Talk:Joan Bates

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I understand that there is controversy about the Sealand article in general, but is there any reason this one-sentence article shouldn't redirect there? Joyous 02:24, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)

No. —No-One Jones (m) 03:34, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)


Styles Error[edit]

She was Ms. Joan Bates from birth though she was born Joan Collins? Something needs adjusting. 154.5.153.168 (talk) 20:55, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I have corrected that. Edwardx (talk) 21:08, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I notice that she (and other Sealanders) claimed the style of Royal Highness. Does that make sense? A style normally derives from the type of ruler who heads the house - a king's children use Royal Highness (Roy = King in Norman French), an emperor's children use Imperial Highness (Imperator = Emperor in Latin) etc. The Bates, though, call themselves royal while only claiming Sealand as a Principality. Surely Serene Highness, Princely Highness or even just Highness would be more appropriate - unless, of course, it's a pun on Roy who founded the place. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 17:15, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a real country, so the titles don't exist. It doesn't really matter if they called themselves the Grand Master Poobahs of Sealand - it has the same basis in reality (i.e. none). 2A00:23C7:8905:CC01:B8E1:EC33:4C7F:1E2 (talk) 13:31, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notability[edit]

I really don’t see why Joan Bates has her own article. Her notability is purely based on her marriage to someone who claims to be the ruler of his own principality. She isn’t notable in her own right. 2A01:4C8:444:C252:B57B:5FD8:5D71:ED00 (talk) 04:55, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]