User talk:GUllman

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Lists

Hello again. I am in the middle of a dsicussion about lists and charts of lists. Please contribute at Talk:Wikipedia policy on charts if you have any comments. user:mydogategodshat

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List of books

Hello! For your list of books, you might want to check out Western canon. - Efghij 00:38, Aug 23, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks Efghij, I was already aware of it. After all, it was one of the first links I placed on List of books. I'm going through all the lists one at a time, and will get to it in turn. GUllman 05:13, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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El Metro de México

You're probably right about not every station deserving an article (although the Londoners seem to have managed). But putting all the links in on the list page at least allowed me to establish a uniform naming system! Thanks for helping out with first one. –Hajor 22:17, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)

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Hats

Hi, thanks for your edit on list of hats and headgear, it's very patchy at the moment.  :) I was wondering why you removed Cardinal's Hat though? Cheers, fabiform | talk 22:26, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Because a bishop/cardinal's hat is called a 'miter', which was already on the list. Although it was misspelled 'mitre', which I just corrected, and I added bishop's hat in parentheses after it. I think the uncommon words should have a short definition afterward so people don't have to click on all the links if they don't know what the hat they have in mind is called. GUllman 20:23, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Well, this list aims to (eventually) cover hats for all periods and cultures, so a couple words after each link (and eventually more sub-divisions) will be a very good idea.

I'm going to put "cardinal's hat" back though as it is the name of an older style of hat a cardinal used to wear (CARDINAL'S HAT (from 13c.) Red hat with short, rounded crown and broad flat brim. Rank was designated by the number of tassels which terminated the cords.[1]).

By the way, miter/mitre can be spelled either way, so we might as well include both to avoid confusion. I've just discovered that a mitre can be several different kinds of headgear, including an Egyptian headdress. The scope of this project it quite daunting! I'm going to copy and paste this conversation into the talk page since it probably deserves to be preserved/continued there.  :) fabiform | talk 20:43, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

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Number pages

Hi,

I would like you to reconsider your vote on the inclusion of articles about numbers on Wikipedia. I am not opposed to number articles per se, but I am opposed to the trivial cultural properties which have been heaped upon many of these articles.

My rationale is that numbers are such a fundamental part of human culture, an article that lists all these associations would have proportions probably larger than all of Wikipedia taken together. To give you an example, Google returns 209,000,000 hits for the number 100 alone.

Please take a look at 1 (number)#Other fields. This is the type of lists I am referring to. Right now the article arbitrarily lists a few things where the number one has some significance: a DVD region, a personality test, a slang term (Wikipedia is not a dictionary), American currency, a single dial code, several roads ...

If you think this information is valuable I am probably wasting my time. But I hope that after looking at several of these pages you will agree that these kind of lists make a joke of Wikipedia. They will always be arbitrary, they will always be in violation of the rules of Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not (list repository, dictionary), and they will seriously damage our reputation.

If you see a compromise option which is not currently included in the poll, please add it. But please do not give these triva lists your rubber stamp of approval.—Eloquence 11:14, Feb 22, 2004 (UTC)

It appears some people have the misconception that you, GUllman, cast your votes lightly without any thought. But I know better. Your user contributions page shows that you work in a methodical, thoughtful manner. Your procedures for the number pages 20 - 90 set precedents that are still followed today. It follows, reasonably, that you vote seriously and thoughtfully, in a manner that is the complete opposite of a "rubber stamp." PrimeFan 22:07, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I started setting up space for the number articles last October, and the discussion has elevated this far in only four months. Wikipedia is not a task with a blueprint and an immediate deadline -- is a unique volunteer experiment in community decision-making that explores the limits and usefulness of hypertext linking. We cannot predict the path that a user's thought process will follow, so the more links we provide, the better. The number articles have not just increased in number -- the content and layout has evolved and is still evolving. Four months is too young to cut an experiment short -- let it grow and mature in the coming years, and it will prune itself as useless, forgotten parts wither and die. GUllman 04:12, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)

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Heads of state by year

I agree that the heads of state is a neat idea. User:Jonel has made a start of it, but only with a limited number of states, in the year pages. Please feel free to go ahead and make further pages. rulers.org or worldstatesmen.org are good resources. john 18:54, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, I will. But slooooowly. GUllman 19:49, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Yup, that's my plan, as well. john 00:55, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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2004 Pulitzer Prize

Why did you list 2004 Pulitzer Prize as a copyright violation? If that's a violation, then so is every awards list on Wikipedia, such as all the Grammy pages. Ambivalenthysteria 12:36, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

(Example of entry from 2004 Pulitzer Prize copied from www.pulitzer.org:)

• beat reporting: Daniel Golden, Wall Street Journal, for his compelling and meticulously documented stories on admission preferences given to the children of alumni and donors at American universities.

The list of people and books that won is factual and can be copied, but the annotations are the creative expression of the writer, and are protected by copyright. Words like 'compelling' and 'meticulously documented' are clearly the opinions of the spokesperson, not the Wikipedia contributor. In case you didn't know, if a newspaper reporter receives a press release (which is what this is) or a wire from AP or UP, no matter how brief, the reporter is obliged to rewrite the story in his own words for publication in his newspaper. GUllman 17:18, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

P.S. One way to get around this issue is to simply put quotation marks around each the annotations. GUllman 18:08, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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ISBD article and ISBD (or other) all over the place

If you were to put up a proposal (or the start of a discussion) for using the International Standard Bibliographic Description or ISBD (in some form or other) or some other standard for getting a good handle on articles which describe books, where would you place it? I was thinking of putting it on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels discussion page since the Infobox controversy for books was indrectly discussed there. I would announce it elsewhere too. But where? The appearance of a book-related Infobox in the article onComics and Sequential Art got me started on this path, along with a recent flowering of articles related to book collecting. In a sense, my putting together the ISBD article a few hours ago, with parts from the Catalog article was my first step towards this. AlainV 07:04, 2004 Apr 27 (UTC)

There really should be a Wikipedia:WikiProject Books as a parent project of Novels, Comics and other literary Wikiprojects. And you wrote a good article on ISBD. However, I'm hesitant to require an ISBD in all book articles. Requiring too much formatting might kill WikiProject Books just as people are reluctant to contribute to Wiktionary -- it would place all the burden of researching the info for each book on the few people (you and me?) who know ISBD format well enough. If you want a standard description in the Infobox, then show them how to cite the book for a bibliography using Chicago Manual of Style which more people know how to write -- and so those who don't know can learn. GUllman 17:48, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I started Wikipedia Wikiproject books to continue this. AlainV 02:58, 2004 Apr 28 (UTC)

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A crowd of two?

