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    May 2[edit]

    How do I request a peer review?[edit]

    Placing Template:PR on Talk:Nuclear clock gives me a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Peer_review/Nuclear_clock/archive1&action=edit&editintro=Template:Peer_review/editintro&preload=Template:Peer_review/preload8 which tells me "You do not have permission to edit this page". Do I ask WP:AFC to create a page in the WP namespace?

    (Specifically, I'd an opinion from someone less familiar with the topic on which parts are too WP:TECHNICAL, and WP:PR seemed the right place to ask.) 97.102.205.224 (talk) 02:49, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    AFC are for creating articles and does not apply in this case. If you don't want to create an account and log in, reply with your reason for review below and I'll create the request for you. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 12:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Tutwakhamoe: Thank you! To expand on what I stated above, the reason for review is "Is the article sufficiently accessible to a non-WP:TECHNICAL reader to qualify for B-grade? It's difficult for someone steeped in the literature enough to write the article to judge, so a separate reviewer's opinion would be valuable. (I'm pretty sure the other B-grade criteria are already met, but feel free to comment on those too, if you like.)" 97.102.205.224 (talk) 19:35, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Resolved Wikipedia:Peer review/Nuclear clock/archive1 now exists. Thank you, Tutwakhamoe (talk · contribs)! 97.102.205.224 (talk) 21:12, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Including Parks and Trails to New Hanover County NC page[edit]

    Hello my name is James Chisum. I am the Trail Easement Coordinator for New Hanover County. Part of my job is increasing interest and generating usage of our trail and park network. I think exposure to our trail and park system can be increased by adding that information to both the New Hanover County and Wilmington NC wiki-pages. For a complete list of parks and trails please respond and I will help facilitate anything you request to the best of my ability. look forward to hearing from you Jim Chisum jchisum@nhcgov.com 910-798-7567 152.31.193.130 (talk) 14:26, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    We don't communicate via email/phone; we are happy to discuss this with you here. To be frank, we have no interest in helping you fulfill your job duties to increase interest in your trails and parks, no matter how good a thing that might be to do. The main purpose of Wikipedia is to summarize what independent reliable sources say about a topic- if you have independent sources that discuss your parks, it may be possible to include that in the articles you mention in a neutral, non-promotional fashion. You would first need to declare as a paid editor, a Terms of Use requirement(see WP:PAID) and then make edit requests on the article talk pages. 331dot (talk) 14:47, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You may be interested in our sibling project, Wikivoyage. I would also suggest you reach out to your local OpenStreetMap community (OSM is independent of Wikimedia, but has been descried as "the Wikipedia of maps"). Finally, our FAQ for article subjects may be of interest. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Need Help[edit]

    Can anyone help me? A user is moving my article from mainspace to draft but my article contains reliable sources Mnbnjghiryurr (talk) 16:31, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Note: This matter is being discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bajirao's Konkan Campaign. Cullen328 (talk) 17:01, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing Wikipedia[edit]

    When I go to my profile and click on the contributions page, it shows all of my edits with either a positive or negative number next to them? What does that number mean?

    BindingOfIsaac (talk) 18:00, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    It's your reputation score. No just kidding, it reflects how much content was added or removed with each edit. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 18:01, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! BindingOfIsaac (talk) 18:04, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Signature[edit]

    Can this be my signature? or will someone call me out of it?:🅿𝔸𝓉ⓐ꓄𝐞𝟛２4͓̽ (talk) 20:01, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Patate324. The misspelling is confusing. You can use the strange characters, but I suggest that you spell your own username correctly in your signature. Cullen328 (talk) 20:35, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    For a little while when I was new to Wikipedia, my sig was my real name; no one objected. —Tamfang (talk) 22:57, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Why can't I get info page publish?[edit]

