07:09, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Only criticism? no, but it was a severe one. You've repeatedly removed information that was verifiable, neutral and without original research, which is vandalism under Wikipedia guidelines. Despite the source I provided and information I provided directly from the source, you promptly removed the information three times. You ignored the fact that the article mentioned Korea multiple times, and that he was fired for his comments about China and Korea. He denied the massacre by questioning the criminality of the event, and falsely comparing it to another unfortunate but completely unrelated event.

Here is what I propose: "In 1986, he was made Minister of Education by Prime Minister Nakasone, but he was soon fired by Nakasone after an interview with Bungei Shunju in which he made several controversial remarks about the Nanjing Massacre and Japan's annexation of Korea. In the interview, he dismissed the criminality of the Nanjing Massacre, claiming murder was a part of war and equating the Nanking Massacre with the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki by the United States in 1945. He also faulted Koreans for Japan's annexation of Korea." - It is verifiable, neutral, without original research and includes the information you've mentioned.

I didn't include the comparison between Confucian Temples and Yasukuni Shrine. A citation tag should be added, or it should be removed. DonaldObamaBiden (talk) 12:24, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"controversial remarks about the Nanjing Massacre and Japan's annexation of Korea" should be replaced with "controversial remarks about Japans role in World War II", the specific comments should then be included after. "equating" in the 2nd sentence should be changed to "compared", he never equated the two, "implied that if Japans war time actions were wrong then so were Americas" should then be added afterwards.

The korea comments are likely irrelevant to his firing as they only seemed to elicit a reaction in korea which at the time was a small and internationally unimportant country, his Nanjing comments seem to be the major source. If you're that bent about putting it in then that is fine.

"questioning the criminality of the event" does not mean denying the event, he fully recognized the massacre he simply dismissed it insensitively which is where the controversy lied. The categories: Nanjing Massacre deniers; Historical negationism then should be removed along with Anti-Korean sentiment in Japan. Get back to me about these suggestions in the mean time i'll remove the bit about the confucian temples and will remove a dublicate source thats unnecessarily used twice in the same paragraph. 新世界へ (talk) 12:00, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The korea comments are likely irrelevant to his firing as they only seemed to elicit a reaction in korea which at the time was a small and internationally unimportant country

WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH; I'm late, but you can't infer things like this, we make these calls using sources. toobigtokale (talk) 17:24, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]