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Voting Rules in the Council

Surprised that there is nothing really on decision making procedure... For example, as seen from other sites, qualified majority etc voting may be same as with Council of Ministers (Council of the European Union), but should surely be stated as being such, or otherwise, here? (Yes, even if consensus in "conclusions" is the usual way!)

Oddly, at time of writing before letting them know about it, the EU's own Consilium site does not inform on this either (only does so for the Council of Ministers). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:B340:80:2713:DDAC:1587:48D1:BC10 (talk) 15:33, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

European party affiliation of members of the Council

Hi all,

Currently, the "members" section provides pictures of all members of the European Council with information, including their national party and European Parliament political group affiliations. These are useful and needed information. However, it does not include the European party affiliation, which is relevant in its own right, especially since European parties are getting are increasingly big role in coordinating positions on the European Council (see research by the European Parliament Research Service ). I would therefore like to add this information in the table but, before I do so, wanted to get some feedback from the community.

Thanks! Julius Schwarz (talk) 06:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there is a tendency here on Wikipedia to use the political groups of the European Parliament instead of European political parties for labelling members of the European Council and the European Commission. This despite the fact that the political groups formally speaking only exist within the organization of the European Parliament. --Nablicus (talk) 07:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Nablicus, you are right and I do think this is unfortunate, given the extra-parliamentary role of parties and intra-parliamentary role of poitical groups. But, admittedly, it is not just on Wikipedia -- as most media do the same -- and, since parliamentary groups currently have more visibility than European parties, there is value in displaying the political group affiliation of national leaders. This being said, I don't think it's either/or, and I think European party affiliation can be added alongside the information already present. Would you support that? Julius Schwarz (talk) 07:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

I totally support that. --Nablicus (talk) 07:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I hope we can gather more supportive feedback. The same reasoning would actually apply to the college of commissioners, as you point out. Julius Schwarz (talk) 07:39, 17 June 2024 (UTC)