    I was looking for information about "Pay per head", but you have nothing about it. So I decided to create it myself, but it wasn't published! Bek Seo (talk) 20:14, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi @Bek Seo. You created the article in your Sandbox, an area to make test edits.
    It would not be accepted as an article as it has no references, please very carefully read WP:VERIFY.
    Once ready, I would recommend you submit your sandbox for review by experienced editors by following the instructions at WP:AFC. Qcne (talk) 20:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, Bek Seo. The thing to realise is that Wikipedia is not intersted at all in what you know (or what I know, or what any random person on the internet knows): it is only interested in information which has already been published in reliable sources.
    What makes creating an article hard is that it starts with finding independent reliably published sources (see 42 for more detail on that) and then writes a summary of what those sources say, citing them. Please see your first article. ColinFine (talk) 10:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello Colin! Thanks for replying! Yes I understand that. The problem is that information is about a type of software. There are not many sources, except the ones provided by the companies that sell that specific software. I thought it would be helpful to explain what is this software is about, avoiding the "sales speech" from the sites selling it. I thought, that Wikipedia could be useful and helpful in that matter. Bek Seo (talk) 17:08, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bek Seo: I can understand the drive to create an article on something that you may be familiar with; however, if there aren't many sources then it probably doesn't meet our notability guidelines. Generally speaking, if no reliable, independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article. - AquilaFasciata (talk | contribs) 17:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If there were many sources about that subject then I wouldn't see the point on creating/collaborating with it on Wikipedia... I apologize for my mistake, I thought Wiki was a good starting point for helpful info. Bek Seo (talk) 17:41, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Accurate information[edit]

    Why are you guys deleting accurate information from pages?

    Rep. Troy Nehls (R) stated that the House of Representatives should be doing nothing but helping Donald Trump. All I did was accurately add that his allegiance is to Donald Trump, not the U.S.A.

    The only reason tht should have been deleted is if Rep. Nehls changed his position. 2603:7081:6C06:3348:31B0:364E:6C0A:ED62 (talk) 20:42, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Provide at least one reliable source for your claim, else your edits would just be seen as vandalism. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 20:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The standard for Wikipedia is WP:Verifiability, not accuracy. Correct information will be deleted as non-encyclopedic if it's WP:Original research, even if true. The linked articles explain this policy at much greater length than I want to bother writing here.
    In this particular case, the argument is not whether he said something, but whether him saying something was reported in a reliable source. If you heard him say it and are reporting it in Wikipedia, it's not encyclopedic. If you can cite to a reliable source reporting the statement (and there's not a greater preponderance of reporting that he never said it), that's an entirely different matter.
    Per WP:BLP, Wikipedia is considerably stricter about its rules when writing about living people, as in this case. In most cases, a reliable source needs to exist, but doesn't have to be directly cited to defend each little assertion, especially non-controversial ones. (WP:BLUE) For biographies of living people, it's "citation of GTFO." 97.102.205.224 (talk) 21:07, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll just note that I happened to read this earlier today. Deor (talk) 23:58, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Besides everything else, possibly Nethis (of whom I know nothing) sincerely believes that, at this time, the best way to serve the U.S.A. is to support Trump. That would make your inference false. We don't publish our own inferences even if they may be accurate. —Tamfang (talk) 23:02, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft Rejection - Questions[edit]

    Hello, I don’t think I understand the feedback I was given in the rejection for my draft here. I was told that there weren’t enough reliable sources, but included 10 whole references, many of which from major gaming publications independent from Bushiroad, which should count as secondary, reliable, and independent, correct? Dragon Ball Sparking Zero, another upcoming anime fighting game without a release date, has an article, which only has a single reference (the official website, which shouldn’t count as independent), and is nowhere near as well sourced as my article. I tried to include a source for every claim and provide a variety of sources. Is there a particular form of source I’m missing? I included both Japanese and Western sources from articles, official websites, and even a YouTube video with 56k views by a well known fighting game content creator, Justin Wong, who has his own Wikipedia article. Would everything I included not count towards it being noteworthy?

