Talk:Lemon (disambiguation)

2005

This is from the "The Market for Lemons" page:

"The term "lemon," meaning a defective (typically used) car, did not enter the language of economics as a result of this paper. Instead, it came from the famous "Lemon" Volkswagen advertisement of the 1960s."

Which is correct?

TaintedMustard 08:25, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Well, it doesn't look good when one page links to another that contradicts it. I'll remove the "entered the language" part but keep the link to the article.

TaintedMustard 14:57, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I've heard that a lemon is also a Russian term for a million dollars. Is this true? And if it is, does it merit mention on this page? --137.122.200.45 (talk) 16:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Edits made Mar 18 2008

Performed disambiguation clean-up as per MOS:DAB

• Added Wiktionary link
• Removed links to 2 songs titled "Lemon Tree"; there are already links to them on the Lemon Tree dab page
• Also moved link for Lemon Myrtle to the Lemon Tree dab page since it seemed more logical
• Created Lemon (surname) page and moved people with the name "Lemon" to that page.
• Added links to Lemon (surname) and Lemon Tree to "See also" section.
• Removed "See also The Market for Lemons" from the entry for lemon (automobile). The "Market" link is mentioned on lemon (automobile)
• Also removed the following for they do not belong on a "Lemon" disambiguation page. These are topics which include the word "lemon", but are not senses of of the word "lemon" that correspond to encyclopedic topics whose articles could logically be titled simply "Lemon":
  • lemon battery, is a battery made using a lemon.
  • Lemon Demon, Neil Cicierega's internet band.
  • Salts of Lemon, a bleaching agent made from Potassium oxalate (and the links were both red anyway...)

Marchije (talk) 20:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: consensus was for no move JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 09:41, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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Lemon (disambiguation) → Lemon — Move disambiguation page to base name Una Smith (talk) 15:29, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

• Lemon → Lemon (fruit) Citrus limon

"Lemon" usually refers to the fruit, but Wikipedia content related to the fruit is distributed among several articles. --Una Smith (talk) 15:29, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose Isn't the citrus limon the main form of lemon? The fruit is surely the primary search target. Also, if you're suggesting that Wikipedia articles are about the fruit, then the proposed taget Lemon (fruit) doesn't really make sense. 84.92.117.93 (talk) 19:03, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

The fruit and the article Lemon are not one and the same. I am finding way too many incoming links to Lemon that intend one of the other articles about lemons. --Una Smith (talk) 21:59, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose, the fruit is the primary use. – ukexpat (talk) 21:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Something was wrong with the bot ... the movereq template looks okay but the bot-generated summary is mixed up. I have fixed it, I hope. Also, I think 84.92.117.93 is correct: the article is about the species, not the fruit. If (when) someone removes tangents concerning derivative products, what will remain is a species page. --Una Smith (talk) 22:11, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't completely understand. The movereq doesn't list Citrus limon, your intended target for Lemon. It's slightly weird how one of the two is listed on top in the text and another in the {{movereq}} and on WP:RM, but not sure whether that's your problem. Ucucha 22:19, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

The RM bot notice below suggests something is wrong, yes. I changed the movereq template now; hope that sorts things out for the bot. Ucucha 22:22, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

And on the merits of this: I think WP:FLORA suggests having an article about the plant on Citrus limon and an article about the fruit at lemon. It is clearly the primary topic. Ucucha 22:25, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose. The fruit/plant is the primary meaning. WP:FLORA does not require separate articles for the fruit and the plant and separation not necessary in this case (the article is only 15K). — AjaxSmack 04:57, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose the fruit is primary meaning, and whatever the incoming links say, Wikipedia is not representative of common usage, since many common topics get deleted from Wikipedia due to (A) not a recipe book (B) not a compendium of all human work and knowledge no matter how itrivial (C) etc. The use of incoming links to justify renaming the primary meaning to a dab is not supportable in ever. 76.66.197.17 (talk) 05:16, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

• Support - in the interests of minimising the use of pages with parenthetical explanatory bits in the article names, and per WP:FLORA naming. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:29, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose. A lemon is a fruit; that is a compelling primary use. So long as the fruit and the plant taxon are treated in a single article, the article should be at Lemon. If you want to split the article into a fruit article and a taxon article, go right ahead: but leave the fruit article at Lemon. Hesperian 06:50, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose. The fruit is the primary use, and the article should be about the fruit. Citrus limon should be a separate article about the plant. If they are not ready to split, the article should be at Lemon.--Curtis Clark (talk) 14:50, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose. The fruit is the primary use. Kingdon (talk) 16:35, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose. Intuitively obvious primary topic and no evidence presented to the contrary. older ≠ wiser 17:06, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

• Comment - Una Smith seems to suggest that the current article Lemon (to be renamed Citrus limon) is not an article on the fruit, which is what she wants fixed. The article certainly looks like it's about both the plant and the fruit (including culinary use). Is there information about the fruit which is only in other articles, and which should be moved to this main article? That seems a more user-friendly solution. 86.178.229.168 (talk) 19:14, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

• Comment. I reorganized the subject headings, but left the cleanup flag intact. The changes I made do not resolve this discussion, but the page does look different. Obankston (talk) 07:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose with an essentially "not now" reason, to start with. There seems to be some concern about organizational structure, which should be addressed prior to considering any RM's. I do hav eto say as well that the "Intuitively obvious primary topic" !votes above are fairly compelling as well.
  — V = I * R (talk to Ohms law) 07:56, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose Don't be so bloody ridiculous! How many people going into their local shop would ask for a Citrus limon? They want lemons, which is exactly what this ludicrous proposal deserves! Skinsmoke (talk) 12:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose A lemon is a lemon. Clear case of primary use for the fruit, although it should be noted that in the colloquial Welsh of north Wales a lemon can also mean a fruitcake... Enaidmawr (talk) 23:49, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose We are ordinary people. We are not biologists. --supernorton 09:09, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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