Talk:John le Carré

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The publication date of the last book in the list (Agent Running in The Field) is given as October the 15th. Surely that should be the 17th? 108.171.128.180 (talk) 19:11, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Death template[edit]

I have added the recently deceased template because it is highly likely that there will be an increase in edits following his death. Feel free to remove it if it is deemed unnecessary. Thanks, Giraffer ^munch 22:20, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since his article is a candidate for In The News on the Main Page and will most likely undergo many edits to improve its chances, the tag should remain till, possibly, in the morning. Wylie pedia @ 23:53, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

second wife Alison as collaborator and de facto editor[edit]

This Guardian article by their son Nick Cornwell says that his parents formed a writing team for their fifty years together. I think reference to this is worthy of inclusion & suspect it may feature in future biography.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/mar/13/my-father-was-famous-as-john-le-carre-my-mother-was-his-crucial-covert-collaborator

Mattymmoo (talk) 12:13, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bibliogragraphy[edit]

We'd already acheived consensus long ago that This author's novels should be listed chrinologically. The current categories are untenable and absurd. TheScotch (talk) 20:13, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The only novels that can be meaningfully grouped are those in the Smiley Versus Karla trilogy. Easthillian (talk) 06:25, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Irish Author ?[edit]

--— ⦿⨦⨀Tumadoireacht ^Talk/_Stalk 08:48, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t think Irish alone is the proper descriptor to define someone who only possibly had changed citizenship for the last year of his almost 90 years, is thought of as English, wrote about the British spy service, and only has his son’s word to confirm that he actually had his application approved. I totally support giving the vees where appropriate but this does not feel like the spot based on both perception and actual fact. Also definitely do not think of describing him as Anglo-Irish, because that means something entirely different. ExtravagAunt (talk) 07:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

According to the encyclopaedia Britannica, John Le Carré was English.Halbared (talk) 19:22, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-le-Carre

According to the man himself, he refers to himself as 'Englishman.'Halbared (talk) 19:34, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/books/review/john-le-carre-ben-macintyre-british-spy-thrillers.html

Tolkien wrote about elves, doesn’t mean he’s Sindarin.

You’re making emotional arguments. The man had Irish citizenship, that makes him objectively Irish as a matter of fact. The words he said in interviews years ago or the matters he wrote about will never change that.

Citizenship = nationality on the lead line is consistent across Wikipedia.

It’s a settled matter Musicisdeadon (talk) 13:18, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]