Talk:Cadillac Eldorado

Eldorado Brougham section delete

Why was the 1957-1960 Eldorado Brougham section deleted? As best as I can tell, at one time the Eldorado Brougham section was independent, then incorporated into this article, and then on April 1, 2009 removed. I can't figure out why. I admit my absolute newbie status; but I can't see any violations (unless the photo of the Brougham was inappropriate, and then it should have been deleted with the information text retained). I'm not adept enough to reconstruct this, but please return the Eldorado Brougham section to as it was on March 31, 2009. Thank you. PVarjak (talk) 21:12, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Was there a factory convertible of the final Eldorado body style? A dealer near here has an "ESC convertible" that looks stock, but I never heard of such a thing. A quick google search turned up nothing conclusive. --SFoskett 14:02, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

Nope. All such that exist are custom jobs. Could that be ASC? I think American Sunroof Corporation may have made up a batch. RivGuySC 18:24, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

First Generation

I don't believe the 1954 Eldorado should be included with the 1953 as "first generation". It was a unique body style (for Cadillac; I'm not counting the similarly-bodied 1953 Oldsmobile Sierra) that was not continued into 1954.

63.202.42.120 (talk) 18:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

The 1960s

Cadillac Eldorado -- The 1960s -- To avoid image stackups into the next section, I co-aligned two Cadillac images together in a DIV and then added a forced break before the next section.

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Mardus 01:16, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

1971 Eldorado

I just added my stock '71 convertible to the mix. If the photos are improperly placed, feel free to move them. Wwmitchell 01:30, 26 December 2006 (UTC)Bill Mitchell

1986–1991 model and a consultant's prediction

"News reports later indicated that GM had been led astray by a consultant's prediction that gasoline would be at $3 per US gallon in the U.S. by 1986 and that very small luxury cars would be in demand."

The consultant's prediction was ultimately correct, but off by 20 years :-). Is it thus possible to claim that seventh generation (1986–1991) Eldorados' fuel economy is still reasonable with what the current petrol prices are in North America — compared both to previous and later models, which appear to have a more dismal fuel economy? -Mardus 17:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio?

Is this a copyvio from there -- http://www.cadillac.kiev.ua/cadillac-eldorado.html -- or here?? -Mardus 18:19, 12 August 2007 (UTC) Hi, I have a 1991 eldorado touring coupe in black. I ordered the car new. There were some errors in the description. First off the final drive ratio is 3.08. Second, the Bose stereo, both available in cassette or cd was an extra cost option on touring coupe, not standard, as was the extra cost sunroof and the extra cost heated windshield. I didn't get the cd player as they skipped badly at this time, with no buffer memory, and the windshield with the heated wires prevented radar detectors from working. Overall it is a great car. I keep it as a "nice day car " now. Any questions can be referred to nickm63@aol.com. Nickm63 (talk) 15:48, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

The Last Cadillac

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE ELDORADO WAS THE LAST OF THE REAL CADILLACS....AND THAT IT WAS A SAD DAY WHEN OUR SOCIETY TOSSED IT ASSIDE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.160.242.107 (talk) 12:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Not that I disagree, but pretty sure this would count as violating NPOV. 86.139.15.170 (talk) 01:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Picture Choice

The lead picture to this article should be an Eldorado, not the 1959 model currently used. Ideally, I would think it should be a picture which best represents the model's styling cues over its lifetime, and not include a great deal of aftermarket accessories. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.160.21 (talk) 16:23, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I thought the image of the '72 was the best quality, so I put it at the top. --Sable232 (talk) 03:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I have to respectfully but strongly disagree with that choice. The 1959 Eldorado Biarritz is THE widely recognized classic and commands the highest price of any model before or since. WwmitchellBill Mitchell24.205.185.132 (talk) 02:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I replaced the top photo with a 1958 Eldorado Brougham. In my opinion, it's a much better photo, and a much more stylish model than the 1972. I wrote to the owner of the photo and was given permission to post it here. I know there is also a separate Brougham page, but since this is one of the most spectacular Eldorados, I think it belongs here. --Wwmitchell (talk) 19:56, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

The picture of the "fifth generation" car is not an Eldorado. Instead, it is a 1969 Cadillac Coupe DeVille convertible. A handsome car to be sure, but not an Eldorado. --91SDVowner (talk) 04:30, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I fixed it. We've got an editor here whose newest method of being disruptive is placing images of the wrong car or of the wrong generation. --Sable232 (talk) 16:27, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Sable, do you own that '72? Even though I own the '71 that you moved, I think most would agree, it's a lot better looking photo to use as the main example of its generation. The angle looks fine to me. Anyway, I won't change it back. I'll leave that to an objective third party to decide.--Wwmitchell (talk) 18:32, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

No, I don't (although I wish I did!) The picture of your car is taken from too close (making it look as if one is looking downward at the car) and shows too much of the front compared to the side. --Sable232 (talk) 19:28, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

This article IS NOT too long

I strongly and adamantly disagree with whomever is responsible for placing the "Article is too long" banner at the top of this page!!! The Cadillac Eldorado is an iconic, historically significant contribution to the history of the American automobile. I also feel that the Eldorado Brougham page should be included in this section and not retained as an additional page.MJEH (talk) 13:40, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

A car this long deserves an article this long! --Wwmitchell (talk) 22:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

The only thing in this article that might be too long is the section on "Powertrain anomalies." I think explaining that on the engine's page is enough, it shouldn't have to spread like a tumor to every article on the affected cars. A summary is enough. --Sable232 (talk) 03:40, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I need help, I am finding it very difficult to obtain the torque specs for the heads of a 1994 4.6 liter nothstar. Can anyone help?68.108.149.17 (talk) 00:02, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Mikey@ mikemoreau@rocketmail.com

Long count

There is a contradiction in production figures between Ludvigsen & Flory. Can anybody sort it out? TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 16:23, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Digital Dash?

about this passage...

