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Discussion for Today[edit]

This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_May_26

May 26[edit]

NEW NOMINATIONS[edit]

Category:Murdered Australian rules footballers[edit]

Propose deleting Category:Murdered Australian rules footballers (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining 3x intersection between cause of death, occupation, and specific sport within that occupation. (Delete instead of merge because Murdered sportspeople only has this category in it, and has the same intersection issue) Mason (talk) 03:15, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lists of films by date[edit]

Propose merging Category:Lists of films by date to Category:Lists of films

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I don't agree that it is redundant, it helps keep the parent category less crowded.★Trekker (talk) 13:17, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is 14 or 15 subcategories, that does not make the difference. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:43, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/him) 03:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mountaineering organizations[edit]

Propose merging Category:Mountaineering organizations to Category:Climbing organizations

Nominator's rationale: These are both climbing and mountaineering organizations so the separation is no longer useful, better to have one single category called Category:Climbing and mountaineering organizations Aszx5000 (talk) 20:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge the two to Category:Climbing and mountaineering organizations, they are very overlapping. I will tag Category:Climbing organizations too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's proposal?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/him) 03:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging @Aszx5000: for thoughts on the discussions relisted today. House Blaster (talk · he/him) 03:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why relist when Marcocapelle and myself are in agreement on all of them? thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 10:39, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We are both saying the same thing? Aszx5000 (talk) 10:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Works about mountaineering[edit]

Propose merging Category:Works about mountaineering to Category:Works about climbing

Nominator's rationale: As per the recent CfD on Category:Climbing and mountaineering books, the Category:Works about mountaineering should be merged into Category:Works about climbing, which should then be renamed as Category:Works about climbing and mountaineering. Aszx5000 (talk) 19:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge the two to Category:Works about climbing and mountaineering, they are very overlapping. I will tag Category:Works about climbing too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's proposal?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/him) 03:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mountaineering films[edit]

Propose merging Category:Mountaineering films to Category:Climbing films

Nominator's rationale: As per the recent CfD on Category:Climbing and mountaineering books, the Category:Mountaineering films should be merged into Category:Climbing films, which itself should be renamed as Category:Climbing and mountaineering films. Aszx5000 (talk) 19:52, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge the two to Category:Climbing and mountaineering films, they are very overlapping. I will tag Category:Climbing films too. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's proposal?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/him) 03:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Invasions by country[edit]

Propose upmerging Category:Invasions by country to Category:Invasions and Category:Wars by country involved

Nominator's rationale: This category will never have more than its current 2 subcategories: Category:Invasions by country invaded‎ and Category:Invasions by invading country‎. It exists only by virtue of the ambiguous meaning of the word "country", which is only explained by the two subcategories. It therefore does not aid navigation, and should be upmerged to its parents so that direct navigation to the subcategories is possible. NLeeuw (talk) 20:50, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly oppose. "This category will never have more than its current 2 subcategories"? Check again, your argument is invalidated. AHI-3000 (talk) 21:29, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's just stacking the category with grandchild categories. It really doesn't aid navigation. It remains a redundant layer. NLeeuw (talk) 23:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dimadick: What do you think about this? AHI-3000 (talk) 17:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge as nominated and delete all new subcats, merely creating extra container categories doesn't improve navigation between related articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:32, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support deleting all new subcats as nom. I don't know if I should tag them as well, but I think we should make clear to the creator that creating new subcats isn't very helpful in the middle of a CFD, and in fact somewhat disruptive. (There is probably a guideline against it, but I can't find it right now). I would ask @AHI-3000: to please stop creating new subcategories of this category for the duration of this CFD. Thanks in advance. NLeeuw (talk) 23:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Nederlandse Leeuw: Then cite which specific rule is against doing that. Your initial claim was that this category cannot grow larger than 2 subcats. AHI-3000 (talk) 01:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Evidently I was mistaken, for one could technically populate the category without actually solving the semantic and navigational issues I highlighted. NLeeuw (talk) 06:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and delete subcats Per WP:NARROWCAT. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AHI-3000: if you were just trying to make a point it would be the most elegant solution if you would tag the new subcategories as G7. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: G7? AHI-3000 (talk) 06:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:G7. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
'Merge per nom. I don't see a reason to create multiple subcategories of Category:Invasions with little difference from the parent category. Dimadick (talk) 17:59, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag the subcategories of Category:Invasions by country. As it stands, I currently am reading consensus to merge Category:Invasions by country as nominated and delete the subcategories (though, of course, consensus can evolve).
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/him) 02:59, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Crystal City, Arlington, Virginia[edit]

Propose renaming: Category:Crystal City, Arlington, Virginia should be changed to Category:Crystal City, Virginia so that it is consistent with the primary page, which is Crystal City, Virginia. Thanks. Keystone18 (talk) 20:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting per request; I will tag the category.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, House Blaster (talk · he/him) 02:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]