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WikiProject Texas[edit]

I'm sorry. I did read your post. Most WikiProjects move slowly, for instance ther hasn't been activity at U.S. regions for over a month. I have seen your post and have begun research unfortunately I have been sick, then transferred over to a new computer, ect. so you see I have the interest its just a bad time.

My only concern with your proposal is that it could be interpreted as setting Texas apart from the South. Having Texas included in the South is something that people, at least in my part of Texas, have often had to fight for both with Texans usually from farther west and Southerns usually form South Atlantic State. We have been included and I don't wan to do anything to jepordize it. I'll try to dedicate more time to the article proposal by cutting info form other articles. It will help to flesh it out, of course ultimatley it will need a coherent style.

If you wish to make the project a notice board why not merely add the articles in question to the preexisting Southern Board i.e. History of Texas and Spindletop.

Also I think it would be nice at the Southern obard if we listed Southern articles that are already featured as example such as Galveston Hurricane of 1900 and Marshall, Texas. This could also help us maintain thier featured status. -JCarriker 14:23, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)

thanks for heads up[edit]

Cyrius, thanks for the heads up, I've responded to the VP comment. Fuzheado | Talk 03:22, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

0101CHANyf, etc.[edit]

Cool. I had noticed Fuzheado's 7/2003 project listed at Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects, and that there are two current UHK ones also listed there, but the articles by the 0101s don't seem to match the assignment lists given (although the overall topics seem fairly similar). I think I'm just going to try to collect contribution lists from all that I can find from the articles of the ones I've found's histories, and go thru them for grammar and format as I have time, and hopefully Jiang or somebody can help with the transliteration where it's missing. Of the ones I've seen, they seem quite encyclopedic, thorough, and generally well worded and structured. I probably shouldn't have even mentioned the Dartmouth incident, since this is clearly a different situation--they seem to have been given much more effective guidance about what and how to contribute. Niteowlneils 03:38, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Please unprotect Kosovo article. I promise not to revert it any more. Nikola 20:37, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

You have my explicit permission to ban me if I do :) Nikola 20:45, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, though I don't think that I didn't "behave" :/ Nikola 20:50, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Southeast Texas article[edit]

I have made the Southeast Texas page, formerly a redirect to East Texas into a redirect. Its nothing but a stub right now, but I though you, might have an interest in contributing to it. I have also created a sub stub on South Texas and added more regions to the Template:Texas. Still collecting info for History of Texas, will contirbute at the temp page you created as soon as my initial research is complete. -JCarriker 05:07, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)

Include your view in the article, in a NPOV way of course. As a fellow "provincial", I know how you feel. -JCarriker 05:29, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)

There you go, I knew we'd need the disambig!--Keith Edkins 10:35, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Nacho king Vfd[edit]

I have rewritten this article. Will you please review it, I am having difficulty initaiting a discussion about the article on its Vfd page. Please also review the page history to see how it has progressed. Thanks Cyrius, - Jay/JCarriker 23:40, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC) P.S. Great work on Southeast Texas!

I thought you might be interested in commenting on this. Sorry if you've already seen it.

"The Game"[edit]

You should totally keep my edit about the Mike Church game. It is totally legitimate. We play that game all the time too. See http://benjiesque.livejournal.com for more info. --Clydeiii 00:18, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I'm not sure it qualified as "no definition/context". It said it was an Icelandic nu-metal/hip-hop band, which is true. Not that I'm mourning the loss of that useless article, mind you. Gwalla | Talk 03:02, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Anthony and speedy deletions[edit]

You bet. I figure his inbox will be overflowing soon.

RickK 18:28, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)

Ooops[edit]

Ooops! Thanks very much, Cyrius, I really appreciate it. I'll go fix the link on Geogre's page right away.--[[User:Bishonen|Bishonen (Talk)]] 22:39, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

More ooops[edit]

Jeez, a guy goes away for a few days and ya gotta retrain him. I think I still need a vacation.  :^) Thanks for the chuckle, ya nut. - Lucky 6.9 07:43, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Ah![edit]

Ah! I didn't know nytimes looked at Wikipedia talk pages. Too bad they picked that kind of time though...the database problems made it very difficult to revert, since I had to go through and manually remove offensive entries (I couldn't access old revisions :(). By the way the article is written, it seems like nytimes is assuming that vandalism will never go through...of course I expected the page to be vandalized, that's why it was reverted every time. Oh well, at least I got quoted :D -[[User:Frazzydee|Frazzydee|]] 21:08, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

