User talk:Mumonkan
Video blog article[edit]
Hi Mumonkan,
I'm looking to get the video blog article expanded and I noticed you've contributed to the article in the past. It would be great if you could check it out again. It could use some help. Thanks. Pdelongchamp 22:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
3rd party references would be useful to establish notability. Also inline citations, per ref guide posted above, help to establish credibility. Tyrenius (talk) 23:12, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Guide to referencing[edit]
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I thought you might find it useful to have some information about references (refs) on wikipedia. These are important to validate your writing and inform the reader. Any editor can removed unreferenced material; and unsubstantiated articles may end up getting deleted, so when you add something to an article, it's highly advisable to also include a reference to say where it came from. Referencing may look daunting, but it's easy enough to do. Here's a guide to getting started.
A reference must be accurate, i.e. it must prove the statement in the text. To validate "Mike Brown climbed Everest", it's no good linking to a page about Everest, if Mike Brown isn't mentioned, nor to one on Mike Brown, if it doesn't say that he climbed Everest. You have to link to a source that proves his achievement is true. You must use reliable sources, such as published books, mainstream press, authorised web sites, and official documents. Blogs, Myspace, Youtube, fan sites and extreme minority texts are not usually acceptable, nor is original research, e.g. your own unpublished, or self-published, essay or research.
The first thing you have to do is to create a "Notes and references" section. This goes towards the bottom of the page, below the "See also" section and above the "External links" section. Enter this code:
The next step is to put a reference in the text. Here is the code to do that. It goes at the end of the relevant term, phrase, sentence, or paragraph to which the note refers, and after punctuation such as a full stop, without a space (to prevent separation through line wrap):
Whatever text you put in between these two tags will become visible in the "Notes and references" section as your reference.
Copy the following text, open the edit box for this page, paste it at the bottom (inserting your own text) and save the page:
(End of text to copy and paste.)
You need to include the information to enable the reader to find your source. For an online newspaper source, it might look like this:
When uploaded, it appears as:
Note the single square brackets around the URL and the article title. The format is:
Make sure there is a space between the URL and the Title. This code results in the URL being hidden and the title showing as a link. Use double apostrophes for the article title (it is quoted text), and two single quote marks either side of the name of the paper (to generate italics). Double square brackets round the name of the paper create an internal link (a wikilink) to the relevant wikipedia article. Apostrophes must go outside the brackets. The date after The Guardian is the date of the newspaper, and the date after "Retrieved on" is the date you accessed the site – useful for searching the web archive in case the link goes dead. Dates are wikilinked so that they work with user preference settings to display the date in the format the user wishes.
You can use sources which are not online, but which you have found in a library or elsewhere—in which case leave out the information which is not relevant. The newspaper example above would be formatted like this:
When uploaded, it appears as:
Here is an example for a book:
When uploaded, it appears as:
Make sure you put two single quote marks round the title (to generate italics), rather than one double quote mark.
These formats are all acceptable for dates:
You may prefer to use a citation template to compile details of the source. The template goes between the ref tags and you fill out the fields you wish to. Basic templates can be found here: Wikipedia:Template messages/Sources of articles/Citation quick reference
The first time a reference appears in the article, you can give it a simple name in the <ref> code:
The second time you use the same reference in the article, you need only to create a short cut instead of typing it all out again:
You can then use the short cut as many times as you want. Don't forget the /, or it will blank the rest of the article! A short cut will only pick up from higher up the page, so make sure the first ref is the full one. Some symbols don't work in the ref name, but you'll find out if you use them. You can see multiple use of the same refs in action in the article William Bowyer (artist). There are 3 sources and they are each referenced 3 times. Each statement in the article has a footnote to show what its source is.
The above method is simple and combines references and notes into one section. A refinement is to put the full details of the references in their own section headed "References", while the notes which apply to them appear in a separate section headed "Notes". The notes can be inserted in the main article text in an abbreviated form as seen in Harriet Arbuthnot or in a full form as in Brown Dog affair.
More information can be found at:
I hope this helps. If you need any assistance, let me know. |
An article you recently created, Wild Me, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:35, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
An article you recently created, Wildbook, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:35, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Wild Me (May 6)[edit]
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Wildbook (May 6)[edit]
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Draft:Wild Me concern[edit]
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Draft:Wildbook concern[edit]
Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Wildbook, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.
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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:40, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Wild Me[edit]
Hello, Mumonkan. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Wild Me".
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! JMHamo (talk) 08:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Wildbook[edit]
Hello, Mumonkan. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Wildbook".
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File permission problem with File:Gridcosm-795-796-zoom.png[edit]
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File permission problem with File:Gridcosm-795-artistmap.png[edit]
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Gridcosm[edit]
Thanks for resolving this!
How are we meant to interpret the distinction in Completed level images are licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 Generic License. (This does not apply to individual pieces by single artists.)
, though? Doesn't every completed level image include eight individual pieces by single artists, at as high a resolution as they were submitted?
And should the eight artists be attributed by name, in each case, or the work as a whole to "Gridcosm"? (I guess we probably shouldn't try to attribute all the thousands of artists whose work is implicit in the central pixels...) Belbury (talk) 09:38, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- it is a valid and long-standing question. for the history of sito (we are in our 30th year!), collaborative works have always been considered usable by sito (the site/"organization") in whatever manner we wished. whenever we use a full level (9 images combined into 1, by any number of artists), that final single image is what is available under cc-by-sa. since a single artist made each individual piece with intention to be part of this collaboration, we do not allow the same license on these small squares. (which technically one can get to with a specific url.)
- technically under cc-by-sa, i guess someone could chop that final full level into exact 1/9 pieces and get back the individual pieces, but i consider that a weird edge case that i am unable to fully understand how it could be resolved. i guess this is what you are talking about. i suppose if someone made a collage from magazines, claimed it was available under cc-by-sa, then someone took that and cropped out just the coca-cola logo within it and claimed that was available for cc-by-sa, it would keep the lawyers busy.
- if there is some clearer wording i can put on gridcosm, let me know. as i said, i am no lawyer. but if this divisible edge case is blocking the thing from being used in wikipedia, so be it, i can drop the illustrative images from the article. the weirdness of sito has been that weird for 30 years, so i am slightly less worried about that. :) Jon Lon Sito (talk) 18:21, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
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