    TheEnderDwonk (talk) 23:47, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    1) The draft was not rejected, it's declined, meaning that once appropriate changes were made it can be resubmitted for another review;
    2) As per WP:OTHER, just because an existing article did not match a suitable standard, does not mean other article can be passed for lower standard. As far as I can tell, another editor copied much of the stuff to Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero, the right course of action would be fix or brought up issues of that article instead of using it as an excuse for this draft;
    3) As per WP:RSP, the only YouTube videos that are acceptable sources are those made by official channels of reliable organizations. Content made by independent YouTuber can not be used as sources, no matter how many subscribers they have;
    4) I just checked, the other cited sources in the draft are the official website of the game and announcements about the game. Official site is primary source and should be avoided, and announcements are generally counted as WP:ROUTINE and does not help with notability. There are a constant stream of game announcements, many of which would be obscure after release or even never see the light of day, we cannot have articles for every single one of them just because they have been announced.
    I agree with the reviewer here, it's best to wait post release to see if there's significant coverage of the game. If you can find suitable sources now, you can still edit and submit the draft, but at the current stage it does not seem to be ready for main space. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 00:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Alright, this is where I’m confused. So coverage of the game’s official announcements from gaming news outlets is considered routine and is not considered noteworthy, but independent content creators cannot be cited either. What specifically are you looking for source wise for an article like this? For example, gaming news outlets Goziline (which I cited in the draft) and Famitsu did articles going in-depth on the game’s mechanics. Should look to include more things like that?
    TheEnderDwonk (talk) 00:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    TheEnderDwonk, probably yes to your closing question (though I haven't examined them).
    There are two separate Wikipedia-specific criteria here which are easily confused, Reliability and Notability.
    In order to corroborate specific facts included in an article, Wikipedia requires Citation of Reliable sources – for uncontrovertial facts, these need not be independent of the article's subject.
    However, to demonstrate a subject's Notability, several (usually 3 or more) Reliable sources that are independent of the subject (and discuss it at some length) are needed.
    A Reliable source has to be one that exercises editoral control and fact checking, which by definition excludes virtually all independent content creators. News outlets that are (usually professionally) edited and fact-checked qualify, but only when they are not merely publishing or paraphrasing subject-supplied press releases, or interviewing subject-related people, which would not be independent.
    [Edited to add] Most importantly, a subject must be demonstrated by its Draft/Article to be Notable in order for the article to be included in Wikipedia. Deficiencies in corroborating individual facts within it can be addressed either by finding more sources or by deleting those facts, but Notability is make-or-break.
    Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 188.220.144.58 (talk) 06:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Alright, thank you for your help. I’ll try to go in and fix these issues.
    TheEnderDwonk (talk) 07:49, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    One way to look at this, TheEnderDwonk, is to note that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources.
    This means that not only things published by the subject's associates, but also sources that merely repeat what the subject's associates say (even if they are in themselves reliable sources) do not count towards establishing notability. ColinFine (talk) 10:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand that now, and I’ve edited my draft to address this. I hope it is accepted this time! Thank you for the feedback, I’m very glad people have been so helpful here :) TheEnderDwonk (talk) 10:22, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    May 3[edit]

    Cabinet card[edit]

    Ref number 2 is all in red, please fix if you can. Also, the new photo file is way too large. I cannot alter it. Please add the caption: "Hyde Terrace, Leeds, c.1897 - Cabinet card from the studio of Warner Gothard of Leeds" Thanks and sorry 115.70.23.77 (talk) 00:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Both fixed in this edit. Deor (talk) 02:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    In the caption underneath the photo of the 5 young women, the letter "c" is used to mean "circa" - please make sure the link on the letter "c." goes to the correct page. Thank you again 115.70.23.77 (talk) 04:19, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The text is made with {{circa|1897}} which produces "c. 1897". There is no link but a tooltip. My browser displays a dotted line where hovering says "circa". It's working as intended. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    retaining account info[edit]

    i have lost the credentials and recovery email to retain those credentials. Is there a way to retain the wikipedia account if this is the scenario? 122.165.79.124 (talk) 06:40, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    If you have lost your password and didn't get a recovery email or it doesn't work, you will not be able to regain access to your account. You should create a new account and identify it on its user page as a successor to your old account("I am User5678, I was previously User1234 but lost access"). 331dot (talk) 07:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    editing not working[edit]

