Talk:Palm (PDA)

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This article's current state is pitiful. I think I will turn this into a project of mine. Greenmountainboy 03:01, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)

"PalmPilot," not "Palm Pilot"

Someone set up a redirect from PalmPilot to Palm Pilot, but really it should be the other way around. I don't think the name "Pilot" was ever used by the company while it was known as Palm; therefore "Palm Pilot" would be incorrect. "PalmPilot," however, was a registered trademark (now abandoned), according to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office database. —LarryGilbert 21:03, 2004 Sep 10 (UTC)

• Support. If this is wrong then it should be corrected – AxSkov (T) 07:46, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose as inaccurate. The earliest Pilots (first two models) were indeed "Pilots" that were sold by USRobotics's Palm Computing division. PalmPilot was a name that came a little bit later (with the next two models). Then the name changed again and dropped Pilot completely. And, honestly, the way they've changed names left and right this article really should just be at Palm (PDA) or something like that, because the majority of the information at Palm Pilot is for things that happened long after the Pilot name was abandoned. For an image of an original Pilot showing that it's name was indeed Pilot and not PalmPilot, see below. DreamGuy 14:03, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
• Move to Palm (PDA) instead. At first I was thinking that we would move it and put the info for the other models somewhere else, but on second thought, the article's a bit short already. Jobarts^-Talk 01:33, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request.. Palm (PDA) seems to be the best name, supported by two people above as well as myself. Please update the page to reflect the change. violet/riga (t) 14:06, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

GO Corporation, not Go Corporation

The link to GO Corporation should have GO capitalized. (I would fix this if the article were not locked.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.141.112.200 (talk) 18:15, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

PDAs?

The article currently has very little about the actual PDAs... Dan100 (Talk) 23:01, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

In the light of the above and the borked move, I'm moving the article back to Palm Pilot. If you want to move it again - update the article to reflect your new title. Dan100 (Talk) 23:02, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Back to PDA!

I have bounced this page back to the "Palm (PDA)" title. Why? It certainly seems that the page is now a general page about PDAs produced by Palm. If a separate page is needed for the Palm Pilot then fair enough, but this page certainly seems more general than that. Brusselsshrek 20:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

The topic PDA shouldnt just focus on Palms. For example, the xda neo is a PDA, yet manufactured by HTC.

Needs proper lead section

There's no definition at the top defining a "Palm (PDA)", as opposed to specific models of Palm Pilot or whatever; it contributes to the unfocused feel of the article. I know very little about it, but the article would definitely benefit from a good Wikipedia:Lead section. — Catherine\^talk 18:26, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Good idea. Done. Sure someone will improve on my first attempt soon enough, great. Brusselsshrek 21:43, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

What about the individual palms?

How do we go to just the individual pages instead of redirecting them torward Palm?

List of Palm Pilot Files

Does anybody know of a list of files found on a Palm Pilot? I recently had to backup and partially restore my Palm and found that there were a lot of files of which I couldn't remotely guess what they were for. That of course not only goes for the .prc files but also for the .pdb files they create / use. I think such a list would be very suited for a wiki.

Examples:

• Labels.pdb
• lbPG-Accounts.pdb
• MEDATA-SBN1.pdb and MEDATA-SBN2.pdb

What are these files and which program uses them?

Labels.pdb i believe is from www.cs.man.ac.uk/~hancockd/CityZen/installing.html Cityzen that is (i use the program on my IIIxe), by the way there are search engines, try google or yahoo or clusty.com on for size.. :) - http://clusty.com/search?query=Labels.pdb&tb=opensearch&

lbPG-Accounts.pdb - one referring to this page & one to antoher with a diff. language which might be what your looking for. - http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&query=lbPG-Accounts.pdb

MEDATA-SBN1.pdb and MEDATA-SBN2.pdb - same as ibpg - http://clusty.com/search?input-form=clusty-simple&v%3Asources=webplus&query=MEDATA-SBN1.pdb+and+MEDATA-SBN2.pdb

No mention of Centro?

I read about Centro in the Wall St Journal today, and there seems to be some buzz about it around the web. I don't see anything in Wikipedia, but I don't know enough to write anything myself. Surely someone here has some info to share ... Guanxi 00:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I thought it was awkward that it was missing so I added it! --Colin Zhang (talk) 11:06, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Please add to PDAs catagory

I noticed this article is missing from the PDAs category. Can someone please add the PDAs category Category:Personal digital assistants to it. I would do it myself, but this article is locked, so I cannot. Thanks. -- Kpr00 09:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Lack of Year information

There is no information on when previous models were released. --Kintaro (talk) 13:27, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Gone ahead and added stuff

I have gone ahead and added a little bit about the Centro and Treo 500v smartphones. I have also added a bit about the rumours of a new Treo. The intro to the page only mentioned the use of Palm OS so I also mentioned the Windows Mobile platform.

--Colin Zhang (talk) 11:02, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Gone ahead and add new discontinued models

I have added TX, TE2 and Z-22 as models no longer made, Alan Grassia has recorded that Palm no longer makes these models since March 2009: http://www.smartphonefanatics.com/2009/02/palm-halts-production-of-handhelds.html Philpalm (talk) 09:41, 1 August 2009 (UTC)philpalmPhilpalm (talk) 09:41, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

CPU

This is a class of RISC microprocessors that is widely used in mobile devices and embedded systems, and its design was influenced strongly by a popular 1970s/1980s CPU, the MOS Technology 6502.

Strongly? CPU's with 32 regs and mostly 1-t operations was influenced by CPU with 3 regs (relies to direct memory access instead of registers) and multi-t operations? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.80.172.26 (talk) 00:25, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is true, a quick Googling will show you, indeed the Wikipedia article on ARM discusses it. Back in the day when ARM was new this was well recognised. Clean design is one aspect. Endianness too from what I can remember. Register differences is not a good indicator, a counter indicator is the design of SWEET16, also the zero page of 6502 can be regarded as 256 registers. Also the designers of ARM worked on 6502 on the BBC micro machine. --19:25, 15 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.164.183.79 (talk)

Chronology and more information

How about fleshing out the table a bit and add launch date, memory size, initial and updated OS versions etc? As it is now it is hard to follow the progress, the data being scattered throughout the place. Using the existing table format makes for clear presentation. --19:28, 15 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.164.183.79 (talk)

Pics

I just added a pic of a palm IIIx on its page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PalmIIIxPDA.jpg Maybe add it to the timeline? P.S i have the OS 4.1 upgrade CD (in box) - I can put up a pic? james.bennet1@ntlworld.com (talk) 11:20, 12 December 2011 (UTC)