Talk:Seventeen Seconds

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Cover[edit]

I am sorry to say that posting the album cover here seems to be a copyvio plain and simple. --Daniel C. Boyer 16:04, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)

it's not, though.W guice 02:27, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

<^>v!!This album is connected!!v<^>[edit]

POV[edit]

I'm a big Cure fan but this is simply POV:

'The result is an inspired and inspirational record, and a far cry from a typical commercial musical product of the time.'

Also I heard that the master tapes of this album were accidently destroyed. Is that true?

drums on album - not Lol?[edit]

Ever since I bought the album years ago I've suspected the drums were all pre-programmed on a Boss DR-220A drum machine (or something with a similar sound); and that the only live "drums" were Lol playing the odd cymbal crash through a wah-wah pedal, or a couple live drum fills in "A Forest". Anyone know if this is true? There certainly seems to be little in the way of real drums on any Cure album from this to Pornography. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 19:12, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They certainly sound sequenced. It's been a long time since I read all the cure biographies, but I think I remember that the venerable Mr Smith said once that they were all live, in contrast to Pornography where there are a couple of sequenced tracks. Of course he says lots of things and isn't particularly consistent. Thehalfone (talk) 07:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
thats lol for you. He was a very old fashioned drummer in his delivery --A Chain of Flowers (talk) 15:47, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In the following Sound on Sound article, producer Mike Hedges describes the type of mics used to give the drums their cold sterile sound on that album, suggesting that the drums were in fact played live. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.164.101 (talk) 17:26, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

Master tapes- washing machine magnet[edit]

I'm tempted to remove the sentence in the section about the 2005 re-release stating that the master tapes were erased by a washing machine magnet. This sentence went uncited for months and the current citation mentions nothing about this. The cited article mentions the home demos on the second CD being rough possibly due to "various stories about boxes being left (and warped) by Mike Hedges’ washing machine." Quite a different situation than the Seventeen Seconds master tapes being erased due to a washing machine magnet. Is this washing machine incident some well known story that I'm unaware of? If so, can it be better verified? Stangbat (talk) 02:36, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is fairly well known, I'm sure if you did a google search you'd find something about it. --JD554 (talk) 10:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I Googled it and the evidence is pretty sparse. A couple of mentions of the washing machine, an interview with Smith full of rumor that mentions the tapes disappearing and reappearing minus "The Walk" and "A Forest". I know strange things happen in the music world regarding master tapes but I find this all rather hard to believe. There are too many differing stories and inconsistencies. And regardless, the given citation does not support the current statement in the article. Stangbat (talk) 01:33, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, the given citation does not support the statement. I think it should be replaced with 'citation needed', any objections? Scatterkeir (talk) 22:47, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Frankie Rose – Seventeen Seconds full album cover[edit]

Frankie Rose – Seventeen Seconds was released Dec 2017. Is this worth inclusion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roy Szweda (talkcontribs) 12:08, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]