    my editing not working Bhartiya Yuva Sansad (talk) 12:57, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Bhartiya Yuva Sansad, since posting the above, you have created Talk:Indian Youth Parliament. That seems to be a talk page for an article that does not exist. No-one is likely to find it except via your list of contributions. Maybe we could help if we knew what you're trying to do. Maproom (talk) 13:25, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Copyright violation? The text has ©NationYouthParliament2024 at the end. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 13:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We were working from 1999. 2409:40D4:2F:555C:B1BB:E5E3:6DF6:DA3 (talk) 04:45, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We have such papers too, we were working as Indian Youth Parliament from last two and half decades, one who complained its I’d showing that it’s fake type, wiki first clear that, this person right or not. 2409:40D4:2F:555C:B1BB:E5E3:6DF6:DA3 (talk) 04:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Equivalent policy docs on other language versions of WP[edit]

    Hi there. Just wondered if there exists a list - a "cheat sheet", if you will - of links to equivalent policy/guideline pages on other language versions of Wikipedia?

    For example, I know a few on fr-wiki because I occasionally edit there, e.g.:

    etc. If one exists, great! If not, I would be interested in helping create one. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Drm310, where there is a direct match, that is handled through Wikidata, so you can access a list of other language versions at the bottom left or top right of the page depending on the skin you use. For example "Notability policy for a Wikimedia content project" is d:Q4657574. TSventon (talk) 17:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    May 4[edit]

    Feedback on articles I've added photos to?[edit]

    Hi folks, I've been gradually adding photos from my Flickr backlog, using flickypedia. You can see the full list from my Contributions page beginning June 2023, but here are some articles I added photos to:

    I'm just wondering, how am I doing? Are there ways I could improve how I add photos to articles, any best practices? I haven't seen many edits to the pages after I've added photos, I'd just like some confirmation that my approach is good and improving Wikipedia before I add more photos. -- Skyfaller (talk) 04:51, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Article about Ira Hayes, marine Medal of honor winner, Iwo Jima[edit]

    There seems to be a conflict. Ira Hayes was one of the marines who raised the flag at Iwo Jima. For that, he was awarded the Medal of Honor. The online article fails to mention that. Can someone research this and add the missing information? I believe it is important to the Marines, the Native Americans, and the readers. Israel (talk) 04:56, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Although some online sites claim that Ira Hayes was awarded the Medal of Honor, I can find no Reliable source that says so, amongst several that list the medals that he was awarded. One example (found by independent search, not using the article's references) is https://www.militarymedals.com/warhero/corporal-ira-hayes/: of his seven medals listed in that source, the one specific to his actions at Iwo Jima is the Navy Presidential Unit Citation with silver star. Our Article corresponds with that source.
    Checking our articles on the other participants in the First and Second raisings (see Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima), none of them were awarded the Medal of Honor either, and none are listed in our article List of Medal of Honor recipients for the Battle of Iwo Jima. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 188.220.144.58 (talk) 08:03, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No one was awarded the MOH for simply raising the flag at Iwo Jima. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 14:21, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Crima în lume[edit]

    How I can edit this topic in Romanian? Alexandru Berca (talk) 11:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    If your issue is with the Romanian Wikipedia, you need to address that there, each Wikipedia is separate. 331dot (talk) 11:10, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Alexandru Berca: You may also be interested in translating articles form Romanian into English, or English into Romanian. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:14, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Rejection of my first article[edit]

    could you please tell the reasons for rejection of my first article Arunasreearu (talk) 13:14, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    If this is about Draft:A day in the life of a salesman/woman, I'd have to say it's out of scope for this website. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:36, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Arunasreearu try getting a Blog - what you wrote is not suitable for Wikipedia. Qcne (talk) 14:03, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I noticed that very similar feedback was given for Draft:A day in the life of salesman, Draft:A day in life of salesman and Draft:A day in the life of a salesman. Based on the feedback from those submissions - you ought to read What Wikipedia Is Not, I would also suggest reading a few existing Wikipedia articles on any topic of interest to you, to get an idea of what Wikipedia articles usually consist of. -- D'n'B-t -- 03:29, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    What happened to page on Joe Dispenza, the new age chiropractor?[edit]

