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2011 series reviews[edit]
Geekenstein, Animation Infinity, Lost in Anime, Wrong Every Time, and Snap Thirty are used as sources for critical reviews on the 2011 anime. However, none of these sources are listed as reliable on WP:A&M/ORS. Are some of the reviewers working for other reliable sources or do they have some industry background? If no one is capable of assuring their reliability, I fear we should have to remove it. They were mainly added in March 2015 by 68.36.114.198 and Nninamori ([1] [2]), so if anyone of them want to argue, feel free to do it. Thanks, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 02:15, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Wrong Every Time (Nick Creamer) works for Anime News Network as a staff critic (ANN is listed as a reliable source for reviews). 50.247.27.100 (talk) 20:17, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. In this case, I think WET is fine then. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 21:48, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
Pronunciation[edit]
Previous unsourced archived opinionating here.
This article currently opens with
- Hunter × Hunter (pronounced "hunter hunter")
(a) Wikipedia's actual style is to use IPA (i.e., /ˈhʌntɚˈhʌntɚ/ or /ˈˈhʌntər.hʌntər/), although I understand simplifying that here.
(b) If we're simply repeating the name using the format read as if it were written "Hunter Hunter", though, then the words should be given capitalized and probably italicized as well.
(c) Multiple reliable citations very much needed.
Unsourced, this is essentially fringe page vandalism.
This is a ridiculously active topic anywhere the thing is mentioned online and, if anything, the majority position among native English speakers—which is far from a consensus—is in favor of reading it /ˈhʌntər.ɛks.ˈhʌntər/. Both of those pronunciations are perfectly common in actual use for a product that doesn't have a definitive authority to establish one or the other as correct. The writer at least once pronounced it in Japanese without the symbol but no one is presumably using his actual pronunciation of "Hunna/Hunna" as authoritative in English—although the anime-specific Wikia does lead with the Japanese name and romanji Hantā Hantā—and people involved in the English dub do read it with the /ɛks/ sounded. We can pretty confidently ignore more fringe ideas like "Hunter-Cross-Hunter", "Hunter-by-Hunter", "Hunter-Times-Hunter", "Hunter-Hugs-Hunter", "Hunter-no-Hunter", "Hunter Squared" but at least the "Hunter Hunter" and "Hunter X Hunter" readings are perfectly common and valid. — LlywelynII 12:39, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
See also the years-long slow-rolling edit war in the page's edit history, the most recent clearly marked as such less than a month ago. — LlywelynII 12:48, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- I don't have the Shone Jump issue cited in the article to verify the statement that the "×" in the title is silent, nor I was able to find scans of the issue online, but I added two citations from two published authors stating that the "×" is silent. I'm pretty sure that they are more reliable and have more weight than whatever have been discussed in some forums out there. By the way, if the Shonen Jump (published by Viz Media) stated that the "×" is silent, and both TV series were licensed by Viz Media, it would be weird if they ever have formally pronounced the title as "Hunter 'eks' Hunter"; at least I couldn't find at the moment some video or audio from the people directly involved in the English dub calling it like that, but I found a promo from Toonami (available on Youtube) where they call it "Hunter Hunter"; I suppose that they directly asked Viz Media how the title should be correctly pronounced. Xexerss (talk) 16:30, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- I own the actual Shonen Jump issue and am the one who cited it. The quote is "not 'Hunter 'ex' Hunter', or even 'Hunter 'times' Hunter', but just simply 'Hunter Hunter'". The furigana in the title's logo tells Japanese people how to pronounce it, and the English publisher told us to pronounce it identically to that. There is nothing to discuss. People unknowingly mispronouncing it has no bearing on this article. Xfansd (talk) 17:17, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- Actors in show pronounce it https://comicbook.com/anime/amp/news/hunter-x-hunter-correct-pronunciation-anime-manga/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddcome (talk • contribs) 08:17, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- And? that doesn't mean anything; the official publisher indicated how the title should be pronounced. The way the actors pronounce the title doesn't make it official or anything like that. Edit: It fact, the article only says that Kaiji Tang pronounces the title like that, so it does make the report even less relevant. Xexerss (talk) 08:21, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Ddcome: I cannot assume good faith in your edits. Your behavior makes me think that you're trolling. The only thing that you have to support your claim is the tweet from one voice actor who said that he calls the series "hunter ex hunter", that, against the three sources cited in the article (from the own publisher and two published authors) confirming that the '×' is silent. If you don't have something more concrete to refute this, I kindly ask you to stop your edits. Xexerss (talk) 08:23, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- And? that doesn't mean anything; the official publisher indicated how the title should be pronounced. The way the actors pronounce the title doesn't make it official or anything like that. Edit: It fact, the article only says that Kaiji Tang pronounces the title like that, so it does make the report even less relevant. Xexerss (talk) 08:21, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Actors in show pronounce it https://comicbook.com/anime/amp/news/hunter-x-hunter-correct-pronunciation-anime-manga/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddcome (talk • contribs) 08:17, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- I own the actual Shonen Jump issue and am the one who cited it. The quote is "not 'Hunter 'ex' Hunter', or even 'Hunter 'times' Hunter', but just simply 'Hunter Hunter'". The furigana in the title's logo tells Japanese people how to pronounce it, and the English publisher told us to pronounce it identically to that. There is nothing to discuss. People unknowingly mispronouncing it has no bearing on this article. Xfansd (talk) 17:17, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- And we record usage and authorities but don't pretend either is definitive and the other is wrong. Both occur and should be noted. In any case, the formatting remains completely wrong even if people have issues with using the thing's Japanese name and the Japanese template in the lead. — LlywelynII 12:58, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- People who still call it "Hunter eks Hunter" is because they don't know or plainly don't care how the author or the publisher intended the pronunciation. It shouldn't be noted, because is simply incorrect. We have three sources, also in Japanese they clearly call it "hantā hantā", not "hantā ekusu hantā"; in English, officially they always pronounce it as "Hunter Hunter", so what else do we need to end this discussion? People can call it as they want, but that doesn't mean that any pronunciation is correct. Saying that it is correct because some people in some forums or some voice actors pronounce the '×' as an 'X' would be spreading false information. Xexerss (talk) 16:51, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yhea 196.24.72.25 (talk) 19:18, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
- People who still call it "Hunter eks Hunter" is because they don't know or plainly don't care how the author or the publisher intended the pronunciation. It shouldn't be noted, because is simply incorrect. We have three sources, also in Japanese they clearly call it "hantā hantā", not "hantā ekusu hantā"; in English, officially they always pronounce it as "Hunter Hunter", so what else do we need to end this discussion? People can call it as they want, but that doesn't mean that any pronunciation is correct. Saying that it is correct because some people in some forums or some voice actors pronounce the '×' as an 'X' would be spreading false information. Xexerss (talk) 16:51, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- And we record usage and authorities but don't pretend either is definitive and the other is wrong. Both occur and should be noted. In any case, the formatting remains completely wrong even if people have issues with using the thing's Japanese name and the Japanese template in the lead. — LlywelynII 12:58, 12 November 2022 (UTC)