We have a gaggle of geese, a flock of birds, and so on. What do you call many librarians? Since I have a two year MLS diploma I suppose I am part of that crowd. The reason the crowd is thin has probably much to do with certain ressemblances between Wikipedia and some things particular kinds of librarians just can't stand.

• Wikipedia sometimes looks a lot like a product from a Vanity press because its contents don't go through a traditional publishing process and it is given away free. Selection librarians, collection development librarians and head librarians see red just when they hear "vanity press", because it reminds them of the problems they have just in refusing "books" that come out of them.
• Wikipedia is produced by volunteers. Librarians who are responsible for public libraries in small (or medium sized) towns often have severe staffing issues, and sooner or later persons on the town council or the Library Board suggest that volunteers could help out instead of slinging money at the problem. In most cases the trouble begins right there, because volunteers are usually not willing or able to receive the needed training or the sole librarian does not have enough of 24 hours in a day to do that training in addition to her/his job. Librarian then cries on shoulders of former library school colleagues and volunteers get a bad reputation in library circles. This is repeated endlessly all over North America.
• Wikipedia metadata looks like a chaotic information stream coming out of a madhouse, to the eyes of a cataloguing librarian. Those cataloguers go mad when they see a single semi-colon or ". blank - blank" (also known as dot space dash space) out of place in an AACR2R derived entry, so you can imagine what they feel like when they take a look at our bibliographic descriptions. Fortunately, reference librarians are made of stronger stuff, given their position at the "trenches" of the reference desks, and I have seen so much worse in archives, records management centers, and Web site design committees that I don't think there is anything to despair about, yet. There is still some hope for Wikipedia. AlainV 07:29, 2004 May 6 (UTC)

An index of librarians? I'm pleased to see that you like Wikipedia enough to seriously consider the need for improvement. You are not alone in understanding the need for better metadata; there is a name-value pair scheme being considered on the developers lists which should soon provide a platform for improved metadata. We can really use your help. -- The Anome 07:56, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

A collection of librarians? The rant on my User page is a result of Wikiaddiction and Wikiburnout at the same time. So many new articles are being created because wiki is so easy to edit, but it's so disorganized -- orphan articles, hidden articles with a single link to an article with a single link, and so on. Not many clear overviews of everything has been done on a subject. Metadata is the cataloger/computer scientist's solution to the problem, making searching easier for those that understand it, but not enough people understand it to do all the editing that's needed. I hope the implementation will be very easy to understand, so that people who are knowledgable in each subject can do their own markup. GUllman 18:58, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

Just a quick note to let you know that there is yet another librarian contributing to Wikipedia now. Steve Casburn 16:55, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Disneyland past attractions

I started working on List of past Disneyland attractions from memory but it's way too late and I've spent too much time and I'm going to bed. Elf | Talk 06:33, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Your Username at 200

I'm sorry I got your username wrong at Talk:200 (number). I just got confused about the L's. PrimeFan 22:22, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Categories

Where are all the librarians? Well, I'm one of them -- 30 years on the staff at Dallas Pub Lib. (I recently expanded the Library article, for that matter.) But I agree: There certainly ought to be more.

But I have a specific problem that I think maybe you could give me some guidance on, because of your posts on the categorization talk page, and because even an experienced reference librarian knows when to ask for help! I've been doing a bunch of Texas-related historical & biographical articles, and I have a bunch more coming up, and it finally occurred to me that there really ought to be a category called "Texans". At present, there's only a manual "List of Texans" under "Category:Texas".

I've been reading all through the how-to pages, and all the articles having to do with categories and categorization, and I've not found anything that tells me how to actually establish a new category. Is this an admin-only ability? Or am I just overlooking something? --Michael K. Smith 20:19, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Michael, by the time I read your message, I saw that you already found help for your glitches in creating categories at Wikipedia talk:Categorization. As you now know, anyone can create categories, and the instructions are hidden at Wikipedia:Categorization between when to create one and what to name it. One of us should reword it, use a more familiar example besides felis silvestris catus, and make it more prominent on that page. I don't think the new glitch you found (that you have to delete and re-add the category tag to articles that were created before the category) is even mentioned yet.

I haven't done much with categories since the bottom-up method and the many glitches discourage most people from contributing, which is what Wikipedia is all about. I'll help discuss classification theory, but I'll keep supporting the lists until they get the bugs out of the procedure, and then use them in creating categories. GUllman 19:38, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Hi I have just joined Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels and noticed you are part of the parent Books, also see you are a librarian and interested in Categories. I trained as a Librarian and dislike seeing things in a jumble. However the categories around fiction and novels and their genres appear to be in something of a middle. Do you have any thoughts or recommendations? Would you like to get envolved? Please get back to me. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)} 15:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Speaking of categories, what do you think of Category:Descendants_of_Richard_Warren and it's proposed deletion? As you are into both genealogy and a librarian, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts. -- Sholom 16:54, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but I think this would get out of hand in several ways: deciding which historical persons are prominent enough to have a category, and to receive a category tag; and an exponentiating number of category links on articles of royals, nobles and other well-connected families such as presidents (nearly all Europeans and Americans could receive a "Descendants of Charlemagne" tag). It's tempting to turn the hierarchy of categories into a genealogy tree like FamilySearch's Ancestral File, but in an encyclopedia, it is sufficient to include these lists, with the names linked, in the text of the article. GUllman 21:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

• Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
• Multi-Licensing Guide
• Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

New Mathematics Wikiportal

I noticed you've done some work on Mathematics articles. I wanted to point out to you the new Mathematics Wikiportal- more specifically, to the Mathematics Collaboration of the Week page. I'm looking for any math-related stubs or non-existant articles that you would like to see on Wikipedia. Additionally, I wondered if you'd be willing to help out on some of the Collaboration of the Week pages.

