Talk:Real Gone (album)

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Political content

Could anybody possibly explain why "Hois That Rag" and "Sins of My Father" are mentioned in the article as songs with political content? I don't see anything political in them, so I'd be glad if the author of the article commented on it in some way.

MichalKotowski (talk) 07:55, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Miscellanea section

The "Miscellanea" section is a lot like a trivia section, and should be removed as trivia sections are discouraged on Wikipedia.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.246.23 (talk • contribs) (03:27, 3 November 2008)

That which is trivial should probably be removed, what is not trivial, however, should be integrated into the article. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 04:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Genres

I started a discussion here of the genres on Tom Waits albums. I encourage all interested editors to participate. Thanks. ---RepublicanJacobite_TheFortyFive 16:11, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Page move

I object to this page move, which was done without discussion. I request that the article be moved back to its original place, and that a discussion commence as to whether the move is justified and necessary. The page view statistics indicate that the album article received many more views than the page about the Sheryl Crow song. I would submit that the album is the primary topic. ---RepublicanJacobite_TheFortyFive 16:39, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 14:15, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

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Real Gone (album) → Real Gone – I request that this page be moved back to its previous position, and that the current Real Gone, which is now an unnecessary dab page, be deleted, per WP:TWODABS. Page view statistics for the month of June indicate that when the album article was in its previous position, it received many more page views than Real Gone (song), which is the only other article with this title. The long-standing status quo should be restored. Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 13:02, 17 July 2012 (UTC) ---RepublicanJacobite_TheFortyFive 16:59, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Are you saying that when the album was at Real Gone, that it received more pageviews than Real Gone (song)? Because that's not evidence of primacy -- anyone searching for the song by looking up "Real Gone" would have gone through the album article first, which would inflate that article's pageview numbers. The real question is how pageviews have changed since the move. Powers ^T 17:38, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Well then, let's determine that. ---RepublicanJacobite_TheFortyFive 14:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

It appears that the disambiguation page is getting about 1/3 of the pageviews that the album article used to when it was at the base title. The song is still getting about the same, also about 1/3. Per WP:TWODABS, we don't need a disambiguation page, so I (reluctantly; the song is good) support the proposal. Powers ^T 01:33, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose – no obvious reason why either topic should be considered primary over the other. Leave it a dab page. Dicklyon (talk) 06:19, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, there is an obvious reason, as Powers has pointed out above: more people are searching for the album than the song. As I said above, per WP:TWODABS, the dab page should be deleted and the previous status quo should be restored. ---RepublicanJacobite_TheFortyFive 13:05, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

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Requested move 2

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The result of the move request was: No move. Cúchullain ^t/c 16:13, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

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Real Gone → Real Gone (album) – I'm not really convinced that this album by Tom Waits is the primary topic that people may be looking for. Even with great numbers, the article does not convince me that it really achieves long-term significance. The song by Sheryl Crow may not have long-term significance or popularity, but the album... I can't find songs that can age well or be worth listening today. Maybe the article can be improved to prove how and why the album is good or bad, but this isn't the case. --George Ho (talk) 02:15, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

• Support per DickLyon in previous underpopulated RM – "no obvious reason why either topic should be considered primary over the other. Leave it a dab page." Dicklyon (talk) 06:19, 21 July 2012 (UTC). Plus the fact that the Cheryl Crow song is higher than the bestselling song from the Tom Waits album on Amazon.com mp3 charts, minus that the album has 1210 GBH to the song's 469 GBH, but that's just a reality check. Mainly for what DickLyon says. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:21, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Cf. most early hits in GB from the 1950s and 1960s are for wikt:real gone and Gone Records, formerly known as Real Gone. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:11, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose. If there are only two relevant topics, one or the other should be primary, per WP:TWODABS. The album got three times (7,089 / 2,323) more page views in the last 90 days. Kauffner (talk) 18:38, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose. While it might be true neither will have long term significance as per the nom, it it noteworthy that while the album is older (and thus, perhaps less relevant), yet it still has higher numbers. And even if every single person looking for the song first got the album page, the stats would still be in the albums favor. Since there is only two articles, a DAB would be uncalled for, and simply retaining the existing hatnote seems sufficient. Tiggerjay (talk) 20:10, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

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