BTW, thanks for sharing! I appreciate it. -[[User:Frazzydee|Frazzydee|]] 21:10, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Ago Gratias![edit]

Salve, Cyrius!
Thanks very much for your reply on WP:RD re the vandalism to the shortcut template. Ave! PedanticallySpeaking 18:47, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)


Futurama[edit]

I really question whether an encyclopedia needs an exhaustive biographical entry for nearly every character in a TV show. Fry's entry, for instance, is about 750 words. It could be precised in less than 100 words and incorporated in the main entry for Futurama, which indeed already contains the following entry: "Philip J. Fry ("Fry") - was cryogenically frozen just after New Year, 2000, and thawed out in time to usher in the year 3000."

What more do we need to know? --Minority Report 17:09, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Banana Crime Family[edit]

Can you please delete the entry on banana crime family? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_crime_family Thanks -Cookiemobsta

CSDs?[edit]

Pardon me a moment, but in the news section of the Village Pump, you said the following:

"Excluding blatant CSDs, new articles on EN outweigh deletions 50 to 1."

What are CSDs? Denelson83 04:45, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Oh, right. Thanks. Denelson83 04:53, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Penn State[edit]

Thanks a ton for taking care of that history merge. It's always nice to find out that it's a piece of cake to solve these problems. Spangineer 19:33, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)

Sealand - what did you do with the unique material in the German branch of the aritcle?[edit]

Okay, so you preserved the Talk page on the German branch of the Sealand article, but what did you do with the unique information contained in the article itself that does not directly relate to Rough Tower? I am referring to the information concerning the Berlin operation and German lands with ties to SHAEF, etc. MPLX/MH 19:11, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

You just deleted it? The majority take was to merge the contents which were original in content and context since they do not appear on any other site. I would have gone along with merge but to just delete seems very POV - especially since the German branch have the principalityofsealand.com name. If you send it to me, what do you expect me to do with it since so many of the people attacking the site never contributed information and a number of them have a POV religious sort of fanatical bias towards this subject? Even though I am the only person who has direct knowledge regarding the British government position, the fanatics don't want to see a record of the law either. So please tell me how do you expect this material to appear if mob mentality does not want it to appear? I thought that this was an encyclopedia of knowledge, not a propaganda device. MPLX/MH 00:18, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Obviously this has created a make-work situation. Why not a) create a separate article for material that in no way relates to the orginal (like the details concerning SHAEF, etc.), or b) merge the unduplicated contents in with the original. If I do this now that everyone has jumped up and down (without offering to help), then the same trouble makers will resume their tiresome nonsense. If you do it at least they will have a different target to attack. (A little Wiki humor from a worn out editor.) MPLX/MH 16:22, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Christology[edit]

Couldn't the history just be merged?

Tarish Language[edit]

Thanks. I wasn't sure. -Ms. Greenberg 23:53, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the summary I gave was only a small part of the nonsense of the first version. RickK 23:57, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

There did seem to have been a lot of work involved. I mean, they uploaded pictures and everything! RickK 00:01, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for the fast response to my question. You folks sure know how to make someone feel welcome.Hydnjo 02:29, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)


List of articles with VfD[edit]

Yes, I'm very interested. Because the downloadable database is a few days old, I write scripts to read off the category or links-to pages which cap out at 500, it appears. I assume I could run a SQL query, but I don't currently know how (I should look through the admin pages). I'd like a list of all articles with {{vfd}} or the VfD category. Cool Hand Luke 06:16, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Are you getting these from queries you've run locally on the database dump? I've been meaning to do that myself, but I haven't installed MySQL on this windows laptop, and my Linux box needs work. At any rate, if you have a list of them, I could compare the names against current content of VfD and VfD/Old. Cool Hand Luke 06:43, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Any user subpage is good. Cool Hand Luke 07:05, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

