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worldwide sales?[edit]

The total claimed sales are 43 million, but the certified sales only sum up to 21.8 million, just over half of that. So, where does the other half come from? There are missing sales figures from Latin America, Asia and most of Europe (all but UK, Germany & Denmark). I don't think they could cover over 20 million of sales. If they would, the album would be in lists like List of best-selling albums in Brazil, List of best-selling albums in France, List of best-selling albums in Italy and List of best-selling albums in Japan, which are among the biggest of those markets. 85.76.71.5 (talk) 06:18, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Certifications don't necessarily reflect actual sales. Piriczki (talk) 14:32, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So where do those come from? My guess was sales, but apparently not. And I would think that there is no reason for anyone to give lower certifications than the actual sales. Here, in Finland, an album sometimes gets certifications by shippings only, the actual sales may turn out be 1/10 of the certification. 212.50.203.198 (talk) 19:28, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about other countries, but in the United States the Recording Industry Association of America presents certified record awards based on wholesale sales. The RIAA does not, however, keep a running tally of an album's sales and awards are only presented when the artist or record company applies for the award (with documentation). Bat out of Hell was last certified 17 years ago and considering Steve Popovich's lawsuits over royalties since then I doubt Sony would be interested in disclosing any more sales figures. The certifications in this article only cover six other countries and some of those certifications might not include sales back to 1977 and the US figure doesn't include any sales since 2001. So the certifications don't necessarily capture all of the sales. This is true of many older albums. Piriczki (talk) 21:15, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Odd claim then quote?[edit]

Steinman's songs for Bat Out of Hell are personal but not autobiographical: I never thought of them as personal songs in terms of my own life but they were personality songs.

Doesn't the quote directly disprove the claim, says it is personal, then the quote says it is not? Auto98uk (talk) 02:03, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Debut Album[edit]

How can it be the debut album of Meat Loaf, when he released a album before? It also wasn't the first album Jim Steinman had worked on, since he was involved for example with Yvonne Ellimann's Food for Thought album. 2003:ED:2F0A:E83F:A00A:F0BE:BC54:E59E (talk) 18:20, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]