Talk:Abrahamic religions

Judaism Section of Article Needs Update

It's essential to maintain accuracy and objectivity while presenting information. To address the portrayal of Judaism in the article it should reflects scholarly consensus and respects the diversity within Judaism itself.

Firstly, the article's portrayal of Judaism as derivative of Canaanite religions during the Bronze Age oversimplifies the intricate development of Israelite religious thought. While acknowledging historical connections, it's important to emphasize the distinctiveness of Israelite monotheism and its evolution from polytheistic roots to a unique covenantal relationship with Hashem or as you call it here, Yahweh. Scholars recognize Judaism's contributions to ethical monotheism and its enduring impact on world religions.

Secondly, the comparison between Judaism and Christianity, particularly regarding interpretations of Abraham's faith, requires clarification. While Pauline theology indeed emphasizes faith over legalism, it's essential to recognize diverse interpretations within Judaism regarding Abraham's role and the significance of religious law. Judaism's emphasis on mitzvot (commandments) and the covenantal relationship with God remains central to its theological identity, fostering continuity and ethical responsibility within Jewish communities.

Moreover, the article should acknowledge Judaism's response to historical challenges such as the destruction of the Second Temple and the diaspora experience. Judaism's resilience and adaptability, evidenced by the development of Rabbinic Judaism and the preservation of religious traditions, underscore its enduring vitality and relevance in contemporary contexts.

Overall, the portrayal of Judaism in the article should reflect scholarly rigor and sensitivity to diverse perspectives within the Jewish tradition. By providing accurate historical context and acknowledging Judaism's theological complexity and continuity, the encyclopedia entry can contribute to a more nuanced understanding of Jewish history and religious thought. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nycarchitecture212 (talk • contribs) 01:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

There is nothing at Abrahamic religions#Judaism which isn't mainstream academic knowledge. If you seek to remove mainstream academic knowledge from Wikipedia, you're in for a rocky ride. tgeorgescu (talk) 01:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Anti-Jewish and Anti-Christian but Islamaphilic

I read this article and it reads like a Islamic definition of the Abrahamic faiths. Natean (talk) 04:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Okay can you please provide any examples of alleged Anti-Judaism, anti-Christian, or Islamophobic?CycoMa1 (talk) 04:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

@Natean also can you provide any sources that say this article is all this stuff you’re claiming it is?CycoMa1 (talk) 04:41, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Yup, fundamentalist and very conservative Christians think that mainstream Bible scholarship would be Islamophilic. That's mainly because they didn't have read academic books about the Bible and religion. The mainstream Quran scholarship would be destructive to fundamentalist Islam, and generally speaking, the lives of mainstream scholars of the Quran are endangered by Islamist fanatics, who think the scholars spread the work of apostasy. It is unsafe to practice lower criticism or higher criticism in Islamic countries. Islamists go ballistic when scholars prove there are mistakes in the Quran. If you are a bibliolatrist, mainstream scholarship desecrates your holy book. tgeorgescu (talk) 07:08, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

"That's mainly because they didn't have read academic books about the Bible and religion." Tgeorgescu, I don't think that fundamentalists have the literacy skills required to read books intended for an adult audience. In any case, why would we care what these reactionaries have to say about religious texts? Dimadick (talk) 12:04, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Judaism as an independent religion.

Judaism need to be independent religion because Moses is central figure and all these prophets of Hebrew bible are Jewish stories Abraham found monotheism which is important part of Judaism and Jews his convental children's from Jacob Judaism is independent religion also Christianity is independent they believe in Trinity it need to be sect of Judaism religion islam is not Abraham all it's stories are different than judeo Christians so it is arabian religion which came from Judaism Christianity and Zoroastrianism stories founded by Muhammad. 154.198.105.197 (talk) 12:16, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Bahaism

Bahaism is fourth Abrahamic religion founded by Prophet bahaullah and it's holy book is Aqdas. Bahaullah is deceandant of Abraham through keturah's son like islam also known as mohamednism Abrahamic Arabian religion claims Prophet Muhammad is from Ishmael. Bahaism it is monotheistic religion from Persia it have almost 10M registered followers and is fastest growing religion too. It's scholars says don't ignore this religion add this religion with it's star logo. Itsmeahadoo (talk) 06:53, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