OK, using the list you gave me, I produced output and checked the pages by hand, appending this list to User:Niteowlneils/LostVFDs#Distilled list. There are about 45 of these, although some are unresolved VfDs. A large chunk of articles weren't showing up before because they used an ancient VfD template from before categories, so this is a great improvement. Finding possible deletion debates for these old VfDs would be difficult: we'd have to go through the VfD archives history. Probably, it'd be easier to just all of them. Cool Hand Luke 08:19, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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I don't really understand your meaning... Everyking 06:39, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Well, yes, the situation is absolutely dismal, and it seems my reputation, if I ever had one, is ruined. But, you know, I think we'll get it worked out eventually. You can give your thoughts on the talk page, I'd welcome that. Right now I'm working on what I think may be a compromise acceptable to everyone. Everyking 06:48, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yes, you can make fun of my taste in music, although my tastes also tend towards '90s alternative stuff, not just current pop/rock—I'm a big fan of the Pixies and Frank Black in particular. I suppose I'm a little schizophrenic like that. Everyking 07:02, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Cur table into MySQL[edit]

Now that I've overcome the de-compression problem, and have a 1.7G cur table dump file (I renamed it cur.txt), I am still having trouble getting it into MySQL, as you have apparently successfully done. I used "LOAD DATA INFILE 'cur.txt' into table cur ;", but it only imported 8,000 records. What command did you use, or do you have any other suggestions. Thanks. Niteowlneils 16:50, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Questionable Behavior[edit]

User bnguyen has been removing all edits to the pages of Vietnamese & southeast Asian royal pretenders showing their questionable legitimacy and doubts about their standing. Most of this was previously fought out with user jimmyvanthach, tranvanba and celindgren, all of whose behavior has caused them to be banned from editing these articles. I find it highly suspect that there are now suddenly 'others' coming in making the exact same changes, pov refrences etc, without posting any credible evidence to back up their claims.

However, what is most disturbing to me, as I have never been one to put information about myself on-line, is the attempt by jimmyvanthach, now taken up by bnguyen, to assert that I am an American college student who was removed/quit their farcial little group. bnguyen even claims to have contacted the college of an old professor of mine to find "proof" of my identity. I find this extremely offensive, not only to myself but to the other individuals whose names they have posted here when it is quite outside of the subject matter (the lack of proof of the claims of these individuals). Considering that accusations of identity-theft have already been made regarding this group, I take this very seriously. It is fear of this that has caused me to never put any personal info online. bnguyen has repeatedly posted my alleged "identity" on edit summaries (not talk pages where it could be refuted) and I consider this totally improper. Any discussion about me should be about what I have posted, about proving what claims have been made, not about who said what. It is unfair to me as well as to these other people who have nothing to do with editing wikipages. 216.183.37.69 05:46, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)NguyenHue


Consistency on Deletions[edit]

I see you deleted the Tammy Imre article citing "consensus" on VfD...how large a majority counts as "consensus"?I continue to feel that there needs to be a consistent way of treating such articles,and if Debra Lafave and Mary Kay Letourneau get articles and don't get deleted,after similar notoriety for similar offenses,something is out of whack.As I noted in VfD I think the best course would be to make them all case histories in an article that puts them in the context of the offense,but I'm at a loss to see why any are more deserving of articles than others.--Louis E./12.144.5.2/le@put.com 12.144.5.2 19:16, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

What Is the Proper Language?[edit]

In the case of Burma, the last king died in 1916, for Vietnam the last king died in 1997. When someone claiming royal status, calling themselves things like Crown Prince and Prince Regent, and give out orders of knighthood and aristocratic titles, what exactly are they to be called if not pretenders? I was advised on the talk page for Shwebomin that the best thing to do would be to detail the problems with the claims of these people, showing exactly how and why they cannot be what they claim. These were repeatedly deleted so that only one side of the story was being told. I hardly consider that fair, nor do I see why I am being asked to disprove the claims of others. If you make the claim, it should be up to you to prove it. I also think it is totally inappropriate to discuss anyone or anyone's background other than the subject of the article in question. NguyenHue 03:01, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)NguyenHue

Check Edit History[edit]

On every page formerly edited by user:jimmyvanthach who has been banned for POV pushing, is now having all of his edits restored by userBnguyen without providing any proof for their claims, simply adopting Jimmy's old tactic of posting it all as fact then challenging others to prove them wrong. On the edit summaries of all of these pages Southeast Asia Imperial & Royal League and British Committee for Free Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Burma and on the Duncharris talk page, Bnguyen has been trying to convince everyone that I am some former royal worshipper of this pretended prince. He has not touched any of the discussion boards, and has even done some behavior I would consider almost 'stalker-like'. I never post personal information about myself on-line, and I fail to see how it is permissable for this guy who obviously just joined to pick up pushing the same POV jimmyvanthach, tran_van_ba and celindgren have been banned for pushing, to try and make my name public, or the name of this kid he is telling everyone I am. It certainly has nothing to do with describing his edit reversions, or to anything in the article. Trying to make my name public, whether I'm Joe Cupcake, Nguyen Doo Doo or Harry, Moe or Curly, should not be tolerated unless I do it myself; and certainly not in an edit summary where it cannot be challenged or refuted. NguyenHue 06:10, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)NguyenHue

Article Licensing[edit]

Hi, I've started the Free the Rambot Articles Project which has the goals of getting users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to...