I encourage you to vote on the current Collaboration of the Week, because I'm very interested in which articles you think need to be written or added to, and because I understand that I cannot do the enormous amount of work required on some of the Math stubs alone. I'm asking for your help, and also your critiques on the way the portal is set up.

Librarians

I've just set up a project page for librarians interested in contributing to Wikipedia. I hope you'll drop by! --Helperzoom 06:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Please direct all comments to my user-talk page, the Math Wikiportal talk page, or the Math Collaboration of the Week talk page. Thanks a lot for your support! ral315 02:54, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

 

I heartily agree that Wikipedia needs more librarians keeping after things. Unfortunately, the nearest I come to being a librarian is that I come from a long line of them. (I'm 25 and don't even have a BA, let alone an MLS!)  — Anna Kucsma 19:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

SoCal WikiProject

Since you are in Southern California, you might be interested in the Southern California WikiProject (and its parent California WikiProject). Please take a look at the project's page and see if there is anything that you find interesting. If you have any comments or questions, please contact me. BlankVerse ∅ 02:13, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Jimbo Wales to Attend San Diego Meetup on October 18 2005

Hello, Jimbo Wales will be in San Diego to attend OOPSLA and has agreed to come by and visit with the San Diego wikipedians. If you are interested, you will find more info on my talk page. Johntex\^talk 00:54, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

"Unofficial" regions

Hi Gullman. A long long time ago you suggested renaming this list of "unofficial" regions on its talk page. I, too, think that sounds like a sensible initiative. But what should be the title of the article? =J //Big Adamsky 12:22, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I had already suggested Lists of regions by country, and I still think this is descriptive and succinct enough. Being called a 'region' implies there isn't another official word for these plots of land like 'state' or 'province'. You don't even have to say whether they are historical or traditional since some of them may have some other origin. GUllman 23:09, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I know, but "region" is also the name of first-level subdivisions within some states, just like "state", "republic", "province", "district", "emirate" etc. And so it might be better to disambiguate with an adjective in the title. //Big Adamsky 00:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, then why can't the official and unofficial regions be listed in the region article? -- it already includes the list of unofficial regions under its "Geographical" subheading, and duplicates most of the list under its "Traditional" and "Geographical subheadings. Just copy the rest of the list there and get rid of the Lists of unofficial regions. Alternatively, the first few paragraphs of Region can be a disambiguation page, and create List of regions for the rest of the article. GUllman 01:50, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Family History

I am proposing a Family History Wiki. I hope you are interested enough to add your name in support at Wikimedia. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 07:55, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

As much as I like genealogy, I studied your proposal and all the relevant links and decided the project just isn't appropriate for a wiki, let alone Wikimedia. Case in point: lots of relatives have seen my genealogy web site (and a few actually say thank you), but very few are coordinating research on the same persons, which is the benefit of using a wiki. I might think this project had merit if the articles were about people who had their "15 minutes of fame" and were known outside their community; as a minimum, we could link unrelated people who were in the same club, officers in the same organization, or worked for the same company. GUllman 01:57, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

"Nothing is as interesting as hearing stories about your ancestors, and nothing is as boring as listening to someone else talk about their ancestors."

Non-fiction Template

Since you are part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Books I thought you might know of a non-fiction template that I can use. Is there such a thing?

-Todd 19:03, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

We have not developed an official nonfiction template yet. Nonfiction books cover a much wider field than novels, so different aspects might apply for discussion (not all could be called "culturally important", for example), so they're still as freeform as most Wikipedia articles. The infobox you added on The Guns of August appears to follow the example of the Book infobox. It looks good! GUllman 21:34, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi there! We've not interacted, as far as I know, but I've seen your edits on various LIS pages and thought I'd introduce myself... I'm also a librarian, up in Northern California. I'm involved with doing outreach to librarians and with wikimania this summer, which you might be interested in; we're trying to get a lot of librarian involvement. Anyway - just thought I'd say hi :) Brassratgirl 03:30, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for saying hi, and I have noticed your contributions to LIS pages and their talk pages as well. I'm not able to travel to wikimania at this time, but I'm glad to see librarians will be represented, and I hope that any other librarians reading this will consider it. We'll each do our part to increase our visibility and contribute our expertise to Wikipedia as we're able. GUllman 18:21, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

FamilySearch

As you have contributed to a related article, you might want to know about the AfD for FamilySearch. -- 63.224.136.62 04:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Electronic article RfD

An article I have contributed to relating to libraries, Electronic article, has been listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Electronic article. DGG 02:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

On the RfD Talk page, I proposed keeping this useful article, but moving it to Electronic journal. GUllman 21:50, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd have no objections to merging them.DGG 01:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

It having been decidedto keep them both, I have started trying to make them each distinctive. DGG 04:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

databases

The article, List of bibliographic databases, has just been turned into a redirect, and simultaneously the Academic databases and search engines article has had all the links changed--all of this in the last few days- at the rate of several hundred edits a day. See discussion on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Academic_databases_and_search_engines#linksDGG 04:43, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Request for help

Hi GUllman,

I saw your name on the list at the books project page and I'm hoping you could help. I made a number of contributions to the Against the Day article which I think would be extremely useful to readers of that difficult novel who come here looking for more information on it. I may be wrong or I may be right in the types of additions I've made, but I've gotten into a dispute with another editor who has some support from others and wants to delete some portions of the article. I strongly feel that the critics aren't even thinking about the points in dispute from the perspective of book readers. If you have the time and the inclination, I hope you'll visit the discussion and put your two cents in. Essentially it's about whether to retain a list of years and a list of abstruse words in the article. Whether you agree with me or disagree, I'd appreciate the opinion of someone with a clear interest in books. Thanks for taking the time to read this far. Noroton 21:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

