Talk:XM2001 Crusader

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Relevance?[edit]

"The British have adopted a new vehicle, the AS-90 costing around $8 million. The AS-90 weighs around 45 tons and has a speed of around 50km/h (roughly 31 mph)." isn't really relevant to this article so unless anyone has an objection I'll just go ahead and delete it. --Nizzemancer (talk) 15:08, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Definition[edit]

What do RSV and CPH mean? —No-One Jones (m) 05:59, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Self propelled howitzer and (I guess) resuply vehicle. Bad move not explaining those in the text - the artilce reads more like a brouchure than anything. GraemeLeggett 12:00, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Counterpart?[edit]

It states there is no known foreign counterpart, but isn't the Pz-2000 or maybe even the South-African G-5 pretty similar? Certainly the Pz-2000, since it was actually proposed as a replacement for the Crusader after its cancellation.

I added the AS90. I know of no reason it is not considered a counterpart. David.j.james 12:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tons?[edit]

"Tons" are referred to. What sort? Short tons, long tons or metric tons?Blaise 20:43, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


No discussion of the decision to cancel Crusader[edit]

In 2002, SecDef Rumsfeld unceremoniously cancelled Crusader. Many in the US Army feel this to be an extremely bad decision and the beginnings of Rumsfeld's effort to turn the most powerful army on earth into the worlds largest commando unit. This demands discussion but I see it nowhere in American or international media.


show a reference to the statement and then you can include it. Drew1369 15:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Carlyle Group and the Defence Authorization Act[edit]

Watch this video, featuring congressmember Cynthia McKinney (the video should start at 18m15s). Isn`t this relevant information for the article៛--Siyah Kalem 01:02, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

another system?[edit]

ive heard about another system that is in the works thats supposedly better than the crusader. i cant remember the name at all but has anyone else heard about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.104.206.99 (talk) 17:08, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

I recall rumors that anticipation of Metal Storm contributed to the cancellation. LeoO3 17:00, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

operational range 50km? Surely this is wrong, it mus tbe more. that's about 30miles —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ir5ac (talkcontribs) 15:16, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is another system which is being touted as a successor to the Crusader, which is the NLOS-C (Non-Line-of-Sight Cannon), currently in development. Range with conventional ammuntion isn't known but the weapon is meant to be able to fire the Excalibur GPS-guided round which currently has an operational range of 40km, so 50km tops doesn't seem unreasonable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.104.55.243 (talk) 15:37, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be confusion of whether the Operational range refers to the range of the howitzer or the range of the vehicle. If you look at the M109 article, there it means to the vehicle's range whereas here it refers to the howitzer. --130.234.5.138 (talk) 18:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is an error lsiting features that the Crusader has in common with the M109A6 Paladin. the "Shoot and Scoot" ability is NOT limited by wires connected to the control vehicle (or Fire Direction Center), since communication between the Gun and FDC is generally carried out over secure digital radio communications. The M109A3 was connected to the FDC by wire, not the M109A6 (although they CAN be connected this way). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.153.203.4 (talk) 16:12, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of Operational Speed[edit]

This part isn't relevant to the section it's in:

"The XM2001 Crusader self-propelled howitzer had a speed of around 40 mph (64 km/h) compared to the PzH 2000 speed of around 37 mph (60 km/h). However, the Pentagon refused German suggestions of producing a PzH that would have detachable armor, which could be shipped separately, or substituting titanium for steel in many parts."

Surely it should be moved to a new subhead like Specifications, but since no source is even cited and it's quite an old edit at this point so there's been ample time to add one and no one has, it seems best to just remove it completely. 80.115.104.219 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:38, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]