  1. ...all U.S. state, county, and city articles...
  2. ...all articles...

using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) version 1.0 and 2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the GFDL (which every contribution made to Wikipedia is licensed under), but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles (See the Multi-licensing Guide for more information). Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. So far over 90% of people who have responded have done this.

Nutshell: Wikipedia articles can be shared with any other GFDL project but open/free projects using the incompatible Creative Commons Licenses (e.g. WikiTravel) can't use our stuff and we can't use theirs. It is important to us that other free projects can use our stuff. So we use their licenses too.

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} template (or {{MultiLicensePD}} for public domain) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} with {{MultiLicensePD}}. If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know at my talk page what you think. It's important to know, even if you choose to do anything so I don't keep asking. -- Ram-Man 16:25, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)


Southeast Asia Imperial And Royal League[edit]

Before you put a lock on the article, NGUYENHUE then changed it when you forgot to put the lock back on. please see the history.

You actually locked the personal opinion of NGUYENHUE he is a expelled member of the NGUYEN DYNASTY

EVIDENCE BELOW.

please re-list Southeast Asia Imperial And Royal League with the first lock that you had intiated.--Jimmyvanthach 15:15, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)





FRUAD BY NGUYENHUE aka JOSEPH CRISP STOLEN MATERIAL FROM NGUYEN DYNASTY OF VIETNAM----------------------------------------

EVIDENCE BELOW[edit]

1. NguyenHue is a expelled member from the Nguyen Dynasty staff *About the Author Joseph Crisp aka NguyenHue

2. He was told by the Nguyen Dynasty to shut down his website and return all work that belonged to the Nguyen Dynasty.

3. The Copyright holder for the Cuong De biography is the Nguyen Dynasty noted here The Revolutionary Prince Cuong-De

4. This is true because NguyenHue points out above that the biography belongs to his Geocites site The Revolutionary Prince Cuong-De

5. He was instructed by the Nguyen Dynasty to again close his website but simply chose to delete photos of Prince Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh and all information related to Nguyen Dynasty because he was EXPELLED and kept WITHOUT PERSMISSION all biographies and research that was submitted by Nguyen Dynasty Scholars.

6. As shown here: H.I.H. Prince Nguyen-Phuc Buu Chanh and Nguyen Dynasty delegation with British government officials and princes of the royal houses of Laos and Burma at a meeting of the British Committee for Free Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Burma in Westminster Palace, London

7. HIH Prince Buu Chanh giving a speech before assembled guests and dignitaries after solemn ceremonies in honor of the national hero and saint, Fleet Admiral-Marshal Tran Hung Dao

8. Nguyen Thi Linh (my own 'Momma Linh') sit back and watch the chaos of present opening unfold NOTE: Joseph Crisp sitting next to Nguyen Thi Linh she is also listed as a supporter on his other website that is a TEXAS based website where Joseph Crisp goes to university and lives. *About the Author Joseph Crisp

9. NGUYEN THI LINH from Texas listed as a supporter for the expelled group from the Nguyen Dynasty that is based in TEXAS with please note the bottom of the website that shows support also again NGUYEN TRUNG DE as a supporter.

10. Contributors and Supporters of this Website: Kong Jing Xue, Nguyen Trung De, Nguyen Van Tuan, Kong Zhishu, Nguyen Thi Linh

11. ALSO NOTE that his own family business is a supporter Crisp Conservation Service of their expelled group

I hope this sheds light on this indiviual NGUYENHUE that is an expelled member of the Nguyen Dynasty I have found this out doing a little research on the issue over the internet of NGUYENHUE JOSEPH CRISP as his other workers NGUYEN THI LINH & NGUYEN TRUNG DE and the rest supporters in Texas that have committed FRUAD against the NGUYEN DYNASTY.--Jimmyvanthach 15:15, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Vfd Old[edit]