America's Got Talent format changes

Hi! Could you please comment on my proposed changes to the format of America's Got Talent season articles at Talk:America's Got Talent (season 2)? Thanks. TLK^'in 14:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

List of books by title

Hi. I'm very grateful to you for moving all the Lists of books by title to project space before they were irrevocably gone. WP:NOT is a killer (as could be seen when the List of people by name was deleted), and it can be used indiscriminately by people who never seem to have realised how valuable an index can be. Thanks again, and keep up the good work. <KF> 08:53, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

I was very lucky that I saw the AfD in time, and had the time to do the work. Four years of work by countless volunteers ... deleted just two days after it was proposed! GUllman 21:32, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Redirect of Sideswipe (martial arts)

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Yoga poll

Hi! There's some discussion on whether using "asana", "yogasana" or "yoga asana" as the article title. If you are acquainted with the subject, you are invited to drop your opinion at Talk:Yogasana#Opinion Poll on this article's name. Davin7 10:00, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Lists and the "contents" pages

There's a reply to your post at Wikipedia talk:Contents:

• These lists belong in Wikipedia namespace. Many people walk into a library or bookstore and look around thinking, "Aha, so this is how all of knowledge is organized," but they are wrong. Many equally valid systems of organizing knowledge have been devised. The chosen scope of each Wikipedia article, the inclusion or exclusion of articles in a category or list (unless it is an indisputable fact), and the boundaries of academic disciplines are the opinions of the compilers. Categories of knowledge that were developed by an authority in the outside world such as Dewey, LC or Roget could stay in the article namespace, but the unique organization schemes that were grown inhouse by Wikipedia's editors are original research. They are indeed useful as overviews of this encyclopedia's strengths and lacks, but they should not be candidates for featured lists. GUllman 23:51, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Since the 3 pages I listed above are also the names of their respective sets, it isn't clear to what lists you are referring to, just the 3 pages, or the entire sets? Note that the scope of the page "Lists of topics" is all lists on Wikipedia. To move them all to the Wikipedia namespace would require a larger venue of discussion. With respect to your last point, whether or not a list is eligible for featured list status depends upon if it can meet the requirements set by that department. "Basic geography" returns over 37,000 hits on Google, so it appears likely that the List of basic geography topics can be sourced as per the requirements of WP:FLC. The Transhumanist 17:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

There are now also other reasons posted in the discussion that you may want to take into consideration. Please respond at Wikipedia talk:Contents. The Transhumanist 23:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Lists of basic topics WikiProject status report

I've just created List of basic human anatomy topics. It's not complete. Please look it over to see if there is anything you can fill in.

Also, we've got a pretty long wish list of basic topics lists that don't yet exist. Please adopt a topic from the list and create a basic list for it -- the {{BLT}} template is for creating basic topic lists, and is used like this: {{subst:BLT|topic|Topic}} (where "topic" is the name of the topic being covered). Instructions are included on the template. Once the page is created with the heading skeleton, fill it in to the best of your ability. Post a message on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lists of basic topics to let the whole team know what you are working on.

The Transhumanist 01:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Question about the Westchester neighborhood

In Westchester, is it very affluent in the area, or is it middle class? If either, should I add more info on the article? Agtax 21:00, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

According to the 2000 Census income table for zip code 90045, about 50% of the families earn between $60,000 and $150,000 a year, so I'd say the majority might be called upper-middle class. However, like nearly all communities, each range of income has a percentage, so you might find a way to copy the table in the link I provided. GUllman (talk) 06:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Circus has had assessment added

See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Circus#Version_1.0_assessments Paul foord (talk) 06:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Germany Invitation

Hello, GUllman! I'd like to call your attention to the WikiProject Germany and the German-speaking Wikipedians' notice board. I hope their links, sub-projects and discussions are interesting and even helpful to you. If not, I hope that new ones will be. Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany | finger on pulse Wikipedia:German-speaking Wikipedians' notice board | finger on pulse

--Zeitgespenst (talk) 12:11, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Library, Archives, and Web 2.0 Research Guide Template

Consider giving your opinion on the research guide template.Shannon bohle (talk) 06:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Collaboration

I'm pushing a collaboration to complete the list of basic space exploration topics.

Should be fun. Drop on by.  ;)

Also, see my post to User talk:Quiddity#Basic topic lists if you want to delve in deeper.

The Transhumanist 09:19, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Back to the Future timeline

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One link at a time

Hi.

Since you are a member of the Lists of basic topics WikiProject, I have a couple requests for you...

As you browse/edit Wikipedia, please be on the lookout for links you can add to the lists of basic topics (and each time you find one, add it to the appropriate list). The ones that need the most work are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists of basic topics.

You can also help build the set by adding or completing lists. Set a personal quota (build or complete one list per month, or per week, or per whatever time period you think you can handle), and keep up with your quota. These lists take from 3 hours to 8 hours each to complete, even if you know nothing about the subject to begin with. (The basic topics of a subject are pretty easy to identify). Even partial lists are useful for study and navigation, so don't be shy. Others can pick up where you've left off.

Links add up, so even if you add one link at a time, here and there, it will help. Please acquire the habit. The more people we get involved with this, the sooner the project will reach its intended scope.

The Transhumanist 06:08, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence

Hello. I'm contacting you and other members of WikiProject Books in order to find if you are interested in collaborating to expand and improve The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence article to make it worthy of becoming a featured article candidate, in light of the fact that it is the first book the U.S. government ever went to court to censor before its publication. --Loremaster (talk) 21:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

One of your pet projects is taking off...

Hi GUllman,

We could sure use your help over at the WikiProject Lists of basic topics...

We're in the process of more than doubling the size of the set, and have created a page for every country of the world! (They are listed on the WikiProject page). They're not complete, and most of them aren't even in the main namespace yet, but...

A team of editors has been working on them, and the pages have come a long way. Check 'em out, man.

The reason I'm contacting you is because we're about to run a competition, called "Around the World", in which participants will compete by completing specific data items across all of these country lists. For example, one task for one participant would be adding the population figure for each country. Each participant will be using advanced tools like AWB and Linky, so this should be very interesting.

