Talk:Hong Kong International Airport

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Changed 'dismantled' Kai Tak to 'retired' since the majority of the structure is there and functions as a bowling alley, car sales showroom and golf range. Fuzheado 07:01 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Skytrax survey

Can somebody please kindly add the following? I've tried to put it into the article but the administrators keep reverting.

==Awards== Skytrax - World best airport [http://www.passengersurveys.com/Airport/APT_2004.htm Source]

Singapore Changi Airport has also got a list of awards.

I don't see the problem with this. It looks like appropriately referenced information from a plausibly legitimate survey with a surprisingly high number of respondents. I guess there is a bit of a bias to some of the world's newest airports, but that is fair enough - they probably do serve the regular travellers well.

The editors reverting are not listed as Wikipedia:Administrators, just logged-in, named editors. Although vandalism and odd self-promotional edits often come from anonymous IP editors, a great many useful edits come from anonymous IPs too. (Even so, administrators don't have any special credence in editing most pages, they just have the ability to do some house-keeping tasks that aren't generally possible.) Does anyone care to explain the thinking behind the reverts? -- Solipsist 22:44, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks Solipsist. I don't know why it was reverted either. But obviously my edit was not welcome by the one who reverted it. Would anyone please kindly put it back into the article for me? Thanks in advance. -- 11:30, December 10, 2004, UTC

Well lets wait a little for any alternative views. Two different editors reverting often means there is a good reason - I just don't see it. -- Solipsist 12:35, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I guess it would be better to put it back and see whether to keep or to remove. -- 14:12, December 10, 2004, UTC

I don't find the award relevant for the purposes of an encyclopedia. Even then, leaving it as its own section makes the section a perpetual stub. Seconds should ideally be at least two paragraphs long. --Jiang 22:37, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I would have thought an awards section is useful enough information, as long as it contains genuine high profile awards. As our anon says, Singapore Changi Airport which is a strong Pacific Rim competitor, has a fair sized awards section. On the other hand, Schiphol Airport, which frequently used to win business traveller awards, doesn't. But I agree, if we only have one award to mention, its hardly worth having an Awards section, unless this the standard style for airport articles. I figured Chek Lap Kok would also have won an architectural award (Foster often gets them, and there are usually enough to go round), but the best I could find was Ove Arup getting the 'The Structural Steel Design Awards' in 1999, and Foster & Partners getting the 'Architectural Ironmongery Specification Awards' in 2000/2001 — I'm not sure these are worth mentioning. So the real question is, what is the standing of the Skytrax award, or rather what is the highest profile traveller's award and has it ever been given to HK International? -- Solipsist 06:35, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

There are quite a lot of awards and recognitions. But I only meant to add a stub temporarily, and kept being reverted while I am working to expand it. The Airport official website has got a page on the awards. Go check it, but it's a really long list :-P.

Chek Lap Kok (CLK) has the largest passenger terminal building, and is the most expensive airport construction project, according to Guiness World Records. It is also one of the top ten construction achievements of the 20th century Source.

CLK is also the airport handling the most international passengers and international cargo (domestic excluded). -- 10:47, December 11, UTC

Not so sure about the accuracy of this line. It is quite well known, that the busiest international airport in the world excluding domestic traffic is London Heathrow.--Huaiwei 14:45, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thakns for pointing out a typo. It's handling the third most international passengers and the most international cargo, excluding domestic traffic. -- 19:50, December 11, 2004, UTC

Btw, the former HKIA at Kai Tak was also the third busiest and busiest.

Interesting that this is discussed, but anyway, I am divided on this issue. I agree that the text in the Singapore Changi Airport page pertaining to wards is a tad over-drawn, especially when it seems to add mentions for each award garnered during that period. However, I agree with some of you, that mentioning the kind and quantity of awards garnered by the airport can be a good resource worthy of an encyclopedia, so long that it is presented with a balance of being comperhensive, yet being salient. I would, for example, strongly consider editing the list for Changi, by merely listing the number of awards gathered by year, and only selectively picking out the most prominent awards for a small eleboration, or if it has been consistently awarded.

We should, at the same time be dilligent enough in providing quantifiable parametres to the data presented. A single line of "Skytrax - World best airport" is clearly insufficient, when it dosent even state the year the award was conferred! It is no wonder that the line was deleted, in my opinion.--Huaiwei 14:41, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Well it was reverted even when a hyperlink of the source was added. -- 19:49, December 11, 2004, UTC

That is hardly sufficient as far as wikipedia is concerned. It is not the link which is important. It is the contents writtern FOR wikipedia!--Huaiwei 06:45, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I was just trying to do the same as other airports. -- 03:14, December 13, 2004, UTC

OK, well the link to the airport's own awards list [1] showing that it came first for four years running in Skytrax surveys persuades me that it is not nothing, although it is probably biased to airports which carry a large number of passengers (I suspect the survey is conducted by handing out leaflets at various airports and most people will just put down one of the two airports they are travelling between). Probably, the only other award worth mentioning is the World Travel Award in 2000. I'll put these into a paragraph in the article. -- Solipsist 08:24, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Just a moment. That commentary that the airport is the busiest international cargo airport....is there a source to validate it first? It might be a good idea to indicate the year for these stats.--Huaiwei 09:01, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Search by Google - "busiest international cargo airport" -- 17:26, December 12, 2004, UTC

Changed the text to reflect that HKIA is the busiet cargo airport annually since it opened in 1998. Now can anyone else give some quantified data in terms of years for the international passengers rankings?--Huaiwei 02:37, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

A section on awards?

Shall we add a section on awards, like Singapore Changi Airport#Awards and accolades? :-) — Instantnood 13:02, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

Adding overview picture

I think that we should adding overview picture for this airport, and other majority airport so that viewer can tell how big are them

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