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May 2: National Day of Prayer in the United States (2024) Aerial view of Old Portsmouth 1194 – King Richard I of England gave the city of Portsmouth (Old Portsmouth pictured) its first royal charter. 1559 – Presbyterian clergyman John Knox returned from exile to lead the Scottish Reformation. 1670 – A royal charter granted the Hudson's Bay Company a monopoly in the fur trade in Rupert's Land (present-day Canada). 1999 – Mireya Moscoso became the first woman to be elected President of Panama. 2003 – Cyclone Manou formed in the Indian Ocean; over the next two weeks it struck Madagascar and left more than 100,000 people homeless. 2011 – Osama bin Laden was shot and killed by U.S. Navy SEAL Team 6 in a private residential compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. Blanche of Artois (d. 1302) Ichiyō Higuchi (b. 1872) Dwayne Johnson (b. 1972) More anniversaries: May 1 May 2 May 3

Start of the Marvel Cinematic Universe

On May 2, 2008, Iron Man was released, creating the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Would this be a notable event to add? --DannyS712 (talk) 23:46, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Seems like movie trivia to me. Toddst1 (talk) 00:47, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

@Toddst1: I disagree. The MCU is huge, and its foundation is significant. I would argue that it is perhaps more significant than the launch of the Instagram IOS app, which was featured today on the main page under "on this day." Does anyone else have an opinion? --DannyS712 (talk) 23:36, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

@DannyS712: Per WP:DOYSTYLE "The date pages should be kept clean of trivia such as film history." Clear enough? Toddst1 (talk) 23:43, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

@Toddst1: WP:DOYSTYLE is an essay for the Days of the Year Wikiproject. Furthermore, I would argue that this is not merely "trivia." However, on the content guideline page (WP:DOY), the "nutshell" lists "Accomplishments in the arts ...[that] are particularly important." Below, I have included a number of sources that document the importance of the MCU, and of Iron Man, as well as selected quotes from each.

"'It’s Marvel’s universe,' one rival executive told me recently. 'We just live in it.' It is hard to imagine Marvel’s run stretches back only a decade, but it all began on May 2, 2008, when Paramount released Iron Man, launching Marvel as a real studio."

"At first, movie critics and the casual movie audience saw these comic book movies as a positive trend, but nothing more. In 2012, those same people were proven wrong as Marvel officially took over the film industry when the Avengers assembled for the first time on screen."

"Iron Man managed to take a different track, combining visually stimulating action, great character work and set the foundation for a stunningly interconnected world populated by superheroes."

"Starting with 2008's Iron Man, the universe launched with a simple tag scene at the end of the film, showing that Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark was not alone in the hero-verse."

"10 years and 18 movies in, the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) has taken a superhuman grip of both the box office and modern popular culture — and, for now at least, it shows no signs of letting go." Sources:

I'm sorry you're so caught up in this trivia (aka "film history") but your wishes don't fit with the guidelines of the wikiproject that governs these DOY pages. I appreciate that you're a big fan, but at the end of the day this info is the textbook definition of WP:FANCRUFT. Toddst1 (talk) 02:52, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

@Toddst1: Please note the following:

1. WP:FANCRUFT includes a section in the lede, applicable here, that reads "Thus, use of this term may be regarded as pejorative, and when used in discussion about another editor's contributions, it can sometimes be regarded as uncivil." Given that the marvel cinematic universe is not an example of "fancruft," (it has dozens if not hundreds of articles dedicated to it, a wikipedia book about it, numerous categories dedicated to it, and its own wikipedia portal), this use of this accusation, coupled with your edit summary for one of the edits for your above response ("we don't live in that universe", seen here) likely violates Wikipedia:No personal attacks.
2. Even if we disagree about whether or not this should be included, and even if I am wrong, I explicitly asked about it here rather than simply adding it to the page, precisely because I wanted to seek consensus about the decision beforehand. Your edit here suggesting that my request to add "iron man" to this page shows that I should not recieve pending-changes rights, despite the fact that, as an autoconfirmed user, I could have just added it myself, likewise runs afoul of Wikipedia:No personal attacks.
3. After you initially opined not to include this, I asked if anyone else agreed. As it stands, the !vote is 1-1, and thus no consensus can be established regarding whether this should be included or not.

Accordingly, I will not be responding to any more edits from you, other than responding to your comment about my request for permissions. I do not want to get into a talk-page war. If anyone else would like to discuss the inclusion or not of this article, please don't let this exchange dissuade you from doing so. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:35, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Just so you know, it's not a vote. The discussion is you opposing both Wikipedia:DOYSTYLE and my comments. Toddst1 (talk) 03:58, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

ETA

I’ve moved the entry about the dissolution of ETA, from 3rd May, TO 2nd May: as this is when the Wikipedia entry on the group says they dissolved [[1]].

Cuddy2977 (talk) 14:46, 16 April 2019 (UTC)