The awards images for the contest are almost done, and the pages themselves need a couple sections completed before they can be moved to the article namespace and the competition can begin.

The competition will likely attract many editors to this WikiProject. We could sure use your help getting these pages ready to help make this happen...

Tracking down the administrative divisions types for each country

The first task is on the "Administrative divisions of" sections.

In each of these sections, there's an initial hierarchical list of the division types in that country, followed by subheadings for each of the types. Unfortunately, the types listed are those from the template I used to create these pages, and they aren't accurate for many countries.

The defaults that I used were:

• Provinces of x
  • Districts of x
    • Municipalities of x

(Where "x" is the name of each country).

For each country, the links to the names of the administrative divisions for that country need to be checked and corrected, adding more links if there are more than 3 division types. Those that are subdivisions of another type are indented under the parent type. In most cases, you would leave municipalities in place, because that's a generic name for "city". We'll blue-link those later. (Blue-linking is creating a redirect so that a link turns blue - that way, the link remains standardized on all the pages in the set).

Also we need to change the subheadings in the same section to match the initial list, including the "main article" links presented just below each of those subheadings.

To find out what the administrative divisions are for a country so you can add them, try looking on the government of x or politics of x pages for that country, and on the country's main article as well.

Adding the administrative divisions to their respective subsections

For each country, we need to find the list of administrative division for each type, and add them under that type's subheading.

For example, copy and paste the provinces listed at Provinces of Angola to the "Provinces of Angola" subheading on that country's basic topics list page.

See the countries listed at Lists of basic topics for examples of how this has been done for those. If there's a map showing the administrative divisions, grab it too! Maps are great.

Generally do not add towns and cities to the municipalities section, as there are usually way too many of them (and will unnecessarily bloat the page). Instead, provide links to the various pages (Cities of x, [[[Towns of x]], Villages of x, etc.

Completing the "Government of x" section

This section also has temporary data, and needs to be corrected/completed.

The titles of the head of state and head of government of each country need to be corrected, and the specific office holders added.

The branches of government subheadings need to be corrected/filled in.

Etc.

The above tasks are fun, because it's interesting to see how other countries operate. I've completed about 25 of the country pages so far, and I've been intrigued and even amazed at some of the approaches different countries follow. The U.S. is definitely behind in many respects.

Please help out as much as you can, and help us get Around the World started!

Sincerely,

The Transhumanist 18:11, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Transhumanist, I have just discovered the rotating barnstar that can barely be seen in the upper left corner of my user page was contributed by you on Feb. 6, 2008. I thank you for the thought, but could you please either move it, remove it or change to a normal barnstar award -- or is its position deliberately symbolic in some way? GUllman (talk) 18:19, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

UCLA userbox

Hi, I have never seen a swirling barnstar Wikipedia globe logo before I came to your talk page. I updated Template:User BRUIN ALUM today. It's a little fancier than the Template:User ucla one, so I thought I'd share it! Newportm (talk) 01:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the userbox. Go Bruins! GUllman (talk) 17:52, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Concerning the Wikipedia:WikiProject Lists of basic topics

(the RfDs below have already run their course)

RfD nomination of Navy of Sudan

I have nominated Navy of Sudan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Navy of Belarus

I have nominated Navy of Belarus (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 16:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Navy redirects

We've been "bluelinking" the Navy of x links in the basic topic country lists, by creating redirects for them, even for the countries that have no navy.

There's been a little controversy over the navy redirects for the landlocked countries (many of which have no navy), as you can see above. But it's all been worked out. Each country with no navy gets a redirect to wherever it is reported that it has no navy, or failing that, to its "military of" article.

The country lists are coming along slowing but surely. It shouldn't take too much longer before they will be complete enough to move into article space (!), but I can still use all the help I can get. (hint hint).

The Transhumanist 20:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

We could sure use your help in bluelinking the links in these lists (each link appears in one of the various country basic topic lists):

• User:ChiragPatnaik/Navies
  
• User:ChiragPatnaik/Armies
  
• User:ChiragPatnaik/Air Forces

To bluelink them, create a redirect to wherever the information is covered. If there is no entity, redirect to where that is (or should be) covered.

If you have any questions, please contact me. The Transhumanist 20:58, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

P.S.: I hardly ever check back on messages I leave on users' talk pages - Wikipedia's message alert feature only works when messages are left on the recipient's talk page. It was sheer luck I spotted your request above.  ;) The Transhumanist 21:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Loves Art

First off, I apologize for the spam. You are receiving this message because you have indicated that you are in Southern California or interested in Southern California topics (either via category or WikiProject).

I would like to invite you to the Los Angeles edition of Wikipedia:Wikipedia Loves Art, a photography scavenger hunt to be held at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA) on Saturday, February 28, 2009, from 1:00 to 7:00 PM. All photos are intended for use in Wikipedia articles or on Wikimedia Commons. There will be a prize available for the person who gets the most photos on the list.

If you don't like art, why not come just to meet your fellow Wikipedians. Apparently, we haven't had a meetup in this area since June 2006!

If you are interested in attending, please add your name to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Loves Art#Los Angeles County Museum of Art. Please make a note if you are traveling to the area (train or plane) and need transportation, which can probably be arranged via carpool, but we need time to coordinate. Lodging is as of right now out of scope, but we could discuss that if enough people are interested.

Thank you and I hope to see you there! howcheng {chat} 23:56, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Alphabetization and collation

I am inviting you to comment, in your capacity as a librarian, at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Alphabetization and collation. -- Wavelength (talk) 21:29, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Outline of Knowledge / Geography WikiProject Collaboration: Country outlines

As you probably remember, last spring we started work on the "Geography and places" branch of Wikipedia's Outline of knowledge. It is in the form of a set of outline pages including one for every present-day nation or state in the world. That's 247 pages! This has been a huge undertaking, involving dozens of editors using advanced wiki-tools.

These pages have come a long way, and it won't be long before the whole set is complete enough to be moved to article space into the encyclopedia for the benefit of all. But there's still a lot of work left, and we could use all the help we can get!

