Talk:Spatial disorientation

A fact from Spatial disorientation appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 August 2004. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that an amateur airplane pilot's spatial disorientation during flight can lead to an irreversible graveyard spiral?

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Quite a good article. I remember this is how JFK Jr.'s plane crashed, but the press didn't explain it this well. I'll probably link these two articles because they relate so closely together. I caught a few typos, but I'm not certain about "0.2 to 0.3 degrees per second per second" in the third paragraph. I wasn't sure whether it was an inadvertent repetition or refers to something I don't know about, so I left it. RivGuySC 23:52, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

degrees per second per second[edit]

The "degrees per second per second" is correct (not a typo). It means that, each second, the error in the perceived rate of turning increases by 0,2 to 0,3 degrees per second.

Simply said: Initially, the pilot's sense is correct: an error of 0 degrees per second. One second later, the pilot's sense differs from reality by 0,2 to 0,3 degrees per second. Another second later, the difference has increased to 0,4 to 0,6 degrees per second. And so on, until the crash.

questioning article length[edit]

Some of the government information just appended is interesting, but in my opinion it is too long and detailed for Wiki--an encyclopedia does not need to cover a subject like a textbook. Also, the wiki warning on excessive length now comes up on editing, so that's a pretty good sign. The new external links should stay, as quick access to further information is a valuable addition to any article, but the article should terminate after that section, or maybe just keep a picture or two, IMHO. RivGuySC 17:31, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I belive wikipedia definetely should cover all this, but I agree that the article is too long. This can be fixed by splitting it up and moving some information to other relevant pages, IMHO. Some text and images could probably be moved to graveyard spiral, semicircular canal, spatial orientation, Otolith organ, proprioception, etc... Password

not a condition only expirienced by aircraft pilots[edit]

Spatial disorientation happens in other situations. For instance, it is not uncoming if you are diving at night, in limited visibility or a depth in open water. The entry should be edited to make it more neutral, with a section that talks specifically about the condition in the context of aircraft pilots.

I am writing a paragraph which I will also put into the talk page for JFK Jr.'s plane crash.
Have you ever been to a haunted attraction which includes you walking on a short catwalk inside a display which is rotating (around an axis which is parallel to the direction you are walking in? You know the catwalk doesn't move (in lieu of you reading instruments in an airplane or flight simulator), yet your body tells you that you are rotating! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.102.56.94 (talk) 00:12, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

up down only?[edit]

author writes spatial disorientation is up-down only? there is such a thing as graveyard spin, which i dont think is up-down. check this page for info: http://www.atlasaviation.com/medical/spatial_disorientation_seat_of_pants.htm

Section for accidents[edit]

I think we should take the aviation accidents out of the "See also" section and combine them in their own section. The number of them is significant in itself (maybe should have its own list page?), and they overshadow the non-aviation links. Dcs002 (talk) 02:14, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lede[edit]

Spatial disorientation is often separated into 3 main categories by mishap investigators: Type 1: Unrecognized Type 2: Recognized Type 3: Incapacitating

This appears to have been bolted-on to the lede, with no connection to anything before or after. It is also not referenced in the article. It should either be fully explained or deleted. Valetude (talk) 12:14, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New lede 24/5/20[edit]

The old lede did not begin to summarise the article, and was too long anyway. I am suggesting that this article should concentrate on aircraft pilots, and that underwater spatial disorientation should be a separate article. For that reason, the title should be ‘Spatial disorientation (aerial)’ but I don’t know how to alter the title. Valetude (talk) 10:42, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

10 months on, to repeat the request, can anyone show me how to alter the page-title to 'Spatial disorientation (aerial)'? Valetude (talk) 17:45, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]