I'll try... :) JOHN COLLISON [ Ludraman] 09:32, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Li'l Brudder[edit]

Hi. I noticed you deleted Li'l Brudder and Tendafoot from the Homestar page. That's fine with me; I only merged them in because they previously each had their own page, which was ridiculous. However, now we have two redirects that make no sense. I was thinking of putting them on redirects for deletion, but that sort of opens up a back door deletion which by-passes VfD (though come to think of it that might not always be a bad thing). Anyway, I'd like to keep them off VfD, where the Hometar obsessees will whine about the "Pokemon precedent" and whatnot. Is ignoring it and hoping no one cares that there's two meaningless redirects the best move? I imagine it's only a matter of time before someone notices they're gone and reinserts them one place or the other anyway. Also, as one-time "characters" don't need mention, isn't the Prince of Town one as well? Shouldn't he be included in the King of Town article? -R. fiend 19:42, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project[edit]

Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

RFC pages on VfD[edit]

Should RFC pages be placed on VfD to be deleted? I'm considering removing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Slrubenstein, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jwrosenzweig and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/John Kenney from WP:VFD. Each of them was listed by CheeseDreams. Your comments on whether I should do this would be appreciated. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:30, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hurricane Opal[edit]

Oh...well, adjusted without inflation you would be right about it being the fifth costliest hurricane. I've gone back to the 1995 Atlantic hurricane season and made that clear that it's not adjusted for inflation, and also added information with inflation. bob rulz 05:13, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. However, since there is no inflation to adjust in the 2004 season, the wunderground link would make it seem that Jeanne, Ivan, Charley, and Frances that they would now be above Opal even when not adjusted...so I think that would make it 9th now. I've made that clear in the 1995 article.

Southeast Asia Imperial & Royal League[edit]

-Prince Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh is listed on [Who's Who of Asian Americans®]

-Would you update Southeast Asia Imperial Royal League, to the last revert to show the correct status of his title. Bnguyen 08:00, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

book cite[edit]

-would a book title and page cite suffice ?

-The "group" you describe in the political wing of the Nguyen Dynasty, that has visited the Vietnamese Community thoughout the country, and universities.

-Prince Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh has visited Cornell University in New York, USA

-* Exiled Prince of Vietnam Offers Political Ideology Bnguyen 08:11, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

NOAA Public Domain Images[edit]

Cyrius, Where exactly did you find the public domain images for the hurricanes? I am trying to find images for the tornado articles from List of tornadoes and tornado outbreaks.

BigT27 01:35, 2004 Dec 12 (UTC)

Iwo, Nigeria page[edit]

I've deleted your duplicate page at Iwo, Nigeria and created a redirect to Iwo. There's no pressing need to move the page that I can see, so I didn't.

-- Cyrius|✎ 03:06, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dowcet"

Oh no! There was a page at "Iwo, Nigeria" ABOUT Iwo, Nigeria and I was in the process of moving it... I guess it's been destroyed? That sucks. Sorry I'm pretty new at this...

Ah, thanks for that, I'll read up about moving pages and make sure I think it through before I do it next time :) --Brian Z 03:19, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Vector space[edit]

I was going to try and get the rewrite done today, but I hit an impasse. Would you rather a layman's introduction to the vector space axioms seperately or try and explain what each axiom is about as it is introduced? I thought doing the former might be a little patronizing to the reader. Let me know what you think :) Dysprosia 08:53, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Hello Cyrius -- The article for Spotswood High School has been heavily expanded since you originally voted. I hope you'll agree that its "BEEFSTEW" score has been raised significantly. If you wouldn't mind, please take a moment to review the changes and reconsider your vote. Cheers -- [[User:GRider|GRider\talk]] 18:26, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Page moving[edit]

Thanks. I'm using the cologne skin because it's lighter, so I don't have that option, or at least I don't see it. I was under the impression that only administrators could move. I understand now that this is a false impression. Will do so in the future. Thanks. Kevin Baas | talk 03:35, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

Columbia Redirects[edit]

Why did you do that? I have to revert some of those because they were going to be expanded after the 22nd. I am not angry, I just find if you post on the article's talk page a few hours before you redirect that, it is courteous. You have been around wikipedia longer so I defer to you, but that is the way I do it. --[[User:Ctrl build|Ctrl_buildtalk ]] 05:12, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