While some editors prefer to work on one country at a time, most of our team members take on a particular entry and complete it across all the pages. This has come to be our standard type of task. To facilitate this process, we apply tools such as AutoWikiBrowser, Linky, and WikEd, all of which can be used to process a large number of pages in various (direct or indirect) ways.

In case you are interested in what we've been up to, here's a progress report:

Lately, development has been slow but continuous:

On our recruiting initiative, Penubag has done a fantastic job on the images for the awards we'll be using for our project's collaborations and contests. We now have 3 awards: a medal, a trophy, and a race ribbon. They all look tight. The trophy needs a small adjustment, but other than that, all 3 award images are complete and ready to use to create awards with.

Spartaz has warned us of (threatened to take) G4 (speedy delete) action if we run a competition that resembles the previously deleted Awards Center page. So whatever we do, any contests we run must differ substantially from the methods used there.

One type of competition I've been exploring is "edit racing". I'm in the process of working the bugs out of this concept - the first race didn't work as expected - you see, because we only had an award for first place, so the opponent didn't think it worthwhile to continue once it was clear who the winner would be. And since editors are in different time zones and usually need to start the race at different times, we need to base winning on personal start times - he who completes his assigned edits in the least time (rather than first), wins. And last but not least is quality control. What good is racing if the participants' edits are ripe with errors? So I'll be exploring possibilities such as using a referee (assigned to oversee a particular race), having participants watching each other for errors to knock them back, etc. I'm not sure yet.

Rich Farmbrough has been applying his bot expertise to filling in blanks in the country outlines (the population and area entries). I'm amazed at the number of edits he pumps out each day on a myriad of projects - ours makes up but a small time slice of his activity, and yet he has saved us many hours of manual work. Perhaps we should look into how he gets so much done.  :)

Zlerman has chosen to work on specific outlines, and has taken on Azerbaijan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. He also has been keen on noticing and reporting design issues pertaining to the whole set of country outlines. Keep up the good work!

Highfields is in charge of capitals, adding them to all the outlines. He is also our first race winner. Check out the award on his user pages.

In case you didn't know, this project has expanded to include work on any and all sets of pages represented on the country outlines. Once the set of country outlines go live (in article space), traffic will likely increase for all the links included on them. The quality and usefulness of those pages will reflect heavily on the country outlines. The outlines, which are essentially lists of links, are only as good as the links they present, and therefore we've branched out to solve the biggest problems with those as well. So far, we've taken on:

• The creation of disambiguation pages for country adjectivals ("German", "French", "Taiwanese", etc.) We're about half done with these.
• Wikifying the CIA World Factbook statistics on the "demographics of" country pages. We've been renaming those sections to provide a key string that AWB can use for targetting (for skipping and filtering). Once that's done, we'll be able to break the clean-up down into simple AWB search/replace tasks, because we'll be able to target just those pages that include the CIA stuff.
• We've also been renaming the "Cuisine of" articles to their adjectival forms ("Chinese cuisine", "Italian cuisine", etc.), for consistency and because the adjective-based terms are generally the most commonly-used names for those cuisine types.

Blackadam2 and Thehelpfulone have been helping out with the "demographics of" pages mentioned above.

And we have a couple speed addicts (addicted to wiki-velocity, not drugs)...

Both Robert Skyhawk and Thehelpfulone prefer (and excel at) simple AWB search/replaces. Robert hasn't actually joined our team yet, but he has been helping out quite a bit from the sidelines (via the WP:AWB/Tasks page. Unfortunately, there has recently been a non-AWB chore that has been holding things up on the AWB front - an edit to all the headings which had to be reverted before too many new edits were made, because any new edits would make the reversion more difficult. The headings have been restored, so now the way is clear for AWB operations, and there are many search/replace tasks in the queue. AWB assignments have started again!

There's a similar bottleneck on the "Demographics of" pages (the "keying" mentioned above), but that's almost cleared too.  :)

With my internet access somewhat crippled as of late, I've been finding it difficult to keep up with you guys. However, I expect to be accessing a Linky-capable workstation on a faster server (I'm on it right now, as you can probably tell from my contributions list for the past couple of days), and so I should really pick up speed. Feels goooooood.  :)

Recruiting has been a bit slow (but steady), due in part to my crippled access, and because we've been waiting for the images for the awards to be completed. I expect the team to grow more rapidly as the bottlenecks are removed.

Well that's what's been happenin', and here's what's in the pipeline...

We've got a long list of entries that need to be completed across all the outlines and related page sets. If you would like to dive in with advanced wiki-tools to process this whole set of pages on one or more tasks, drop me a note!

As for me, I'm about to begin work on a set of lists that corresponds to all the standard links on the country outlines, and these will be presented on the Topic outline of countries which will be organized exactly like the country outlines. Aside from being an extremely useful navigation aid, it will allow editors to easily see the state of country coverage on Wikipedia - each list will be one link-set, and each list can be used with our wiki-tools to process the pages listed. I'll provide you with a link once I get up to speed on this.

In the meantime, keep in touch!

Cheers,

The Transhumanist 00:46, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Country outlines project update - 2009/03/08

Remember "Around the World"?

Well, we've been around the World, and around again (virtually speaking, on Wikipedia), on this project.

Things have been slowing down again, so it's time for a big push...

We've gone live

This project needed a shot in the arm. Also, its draft pages have been littering Wikipedia's categories for months. The time seemed right to move all the country outline drafts to article space.

WHAT???

Well, the drafts had been sitting in Wikipedia space for a year.

WHAT???

Development has been moving at a snail's pace and we could use the help of the Wikipedia community at large (who are more likely to find these if they are in article space).

WHAT???

Yes, we've gone live.  :)

This puts pressure on us to get the blatantly incomplete elements of these outlines done. The only glaring problem is the government branches sections. These need to be corrected ASAP.

