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Is Mt Dov really the same as Shebaa Farms?[edit]

Is Mt Dov really the same as Shebaa Farms? Isn't it rather correct to say that Mt Dov is a small mountain or hill whose western slopes, or part of them, are known as the Sh. Farms? Is the peak with the IDF base part of Sh. F.? What about the eastern slopes, or saddle? The "Terminology" section can be understood in several different ways: "Kafr Shuba Hills" suggests a multitude of hills (plural), "the wide mountainous ridge" - well, that's a wide ridge, while satellite images and topographic maps of "Har Dov (Mount Dov)" show a clearly-defined single cone-shaped hill, with a road leading to its isolated peak, where the IDF base most likely stands (see "Har Dov" on MapCarta). NOT the same by any stretch. Arminden (talk) 05:11, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is a common practice to use the name of a local topographic feature to refer to the area around it. Thus, the fact that Har Dov is a particular hill doesn't at all imply that referring to the neighborhood as Har Dov is wrong. (Example: many cases of "Wadi X" refer to areas much more extensive than the particular watercourse of that name.) More generally, customary naming practice does not confirm to the sort of logic you are trying to apply to it. Anyway the article doesn't mean they are the same in a strict geographic sense; it just means that in Israel the Sheba Farms are called Har Dov, which seems to be true. Some of the references do that, and you can search on 'site:il "Har Dov"' to find many more. The Hebrew wiki has the same statement. (Sometimes it is "Har Dov area" or "Har Dov sector", but usually not.) I'm removing your tag. Zero^talk 08:04, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tweaks to the introduction for balance and clarity[edit]

I suggest:

Documents from the 1920s and 1930s indicate that inhabitants paid taxes to the Lebanese government, while maps of the French Mandate from the 1930s and 1940s show the area as part of Syria. Syria was the de facto ruling power from the end of the French Mandate in 1946 until Israel's occupation of the Golan Heights in the Six-Day War.

10:28, 16 October 2023 (UTC) Utilisateur19911 (talk) 10:28, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It’s Lebanese territory that is occupied. This is not disputed at all.[edit]

The occupation of Shebaa is not disputed. Lead paragraph is misleading. Lebanesebebe123 (talk) 13:51, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I clarified what had become muddled over the years. nableezy - 14:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Looks great Lebanesebebe123 (talk) 05:30, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Misspelled Word[edit]

Occupied is written as occupued thanks to 13 day old edit. 68.180.95.120 (talk) 01:43, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, thanks. Zero^talk 02:52, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

fix text[edit]

In 1981, the Golan Heights, including the Shebaa Farms, were annexed by Israel, a move only recognized by the United States. Israel considers it part of the Golan Heights ++++AND++++ continues to hold it, along with the Golan, under military occupation. please add the word 'AND' above, or whatever is required. Wikiqrdl (talk) 22:59, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

fixed. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 07:05, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]