Talk:Terra Lliure

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Terrorist[edit]

I am not sure if TLl follows the conditions listed in Category:Terrorist organizations. If they attacked Losantos, they do. If they don't, this article should specify its targets better. -- Error 02:41, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hard to Read[edit]

The grammar of this article is all over the place. Whoever wrote it may want to keep the verbs in one tense or another for clarity's sake.

Biased[edit]

Cvalda 14:29, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC) I think the article is a bit biased in favour of the organization. Rewrite. Thank you.

Fixed[edit]

So... i have fixed the POV issue, the grammar and the general structure of the article. Some links need to be check (i.e. television antennae) and the whole thing needs research and references. J4vier 00:59, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Links[edit]

I have removed two links. One was a dead end; the other was to a independentist website in which i found not direct info about TLL. J4vier 19:11, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Use of terrorism[edit]

It has been long discused and decided to avoid calling any group or person "terrorist", given its highly subjective meaning. Wikipedia itself has a particular page on this subject and does not consider encyclopedic the use "X is a terrorist" or "X is a terrorist organization" Wikipedia: Words to avoid - Terrorism whereas "X considers Y a terrorist organization" is accepted. I think the most important point on this subject is that there does not exist a common agreement on the definition of terrorism. This is the expression used to define the IRA. Even the Al-qaeda article does not call it terrorist.Please can I request permission to change it to "paramilitary organization" or anything similar? --213.189.161.202 18:02, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bad link: Alerta[edit]

Alerta bulletin has nothing to do with Peruvian geography... --88.13.140.252 09:03, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Terra Lliure a Terrorist Organization[edit]

Terra Lliure meets every criterion to be quallified as a terrorist organization:

Attacks with explosives to civil ^[1], administrative ^[2], lawyers ^[3], police ^[4] and military targets, with the results of serious injuries, deads ^[5] and serious damages to property ^[6]
kidnappings ^[7]
Organized structure continued in time
Judicial sentences where they have been qualified as a terrorist organization ^[8] ^[9] including a sentence by the European Court of Human Rights^[10] Danielhythloday (talk) 14:46, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

a lot of that is very clearly orginal research. Terra lliure being legally considered a terrorist organisation is not grounds to call it one.190.248.136.154 (talk) 15:04, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, there's nothing of original research here. All are very public records, most of them quoted by other WP pages. Danielhythloday (talk) 18:10, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.europapress.es/nacional/noticia-ts-eleva-23-anos-pena-carcel-ex-miembro-terra-lliure-condenado-colocar-bombas-bancos-20070724191840.html

[2] ttp://hemeroteca.lavanguardia.com/preview/1987/04/26/pagina-36/32988026/pdf.html>

[3] ttps://elpais.com/diario/1987/12/26/espana/567471609_850215.html

[4] ttps://elpais.com/diario/1989/09/12/espana/621554403_850215.html

[5] ttp://webs.xadica.cat/historiatll/rpfg2.gif

[6] ttp://www.acvot.org/v2/doc.php?id=9

[7] ttp://hemeroteca-paginas.lavanguardia.com/LVE08/HEM/1981/05/22/LVG19810522-027.pdf

[8] ttp://www.europapress.es/nacional/noticia-ts-eleva-23-anos-pena-carcel-ex-miembro-terra-lliure-condenado-colocar-bombas-bancos-20070724191840.html

[9] ttp://www.poderjudicial.es/stfls/SALA%20DE%20PRENSA/NOTAS%20DE%20PRENSA/TS%20Penal%2019-02-2015.pdf

[10] ttp://baltasargarzon.org/ante-la-tortura/terra-lliure-sentencia-tdeh/

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