I've mentioned THE GOVERNMENT BRANCHES SECTIONS many times to many people over the past year, but the problem just doesn't seem to have been taken seriously. So let me put it another way:

HELP!!! I need your help on this now. Almost all the countries have a government with an executive branch, a legislative branch, and a judicial branch. The links for these branches need to be completed for each country outline:

Here's a convenient list you can use WP:LINKY on to access and edit these quickly. Please copy the list's link to the top of your talk page so that you can access it easily.

If you spot any standardization in links, and ways we can automate parts of this process, or for groups of countries that have links in common, please let me know!

Administrative support for outlines

There has been growing pressure on me to write up the administrative pages for outlines - their instructions, guidelines, etc. Therefore, I'm now in the process of composing these. Fortunately, it is mostly a matter of gathering material from messages I've written to you guys over the past year. Still, this is taking up most of my time, and I will be buried in these for the foreseeable future.

Traffic control

The next big task after the government branches sections are cleaned up is link support for the outlines.

There's quite a list of links and notices that need to be put in place around Wikipedia, providing access to them to readers, and alerting editors to the need to develop and maintain these pages. This will keep our bot people very busy (and happy).

But the most important thing right now is to get the government branches sections completed. So please, put your bots aside, roll up your shirt sleeves, and start typing.

Thank you.

The Transhumanist 03:35, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Geography WikiProject update - 03/15/2009

The award images are complete!

After months of toil and attention to detail, Penubag has completed the set of images for this WikiProject's awards!

There are five race ribbons:

There's an engraved medallion:

And by far the hardest to create, a golden trophy:

If you have any ideas about awards these images can be placed upon, and how to award them (to show appreciation and to attract participants), please let me know.

And be sure to pop by Penubag's talk page to let him know what you think of his graphics artistry.

The Transhumanist 21:10, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Update on the Outline of knowledge WikiProject & Geography WikiProject (Country outlines workgroup) - 04/16/2009

Momentum in the development of the outlines is continuing to build, even though we haven't added any new outlines lately. Plenty of work is being done on the outlines we already have.

Keep up the good work everyone!

Inspiration!

Kudos go to Buaidh, who has dived head first into outline development, continuing improvement of the country outlines, and doing so vigorously. Take a look at his contribs. He has taken the initiative and has been expanding those outlines' design and coverage. Be sure to let him know what you think of his work!

Coming soon: the Super Huge Expansion (it will be really really big)

Excitement (mine at least) is building as we approach the Super Huge Expansion, during which notices will be placed on thousands of subject talk pages and their corresponding WikiProjects (see below concerning which ones). Though not all on the same day! - this will take place over a period of weeks or months, because it's best not to open the flood gates all at once.

The existing outlines should serve as strong examples for editors who wish to develop new outlines, and so we need to complete them as much as we can before we start to take this to the next level (in about 3 months). The rewrite of the outline article (the draft, which explains outlines in detail), and the guideline on outlines and outline development, also need to be completed before the transcendence begins. These will help guide the decisions and actions of editors, and reduce confusion.

Projected outline, at the OOK WikiProject page

What's next? Where is the Outline of knowledge headed?

Well, it will grow, to encompass all of human knowledge.

But, is there a plan?

YES!!!

Currently under construction on the Outline of knowledge WikiProject page is a version of the outline that will display links to all the outline pages currently in the encyclopedia proper, links to all outline drafts, and redlinks to all planned outline drafts.

You can help. Please place links to the remaining drafts in there (with complete pagenames so we can easily tell they are drafts). Once all the draft pages are placed, please look over the overall outline for gaps in coverage, and add missing subjects. I expect there are thousands of missing subjects extensive enough to benefit from being outlined. New subjects should be included as red draft links. Thank you.

But it's not just an editing task list...

During the upcoming "Super Huge Expansion" (mentioned above), the article talk page and WikiProject for each of the subjects listed on the projected outline will receive a notice requesting the creation and development of the outline page for that subject. Each notice will also explain how a subject's outline will integrate into the Outline of knowledge and into Wikipedia's navigation system as a whole.

See Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge#Projected outline.

Topic lists

The nice thing about a reverse outline is that it turns up problems that exist in the publication being outlined, which provides opportunities to fix them. Since we get very little or no opposition to fixing problems even on sets of hundreds of pages, we've been plowing through them.

One of the biggest problems in Wikipedia that our work on the Outline of knowledge has uncovered so far is with the set of topics lists. Their titles, in the forms "List of x topics" and "List of x-related topics" are ambiguous, and they are not the most common terms for describing their content. See WP:COMMONNAME. To make matters worse, the set is divided between 2 competing types/sets of pages: alphabetical indexes, and outlines.

In an effort to sort out this mess, the indexes are being renamed, and the outlines are being reformatted and moved, or merged, into the Outline of knowledge.

So far, almost 300 topic lists have been renamed to indexes. Nobody has objected to the names chosen, but one editor has expressed reservation on the approach - he was concerned it would cause confusion by having 2 title standards in place at the same time for these. Though he himself was not confused, nor did he object to the titles. And nobody else has expressed confusion or dissatisfaction with the new titles either. It has been over 2 weeks since the renaming has begun, and since no confusion seems to have been caused, and since there is no opposition to the new names, I plan to continue with the renaming.

Also, one topic list has been merged into its corresponding outline so far: List of transport topics was merged into Outline of transport. It turned out very good. List of cell biology topics is currently being merged into Outline of cell biology (see the link dump in hidden comments at the end of the outline).

I'm not sure how many lists have "topics" in their titles, but Google turned up 788, and these appear to include the ones that have already been renamed to indexes. Subtracting those renamed so far, there are about 500 more to go.

Watching tips

I thought you might want to compare notes on the methods we use to watch over the outlines. Here's how I keep an eye on things...

My watchlist had so many thousands of articles in it that I finally just deleted them all. Now I have it set so that I have to manually add pages to be watched, and I use it only to watch trouble spots and collaborations I'm participating in.

Because I like to watch specific sets of pages at a time, I use "Related changes" on list pages. That way the results are not watered down with edits from pages I'm not immediately concerned with.

I always use WP:POP and Related changes together. With POP installed, you go to a link list, like User:Buaidh/Country outlines of the Americas, then click on "Related changes" in the toolbox menu, and then hover the mouse cursor over the diff and hist links so you can look at those without clicking on them.