  • I conceed to your view then. --[[User:Ctrl build|Ctrl_buildtalk ]] 20:13, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • Well, after the concession we can sign the peace treaty. You get Westipedia, while I retain Van Wiki --[[User:Ctrl build|Ctrl_buildtalk ]] 01:40, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
      • Thanks. Well I will talk to you later, but I am amazed that somene picked up the school of social work article this quick. Whoever did it did a nice job, and I checked, no copy vio-- well at least I think no copy vio. --[[User:Ctrl build|Ctrl_buildtalk ]] 01:45, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

You added an accuracy dispute notice to this page, but you didn't say on the discussion page what you objected to. Can you explain on that page, please? Michael Hardy 01:47, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Oh ... I see: you in effect removed my stated objection. I at least made it clear which parts I had a problem with. Michael Hardy 01:52, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for your contribution.

Significant revision in progress. Please re-visit and comment, if you consider appropriate. unsigned comment by 201.8.95.202

Textfiles.com[edit]

I replied to you here. ~leifHELO 02:38, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

You wrote "In males, the second digit tends to be shorter than the fourth, and in females the fourth tends to be longer." Read that carefully and you'll see it's a case of "heads I'm right, tales you're wrong". But I only noticed it after carefully examining my own hands ;-) Unsigned comment by 209.219.231.10, who might possibly be Davelewis.

I know it must seem like I'm stalking you, but I swear I'm just going down the list at Category:Substubs. -- Cyrius| 06:44, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

  • Wow a stalker. Now I feel famous. On a more serious note yes it is a real topic, but it really a subsection of civil engineering, so if you think its a good idea to stuff it into civil engineering, I have no objections. --[[User:Ctrl build|Ctrl_buildtalk ]] 18:03, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

:I didn't stuff it into Civil engineering. I redirected it to a duplicate article (capitalization is significant). -- Cyrius| 18:08, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Doh, sorry I'm stupid. --[[User:Ctrl build|Ctrl_buildtalk ]] 18:11, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for your help with the TCU page. Email me at: Zephern@gmail.com

Hook echo[edit]

Glad you could use the hook echo image. I ran across the tornado article and thought it would be nice to include a hook echo image, so I found one at a NOAA site. I know that most image captions are very small, but I included a large description of hook echo (which I simply copied verbatim from public domain NOAA site) to make it sort of like a "side bar". However, with a separate article on hook echo, you are correct in that the caption description is longer than it needs to be.

I noticed that someone completely deleted the tornado article. I'm fairly new to Wikipedia and don't know what to do about this. Wyatts 18:48, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Why "Herbert George Wells?"[edit]

It's not like it's a big deal... but no discussion on the Talk page leaps out at me... and surely "H. G. Wells" is the most familiar and most frequently presented form of the man's name. All of his work was published under that form of the name. Google: Results 1 - 100 of about 716,000 for "h. g. wells", Results 1 - 100 of about 44,800 for "herbert george wells" So, according to our naming conventions, shouldn't H. G. Wells be the article's name and Herbert George Wells be the redirect? [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 20:51, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

On licensing photographs of artworks[edit]

Cyrius, thanks for your suggestion at the village pump on my photo for the article on Eversholt, Bedfordshire. That sent me hunting down UK law on the issue - I've left a note at the village pump. It seems significantly different from US law, and also useful to wikipedia, I think. Thanks! Emrys2 21:59, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

A. Bartlett Giammati[edit]

When you reverted, you reverted not only TMC182, but also some rather painstaking editing I had done. I don't know the history of TMC182's copyright violations (or alleged copyright violations); you may well have had to revert him. But if he's repeatedly inserting copyrighted material into articles that are edited by others and then reverted, it might be helpful for you to bring him before the arbitration committee, as it's rather annoying for those who edit after him. In the meantime I'll try and fix some things I've previously fixed in the article. - Nunh-huh 00:35, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Oh, if he's blocked then, that's a good thing. You've already taken action to prevent the consequences I'd envisioned<g>. Thanks for dealing with him. (Too bad though, some of the baseball stuff he added was interesting. If only we could be sure it wasn't "lifted"...) - Nunh-huh 00:45, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Happy Anniversary!!!![edit]

Happy anniversary, happy anniversary, happy anniversary, haaaaaaaapy anniversary. →Raul654 08:31, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC)

'hmmmm' cake.