    It seems to have been taken down. Why? 179.42.210.0 (talk) 21:53, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You can see the deletion log at Joe Dispenza. This will tell you that the article was deleted on 2 August 2010 following this discussion. It was deleted again on 6 January 2020 under our speedy deletion criteria as "Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion. DuncanHill (talk) 21:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This seems entirely likely to be another inappropriate G4 deletion, as it's hard to believe that someone would have maintained a substantially identical copy of the page and re-created it ten years later. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:13, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    May 5[edit]

    Categories[edit]

    Could someone please look at Steven Ward (TV personality), and let me know (or simply fix) whatever glitch is preventing the categories from appearing? I'm not seeing whatever is causing that. Thanks. Keystone18 (talk) 02:57, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Better? Joyous! Noise! 03:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There was a stray "<!-- " in the text, that marks the beginning of "hidden text," or text that is only visible in the edit window. There was no ending symbol, so everything after that was hidden from view. You can see where it was here

    How does one add stub tags below the categories using the VisualEditor?[edit]

    When creating new pages. If they're added as templates, they're placed above the categories, which is incorrect. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:10, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Girls' Friendly Society[edit]

    Reference numbers 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 16 are all in RED - they are all from the same book (written by Money) as is reference number 20 (which is correctly done by me just now) so all of these other references should be the same - except without the quote that is evident in reference number 20. Also Reference number 25 is also in RED. Please fix these all - unfortunately I cannot. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 08:46, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

     Done. The {{harvnb}} tags were looking for a book defined as Money 1911, which was already done in the bibliography - but defining it again in reference "20" meant they didn't know where to point. Every one of those references is now pointing towards the bibliography. 25 was just missing a title. -- D'n'B-t -- 09:36, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    John Gott (bishop)[edit]

    Ref number 12 should have a publisher and I got it all wrong. please fix. thank you. Srbernadette (talk) 09:35, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Blue question mark? which citation are you struggling with specifically? I've added a publisher to "Our Schools and Colleges" which was #12 at the time of editing. But I noticed that #11 "Robert Woodward Papers" has an empty publihser field, but more importantly it's a broken link. If you could provide a working link to that source then I or another editor could probably fill out the rest of the citation for you. -- D'n'B-t -- 10:07, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Citation style[edit]

    Hello! I was recently trying to fix an article (Turkish calligraphy) with an "unclear citation style" tag, and I found that the article had a tie between APA's citation style and Wikipedia's Citation Style 1. I was wondering which style I should use (the first article version used APA, but APA doesn't have a method for adding archive URLs to prevent link rot). DaZyzzogetonsGotDaLastWord (talk) 14:33, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Is Fandom considered a reliable source for citations?[edit]

    I was just wondering about this. Shoron100 (talk) 17:03, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Shoron100: As Fandom wikis are user-generated, they are not. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also see WP:FANDOM. CodeTalker (talk) 17:23, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Mobile version[edit]

    Hello,

    On the page Hôtel de la Marine, the first paragraph of the introductory part does not appear above the infobox but under it on the mobile version (mobile phone). I was wondering why this was.

    Thanks!

    2A02:A420:6C:AFE:8932:CAD8:7485:EB73 (talk) 17:27, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    It can happen when {{coord}} is placed early outside the infobox. I have moved it to the end.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 18:22, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Image upload[edit]

