Talk:Sapphire & Steel

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Removed POV comments[edit]

Yes, it was a very pretentious show, but also one that wasn't scared of being intellectual as well as hugely entertaining - this was popular prime-time viewing across the UK yet it raised questions about time and the universe around us.

Lee M 02:11, 5 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Episodes article[edit]

As there were only six episodes, do they need to be on a separate page? It doesn't seem that long a section, and it's not an overly long article. —Wh o uk (talk) 06:00, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Six episodes on television and eleven on the radio... and with any luck the episodes can be expanded quite a lot, too. I don't think separate pages is too big a problem. Not paper, remember :) Grutness...wha? 08:54, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, there were 34 episodes across 4 seasons. 2.31.162.51 (talk) 16:35, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

SF Or Fantasy[edit]

It can be argued as to whether S&S is science fiction or fantasy. Most of the material leans heavily towards fantasy, it is more the writing *style* and the motifs and nomenclature used that are from science fiction - for example Silver is referred to as a Technician. This is one thing that makes S&S a rather unique creation. I would suggest that the background universe is highly LoveCraftian in its axioms. Is there a strong feeling among fans that this is science fiction or fantasy? I love the whole thing for its incomparable wierdness, but I have to say I have come to the conclusion over time that this is fantasy cleverly dressed up in a science fiction motif. How do others feel? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.219.117.84 (talk) 06:23, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to Clarke's three laws, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." But, there may be other features that connect S&S tightly to fantasy. ——Nikolas Ojala (talk) 20:56, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Title sequence narrator[edit]

The article is completely wrong in respect of the speculation over the identity of the narrator of the title sequence. The narrator is Steve Hudson, a voice-over artist who is still working. However, editor Stephenb insists on reverting any edits which correct the information given, because it is not possible to link to a verifiable source (Steve Hudson's own website does not make any reference to his work on Sapphire & Steel). While I can understand that to a point, the fact remains that by reverting the edits, the article continues to perpetuate blatantly incorrect information, which is not exactly a desirable situation for any encyclopaedia. Hence I have completely removed that section.213.132.48.105 (talk) 13:27, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough by me. The paragraph you removed was, as you say, unreliable at best and also shouldn't have been there. If you can find somewhere reliable that says Steve Hudson did the VO, then by all means add it. But simply adding a link to his site was simply not on! Stephenb (Talk) 09:54, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is there not a credit for him at the end of the show? If there is then you can use that as a reference using {{Cite video}}. If there is no reliable secondary source available the this primary source will be acceptable under WP:NOR. AirRaidPatrol 84 (talk) 22:21, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If there was a credit for him at the end of the show, everyone and their wives must have missed it..! :) There is *no* source for any narrator AFAIK - the "source" the anon was trying to add was just a link to a voice-over artist, so it could not be called primary OR secondary! Stephenb (Talk) 19:13, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Episode Titles[edit]

I remember the show does not have actual episode titles, which I found odd at the time. Does anyone know if the DVD release have named the episodes in any way at all? --RedKnight (talk) 14:17, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They did not (and never had official titles anyway). IIRC the DVDs called the stories (not episodes) "Assignment One/Two/Three/etc." (instead of "Adventure") which at least is consistent with the opening narration, but hardly worth mentioning in the article. Stephenb (Talk) 19:10, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I ended up buying the DVD collection and confirmed. The DVDs are indicaded as Assignment I, Assignment II, Assignment III, etc. but the DVD boxes actually have the Assignments named as well. This information is probably worth adding the the article if there is agreement to do so. --RedKnight (talk) 22:51, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it would be ridiculous to suggest that the titles given on the DVD cases are not notable enough to mention their existence. It is still clearly stated that they were not the official titles at the time of airing. -- Noneofyourbusiness (talk) 13:38, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reception[edit]

Can we add information on how the show was critically received? Considering the stars, there should be some commentary somewhere.(mercurywoodrose)50.193.19.66 (talk) 15:40, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there's plenty - pretty much all I've seen is positive. I'll look into it. I'm going to do a cleanup of the article. At the moment it looks a mess with too many sections and boxes.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 09:01, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The end of the tv series left us with that crunching unfinished business fealing. Could it be that the tamborine was also a means of travel used by the last trancient being to arrive at the scene? Could they get to it? And where did Silver go? Would it not be great if they made a small episode showing the escape after being locked in there for so long? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.137.6.162 (talk) 15:34, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Elements[edit]

From what I recall of school Chemistry... neither sapphire nor steel are elements. Steel is an alloy and sapphire is a sort of carbon gemstone or something ... so when the article says:

"They are two of several elements"

This is not really accurate. Not sure what it should be changed to though... the series obviously is using kind of basic/raw materials in principle? Am I just nitpicking? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.192.72.11 (talk) 17:33, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sapphire is a corundum gem, as is ruby. Corundum is a form of aluminum oxide, with the colors provided by impurities. Jet, which is also mentioned, is a carbon jem, and a precursor to coal. I've always taken the references to the gemstones as elements to be nothing more than a bit of artistic license. JDZeff (talk) 21:30, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Opening narration - Serial 6[edit]

Yesterday I saw the first episode of the final serial on the TV channel London Live, which is broadcasting the entire series. Much to my surprise, the opening narration said "Gold, Mercury, Copper ..." rather than "Gold, Lead, Copper ..." Can anyone shed any light on this? It should be mentioned in the article, if we can find a reliable source. LenF54 (talk) 13:02, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.davidmccallumfansonline.com/starburst/starburst.htm seems to be unreliable as it states David Suchet did the narration. LenF54 (talk) 13:26, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]