"1984 was also the first year electronic "digital" instrumentation was an available option. In addition to the digital electronic climate control that was standard on all Eldorados, the standard analog speedometer and fuel gauges could be replaced with a digital display showing speed in a single, precise, and instant number and a fuel gauge that would read the number of gallons of fuel remaining in the gas tank and another gauge showing approximately how many miles can be driven on it."

My 1981 Eldorado Biarritz with the 368 engine had this feature. I dont believe that 1984 was the first year — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.37.171.132 (talk) 19:38, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

steel plate

I, for one, think the steel plate story is baloney. A balance problem corrected with a steel plate under the driver's seat? Come on. Totally ridiculous. Somebody help me with this. This can't beLonginus876 (talk) 21:27, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

I went ahead and removed it, based on the fact that its' completely unsupported by any reference. Information in a Wikipedia article needs to be verifiable and supported by notable sourcing... period.842U (talk) 14:23, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

The edits regarding the steel plate were originally added [[1]]; there is nolonger an editor of that name on Wikipedia -- and the talk page for that user suggests an ignominious end. It looks like the edits made by the user were all unsourced and highly anecdotal. It's likely they were Original Research. Thanks for catching it. If there is indeed any truth to the info, then let someone else reintroduce the info... with a bona fide source.842U (talk) 16:16, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Wrong image for 1959 Eldorado

I just came to this page and noticed there is a wrong image under '1959 Eldorado', the car pictured here is a 1960 Series 62 convertible, not a '59 Eldorado. Unfortunately I don't have sufficient privileges to replace this picture but I do have a great high res GM factory image of a 1959 Eldorado that this picture can be replaced with and without copyright issues. If anyone could change that picture let me know and I can send the correct image. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blade0817 (talk • contribs) 03:48, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Third Generation: 1957-1960

This grouping doesn't make much sense. The 1959-1960 cars are radically different from the 1957-58 models -- not just regarding the Eldorado but for General Motors as a whole. They have much more in common with their 1961-64 successors than they do with the 1957-58 cars. 1957-58 should comprise the third generation; the 1959-1960 cars should be grouped with the 1961-64 models. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.216.211.40 (talk) 00:48, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

1970 Cadillac Eldorado federal door sticker

I am having difficulty in California obtaining current registration on my Eldo that was purchased new in 1970. All my documentation matches, but the local DMV will not accept what we have since there is not a federal sticker on the driver's door; this Eldo is in pristine condition and as far as I recall has never had a federal sticker. The Eldo was ordered in late 1969 and delivered in very early January 1970. I last registered it in 1991 and have kept it garaged all this time. I've only driven it with special permits and now desire to license it for 2018. Can anyone advise me on whether or not a federal sticker was on the driver's door for this unit?

Robin Westrope e/m: robinwestrope@hotmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robinwestrope (talk • contribs) 19:14, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Cadillac NART Zagato

The Cadillac NART Zagato was proposed by Cadillac itself and used the chassis & drivetrain of the 1970 Eldorado, why not add it onto the page? Some guys have continuously deleted my work. NEED Help! ArcTempesta (talk) 15:05, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

New Section for Eldorado Brougham

The 1957-1960 Eldorado Brougham was a distinctive, ultra-premium 4 door vehicle. It shares the name "Eldorado" with the 2 door car, but not body shell, price point, or mechanics. Describing Eldorado Brougham and it's many distinctions is taking the article on a tangent. Suggest new "Cadillac Eldorado Brougham" page, similar to it's competitor Continental Mark II. That would ease review.````

Which one?

End of one section:

 In 1970, the Eldorado featured the new Cadillac 500 V8 (8.2 L) V8 engine,[1] Cadillac's largest-ever regular production V8, rated SAE gross 400 hp (298 kW) and 550 lb⋅ft (746 N⋅m), and would remain exclusive to the Eldorado until it became the standard engine in all full size Cadillacs for the 1975-76 model years. A power sunroof was a newly available option for 1970. Styling changes for 1970 included a longer hood, a new grille with '8.2 Litre' notification and new taillamp bezels with thin lenses.

Beginning of the next section:

 The 1971 Eldorado was substantially redesigned, growing two inches in length, six in wheelbase and featuring standard fender skirts, all of which gave the car a much heavier appearance than the previous generation. To haul the extra weight, Cadillac bored out the 472 cu in V8 to 500 cu in (8.2 L), an Eldorado exclusive and largest engine of its era. 

Both can't be true. And what extra weight? It says it looks heavier. The extra weight from the two new inches of length and fender skirts?

64.222.110.16 (talk) 01:35, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

The 1970 information is correct, so I removed the offending language from the 1971 section.

The infobox data indicates a 100 lbs greater curb weight for the 1971 model, but "heavier appearance" isn't exactly quantifiable. --Sable232 (talk) 21:41, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

1979 to 1985 Eldorado width

The article lists a width of 79 inches for the 79-85 Eldorado. It was actually about 71 inches wide.13:12, 26 October 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.19.140.69 (talk)