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I removed the designation of this article as a "stub". While it is brief, for a person with only 1 link to him anywhere on wikipedia, and who never lived to see his 20th birthday, I think it says enough. Of course, people should fell free to add to it if they wish. -R. fiend

What is missing here, is a source for Heuston's history. Also, I would like to know on whose orders he fought, or maybe some background on what he did during the Easter Rising. Soczyczi 08:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Year of birth[edit]

As far as I'm aware, he was born in 1891 not 1897. This link says 91, as does this book and this link. A Google search for "Sean Heuston" 1897 only seems to bring back Wikipedia, mirrors and dubious sources. Does everyone agree that the 1891 date is the correct one before I go off and change the 1891 and 1897 articles? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm responsible for the original date, but I can't recall what source I used. I'll go look through my books when I get a chance. As I recall, however, he was quite young (certainly the youngest executed). 1897 would make him 19, while 1891 would make him 25. For some reason the first one seems right to me, but seeming doesn't count for much. For all I know the original date I put in was a typo. Give me a day to look it up and if I can't find a source then make any changes you see fit. -R. fiend 23:42, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm definitely thinking the National 1916 Commemoration Committee would have the correct date, and it is supported by two other sources. Daly was born a few days later, so actually he was the youngest I think. No rush for checking, thanks. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 23:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I checked about a dozen books on 1916 and couldn't find a single reference to any year for his birth. I really don't recall where I got the original date (I think it was about 3 years ago I started the article). Peter de Rossa's Rebels describes him as a 25 year old, which would put his DOB right around 1891 (not that's it's really a good source, as it's historical fiction). I'm certainly ready to yield, though I'm really wondering where I got 1897 from. Maybe it was a typo. By the way, do you know anything about his real name? He's referred to as "J.J. Heuston" quite a few times, making me assume his first name was John (Sean being the standard translation), but apparently he had a brother named John, and he signed several letters as "Jack", which I always thought of as just another nickname for John. I guess Jack was his proper given name, though I'd like some confirmation of this. Any info? -R. fiend 01:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure on the JJ, although it can be found it quite a few places. The article does need changing slightly as well now his age has been changed, as the men he was with at the institute were about 14-17, so while it was about right when he was born in 1897 it's not any more. I'm planning to expand it slightly from the sources above anyway and possibly a couple of others, as there's definitely more information that can be added. I also need to change the foreign language Wikis as well seeing as the 1897 has unfortunately become so prevalent. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:57, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I may be able to shed some light on the issue of the name. I found a copy of a copy of what appears to be an official document from Kilmainham Jail, stating his name as John Joseph Heuston. However, the writing is very hard to make out. I'll try and post it up here as soon as I have access to a scanner. 81.178.83.56 (talk) 19:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 04:20, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New material[edit]

I will put together some of the last letters he wrote, and accounts given by his family. I will include some pictures also. --Domer48 21:16, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]