Talk:Thomas Galbraith, 2nd Baron Strathclyde

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Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:56, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Galbraith (Born 1960) → Thomas Galbraith, 2nd Baron Strathclyde — To conform to WP:NCPEER. Also, as per WP:QUALIFIER, years of birth should not normally be used for disambiguation. The subject of this article is known universally as Lord Strathclyde or Thomas Strathclyde, never Galbraith. The page was moved without discussion or edit summary. Can't move back due to a bot edit to fix a double redirect. JRawle (Talk) 01:35, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Strathclyde redirects to Baron Strathclyde so is presumably similarly ambiguous, but what about Thomas Strathclyde as the article title? Thomas Galbraith is ambiguous, but Thomas Strathclyde doesn't seem to be, so if it's in common use as you claim it might be a better choice. Andrewa (talk) 04:39, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pending any consensus on a change of article name, I have reverted the recent series of unilateral moves, so that the article is now at Thomas Galbraith, 2nd Baron Strathclyde, which AFAICS was the stable name since the article was created 7 years ago. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:56, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That guideline reads in part However, there are several exceptions: Some peers who are almost exclusively known by their personal names have their articles so titled, e.g. Bertrand Russell (not "Bertrand Russell, 3rd Earl Russell").... Another exception given by the guideline is Margaret Thatcher. The nominator claims that The subject of this article is known universally as Lord Strathclyde or Thomas Strathclyde (my emphasis), and the article suggests another similar name Tom Strathclyde, but I note that it's not Maggie Thatcher so probably not Tom. It seems to me that the intention of the guideline is to prefer a common name where one is prevalent, and that this may well be a case in point. Andrewa (talk) 10:16, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The intent of the guideline is quite clear ...peers, usually have their articles titled "Personal name,Peerage title", then there are the exceptions of which we are looking for people known 'almost exclusively' by their 'surname'. He's generally called LS and sometimes Tom S - which is not remotely close to meeting the exception clause Garlicplanting (talk) 15:45, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Retain stable name of Thomas Galbraith, 2nd Baron Strathclyde per long-standing and stable guideline WP:NCPEER. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:58, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Retain stable name of Thomas Galbraith, 2nd Baron Strathclyde per Bhg. Johnbod (talk) 13:39, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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30/8/2012 - edit[edit]

I have removed a significant section of the article as it seemed to be mostly supposition (and not a little bit of smear) rather than encyclopaedic. I regret I am unable to contribute something back to the article at this point. As a final note, my IP address for this edit is with East Midlands Trains (I will readily confess to being a nerd).

Yours;

Tim Oliver — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.113.183.8 (talk) 13:46, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]