    So this keeps happening to me but no editor that places a template will actually assist me. They only add a "See:[WP]" to WP pages that are so extensive, it is impossible to weed through it all. What is so frustrating is that there are thousands of similar images uploaded that seems to comply with (or get around) WP policy yet I can't seem to find a way. So - could someone please (without simply linking me to a page to read about WP policy) actually tell me how to upload this correctly? I've just never understood why an editor who knows who, wouldn't just upload it correctly then take all the steps to have it deleted. But that's beside the point, and probably will generate a thread conversation that is separate from my original question. I really just need help to learn so I can do it correctly in the future. I've tried to upload sheet music covers from the 1920s and 1930s (which WP has dozens), and yet mine are deleted because it wasn't uploaded correctly. I'm at a loss here. If anyone could take the time to really help me, I'd appreciate it greatly. Here is what I am facing right now: Talk Page Image, Copyvio. Maineartists (talk) 17:35, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    When you uploaded the image, you said it was in the public domain. How do you know? Where did the image come from? These things matter a lot for images uploaded to Wikipedia. Mokadoshi (talk) 18:42, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Does the image comply with WP:NFCCP? I don't think this page is extensive at all. (Also, pages like WP:FAIRUSE are long but it's policy. It's long and linked for a reason.) I've just never understood why an editor who knows who, wouldn't just upload it correctly then take all the steps to have it deleted. See burden of proof, it's your responsibility to upload it correctly if you want it to stay. Having an understanding of policy would help immensely with that.
    As for how: for the resolution, see WP:IMAGERES. There's a tool linked that can help you find the decreased dimensions to comply with policy if you don't want to do the math yourself. If you want to, the formula is there. Adjust the image as necessary with the plethora of online tools available for that purpose. (Or, you can also just tag the image with {{non-free reduce}} after uploading.) Go to WP:UPLOAD. Click "Upload a non-free file". Fill the form out. ayakanaa ( t · c ) 18:50, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much, Ayakanaa. You are the first editor who has actually shown me "how". Rather than explained WP policy, copyright law, burden of proof, etc. One quick question: the link on Image resolution here: this tool is actually in a foreign language? Am I missing something? My image is only W 7.33 H 4.81 with a Res of 96 pix/in / 244KB. I can't imagine that is too large. I am currently going back in and listing this Postcard image (that's where it came from, Mokadoshi - from my own collection 1958) under Non-Free File. Hopefully I'm clicking all the right boxes to satisfy. Fingers crossed. Maineartists (talk) 20:20, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ayakanaa OK. I tried again by using your directions and links: [2] Would you mind looking at the upload and see if I did everything correctly? It would seem that I am missing a few things on the page even though I filled everything out upon initial process. Thank you. I really appreciate your taking the time to help me. Maineartists (talk) 20:30, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Maineartists Looks pretty good, I've tagged it with {{non-free reduce}} so a bot can make it smaller for you (non-free images have to be quite small: if you read WP:IMAGERES, it mentions that no more than 100k pixels should suffice – your image exceeds that). You should put it on Union Church (Wiscasset, Maine) now. ayakanaa ( t · c ) 21:28, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Wow, Ayakanaa. How can I ever thank you? After all this time. With just a few explanations and exact links to properly upload, I finally was able to upload a non-free image. All because of you. Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 22:02, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Maineartists, unfortunately, copyright is an extremely complex matter and there are many lawyers who spend their entire careers dealing with the complications. Here is a very basic overview from the point of view of someone trying to upload an image. Think of any given image as either "free" or "non-free". It is your obligation to determine which. Free images are either in the public domain so copyright laws do not apply, or they have been freely licensed by the copyright holder, most commonly under an acceptable Creative Commons license. Such free images can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, but you must furnish convincing evidence that the image is actually free. The vast majority of contemporary images that you find in books, magazines, newspapers and on websites are protected by copyright and therefore "non-free" . They can be used on English Wikipedia only if they meet the stringent and limited conditions described at Non free images. Interestingly, the example you chose of sheet music covers from the 1920s and 1930s is an edge case. The general rule (there are exceptions) is that copyright of such a cover lasts for 95 years, and that copyright expires on January 1 of the following year. So, any such cover published in 1928 or before is in the public domain, and works published in 1929 enter the public domain on January 1, 2025. And so on as the years pass. The bottom line is that you can upload public domain or correctly freely licensed images to Wikimedia Commons. Non-free images that fully comply with strict standards must be uploaded to the English Wikipedia instead. Cullen328 (talk) 19:03, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Requesting a template change[edit]

    I've forgotten how to summon a template editor to request a template change on its talk page. Simply posting a new thread there has proven ineffective. ―Mandruss ☎ 18:41, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mandruss: You can use the template {{Edit template-protected}} for this. RudolfRed (talk) 19:08, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's it! Thanks much. ―Mandruss ☎ 19:11, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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