Congrats on lasting a year and thank you for your service, oh...and where are you going with that handbasket? :D Arminius 08:45, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

thanks[edit]

Thanks for the {{delete}} notice. I'll keep it in mind. --Cmprince 14:44, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

sorry[edit]

My mistake. Didn't mean to make work harder for you. Meelar (talk) 00:49, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)

Willy on Wheels[edit]

I didn't even notice the others until I saw the block list. Ah, well. He's very blocked. Mackensen (talk) 02:36, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

2004 MN₄[edit]

Technically, titling the page "2004 MN4" is not incorrect, as the pure-ASCII form "2004 MN4" is actually quite frequent in astronomical use (the asteroid orbital data base, for example). In any case, in the WrongTitle template, you should really use the Unicode for subscript 4, which is &#x2084; or &#8324; (₄). Be aware that WrongTitling all of the unnamed asteroids of this type is going to be an arduous task...

Urhixidur 05:51, 2004 Dec 25 (UTC)

Star Trek Synopse Copyright Fiasco[edit]

Do I now need your permission or verification to continue adding Star Trek synopses to Wikipedia? I was halfway done with season three of Star Trek: The Original Series when User: 64.26.167.34cantmakearealname cried that Wikipedia had more info about Trek than Memory Alpha and screwed everything up by adding the "quick overviews" from that website and spammed links to those pages. The pages now say Copyright Violation and I have to edit a temporary entry. I don't think I should have to do that since everything was kosher before 64.26.whatever screwed it up. Thanks Cyberia23 12:20, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I would like to add to this that your constant reversions of Requiem for Methuselah have no basis. I understood your original concern and rewrote the episode summary from scratch. I did not copy the material from any webpage or source. It is my own original work. Please do not say I violated a copyright without discussing it. The article has again been reverted to my original work. Let us visit the Dispute Resolution page if you still have issues with it. Thank you. -Husnock 27 Dec 04

Thanks for the info, and for your detective work. Yeah, I moved the user's rewrite since it looked like a good rewrite and I didn't want to lose it by just reverting to the copyvio notice. Thanks to your diligence, you saved it again and improved on it. — Knowledge Seeker দ (talk) 10:44, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

All Our Yesterdays Move[edit]

Yeah sorry about that. I wanted to keep the pages uniform and I totally forgot about the MOVE feature. Cyberia23 12:22, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Another Copyright Question[edit]

Sorry to bug you again, but I have another question or two about the copyright situation concerning the Star Trek pages and Wikipedia's policies in general... Isn't the content of Wikipedia "copyright free", as well as other Wikicoded sites like "Memory Alpha" for instance?

Since anyone can hop on here and add and change stuff I thought the information content could be used anywhere, which is why I've seen numerous "free" web encylopedias who just take what is on Wikipedia and put it one their own pages word-for-word and cover it with spam banners and pop-up ads so they can make a buck.

Since Memory Alpha's content can be edited by anyone and they are a Wiki-based site isn't what is on there also copyright free? If so, what is the big deal about taking what was on there and putting on Wikipedia as the anonymous user did? I'm not saying that's what I've been doing, I been writing my own material, but what is really the difference if the situation were reversed, i.e. someone from Memory Alpha coming to Wikipedia and copy-pasting what was on a Wikipedia Terk page and putting it on Memory Alpha as one of their pages? Cyberia23 08:58, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks again[edit]

You're fast with help at Wikipedia:Help desk. I appreciate it but I don't know how you do it. So, are you watching us or what? I've tried watching "Recent changes" so I know that's not how we get flagged, it's just too damn cluttered. An interested newcomer:hydnjo talk 03:39, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

RC Patrol[edit]

I received your very polite message about RC Patrol and signatures, and have changed my signature. Is it turned off so that a user can turn it on, or is it off permanantly? If so, why?--Honeycake (internal ID number: 118170) 10:13, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Recent changes patrol[edit]

You said on the pump that the recent changes patrol is "turned off by default"; by that, did you mean it's a software setting in MediaWiki that's off by default, or a user setting on Wikipedia, that is, is there a way for me to turn it on for me personally, or is it turned off at the MediaWiki level? --Golbez 19:12, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks. Do you know why it's disabled? --Golbez 19:20, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for fixing my unintended includes on User talk: Fennec. Paul August 22:24, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)

RE: Another Copyright Question[edit]

Makes sense now. Thanks, and Happy New Year. Cyberia23 11:33, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)