I did not know that Bahaism was a religion but this article is so inaccurate it is unbelievable, this is from the perspective of a religious jew on the Judaism section, so I can assume the other sections are inaccurate as well. 2603:3020:24A1:E200:8843:2C81:A460:C9C4 (talk) 16:48, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Judaism

Judaism's portrayal in this article is inaccurate in multiple ways. To start, Judaism was not a combination of Canaanite religions, it was a separate religion that is monotheistic. All of the references to multiple gods in the text are inaccurate and derived from a mistaken translation. The names, El, Elohim, the four letter name Yud Hay Vav Hay etc. are all names for the same god, they refer to him in his different states, Elohim being god but when he is in a state of judgement, ad0nai being god as our master etc. These are just 4 or 5 of 72 different names of god found in Judaism, with Hashem being the most common/casual way to refer to him outside of prayer because it means literally Ha Shem, the name. There are many inaccuracies in this text and if you did as much research as going to the Wikipedia page for Judaism you would see this is incorrect. My source is that I am a born and raised orthodox Jew who studies Torah every day and while I am not the smartest person alive these are basic concepts in our religion that are taught to children. Please fix this as I am not qualified to make changes to this document. 2603:3020:24A1:E200:8843:2C81:A460:C9C4 (talk) 16:46, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Bahai faith is Abrahamic religion

"Hello everyone, I would like to propose the inclusion of the Bahá'í Faith in the category of Abrahamic religions within this Wikipedia article. The Bahá'í Faith shares significant historical and theological connections with the Abrahamic traditions, including belief in one God, the importance of ethical conduct, and the notion of progressive revelation. Additionally, numerous scholars and religious studies experts classify the Bahá'í Faith as an Abrahamic religion due to its roots in the Abrahamic tradition and its inclusion of figures such as Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad in its teachings. The symbol of the Bahá'í Faith, the 9-pointed star, represents the unity of the world's major religions and the harmony of their teachings. I believe that including the Bahá'í Faith in this category would provide a more comprehensive and accurate portrayal of religious diversity within the article. I welcome your feedback and discussion on this proposal." 154.198.98.60 (talk) 10:56, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Baha'i Faith is officially Abrahamic religion

"Hello everyone, I would like to propose the inclusion of the Bahá'í Faith in the category of Abrahamic religions within this Wikipedia article. The Bahá'í Faith shares significant historical and theological connections with the Abrahamic traditions, including belief in one God, the importance of ethical conduct, and the notion of progressive revelation. Additionally, numerous scholars and religious studies experts classify the Bahá'í Faith as an Abrahamic religion due to its roots in the Abrahamic tradition and its inclusion of figures such as Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad in its teachings. The symbol of the Bahá'í Faith, the 9-pointed star, represents the unity of the world's major religions and the harmony of their teachings. I believe that including the Bahá'í Faith in this category would provide a more comprehensive and accurate portrayal of religious diversity within the article. I welcome your feedback and discussion on this proposal." 2404:3100:1412:657B:9C7D:DF59:630B:DF40 (talk) 10:57, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

if Islam is Abrahamic Baha'i faith is too if it isn't then all are independent.

"Hello everyone, I would like to propose the inclusion of the Bahá'í Faith in the category of Abrahamic religions within this Wikipedia article. The Bahá'í Faith shares significant historical and theological connections with the Abrahamic traditions, including belief in one God, the importance of ethical conduct, and the notion of progressive revelation. Additionally, numerous scholars and religious studies experts classify the Bahá'í Faith as an Abrahamic religion due to its roots in the Abrahamic tradition and its inclusion of figures such as Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad in its teachings. The symbol of the Bahá'í Faith, the 9-pointed star, represents the unity of the world's major religions and the harmony of their teachings. I believe that including the Bahá'í Faith in this category would provide a more comprehensive and accurate portrayal of religious diversity within the article. I welcome your feedback and discussion on this proposal." 2404:3100:1412:657B:9C7D:DF59:630B:DF40 (talk) 11:02, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Add bahai faith

Bahai faith is Abrahamic religion too 2404:3100:1443:C40D:684D:71AB:EAF1:CC4C (talk) 18:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)