It's pretty fast.

The technique turns Wikipedia's list system into a crystal ball.

Update Scanner

Penubag recommends Update Scanner, which is a Firefox add-on that periodically scans pages and pings you when a change is detected. You can even set its level of sensitivity for each scanned page (e.g., "ignore changes of 100 words or less").

I'd use it, but I don't have a computer.  :(

See also WP:OTS for more power tools and techniques, and User:Penubag/optimum toolsets for some more nice addons, that do a variety of things.

I'm always looking for new power tools and power skills, so if you know of any, please share (let me know)!

The Transhumanist 04:49, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Do not read this one - The Hunt - Outline of knowledge WikiProject - 04/17/2009

Here's a trivia question for you...

While surveying libraries, their outline-related resources, and our coverage of them, I came across something funny...

What subclass is the Bible in the Library of Congress Classification?

Do you think they'd like this one at WP:DYK?

(Nope. They didn't.)     :)

Libraries

For months, I've been sitting at a terminal in one of the largest libraries in the country, and I haven't even looked around at the available resources.

Until a few days ago.

I'm overwhelmed.

When compared to libraries, Wikipedia is small. (See Digest of Education Statistics 2008, Chapter 7:Libraries and Educational Technology Libraries, and turn to page 617).

But is that a fair comparison?

Yes.

Why?

Because we have growth potential.  :)

And we cover everything, including libraries!

Guess what else I found?

Hunting for outlines

I began to study libraries and librarians, since they are experts in organizing knowledge. And of course I turned to Wikipedia to see what we had on the things I came across...

And while doing so I kept running into outlines on Wikipedia that are not (yet) part of the Outline of knowledge.

When I come across non-OOK outlines, generally I rename them, and reformat them to our standard outline format. But there is the occasional exception.

Here are some outlines I just added:

1. List of energy topics --> Outline of energy (it converted great)
2. List of Dewey Decimal classes --> Outline of Dewey Decimal classes (no conversion)
3. Library of Congress Classification --> ??? (no rename, no conversion)

The last 2 are outlines by their very nature, and so our standard outline subheadings didn't seem to fit. So I left them as is.

I renamed the first 2, but the last one is the name of the outline, that is, the topic itself is an outline, and that outline is presented as the article's content, so I left the name as is. For now. This needs more thought.

Of course, that's not all. Concerning those last 2 outlines above...

Alternate outlines of knowledge

...not only are they outlines, but they are outlines of knowledge! Well, the top few levels, at least.

Uh, so?

What happens if we linkify them?  :)

That is, what happens if we linkify their classifications to Wikipedia's outlines?  :)   :)   :)

They become alternate top ends to the OOK

Yep.

What can you find?

I challenge you to find some "hidden" outlines.

I dare you to take a look around Wikipedia for hidden outlines (that is, outlines not yet hooked into the OOK), and add your kills to WP:WPOOK#The hunt for hidden outlines.

My trophies are already there.

May the hunt begin!

The Transhumanist 20:44, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Hill Valley (Back to the Future)

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Tirana Circus

Could you please help expanding the article of Tirana Circus? --Vinie007 13:42, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Contortion

Hi there. Where did you get the Myths Section for this article? Thanks. -Nova —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.183.170.12 (talk) 04:28, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

They're not from any one source, since I've never seen a comprehensive and unbiased article about contortion, let alone a "list of myths". I have seen or read each myth used as showman's hype, however, and I could cite where I have seen it, but I admit this would be original research. Instead, let me claim that itemizing a list of popular myths is just the teaching/literary method I chose to dispell popular misinformation before giving the scientific research that can be cited. Since the goal of an encylopedia article is to teach, I just thought this style would be more effective in helping people find the answer to their question than paragraphs of facts one after another. GUllman (talk) 20:24, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Turning Ten

On Saturday January 15, 2011, Wikipedia will turn 10 years and people all over the globe will be celebrating Wikipedia on that day. No event is currently planned for Orange County Wikipedians, so I am leaving a message with some of the currently involved editors listed in "Wikipedians in Orange County, California" & "Wikipedians in Southern California" to see if we might want to meet on that day, lunch, dinner, group photo or other ideas welcomed? I will start a "Turning Ten" discussion thread on my Talk page to see if any interest can be planned for and determined. I am located in Old Towne Orange off the circle.Tinkermen (talk) 17:17, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Saturday 25th

Do you know about this Meetup this coming Saturday in LA? Wikipedia:Meetup/LA/4 Hope you can attend. Tinkermen (talk) 15:25, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

I know about it, but probably can't attend, thanks. GUllman (talk) 00:55, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

LA-area Meetup: Saturday, November 19

	National Archives Backstage Pass at the Reagan Library
	You are invited to the first-ever backstage pass tour and Wikipedia editathon hosted by the Reagan Presidential Library, in Simi Valley, on Saturday, November 19th! The Reagan Library, home to a real Air Force One and other treasures from American history, will take Wikipedians on a special tour of the grounds and archives, followed by an editathon; free catered lunch provided. Please sign up! Dominic·t 21:11, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
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Invitation

	Great American Wikinic at Pan-Pacific Park
	You are invited to the second Great American Wikinic taking place in Pan-Pacific Park, in Los Angeles, on Saturday, June 23, 2012! Last year's was a blast (see the LA Weekly blog post on it) and we hope we can do better this year. We would love to have you there! —howcheng {chat} 03:32, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
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You're invited! FemTech Edit-a-Thon at Claremont Graduate University

October 26 - FemTech Edit-a-Thon & Roundtable - You are invited!

Everyone is invited to the first FemTech Edit-a-Thon & Roundtable at Claremont Graduate University on October 26 from 3-6 pm. The event will open with a roundtable discussion about feminism and anti-racist technology projects, followed by an edit-a-thon focusing on feminists & women in science. Experienced Wikipedians will be on hand to support new editors. We hope you can join us! Sign up here - see you there! 00:56, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

2013 Wikinic

	Great American Wikinic at Pan-Pacific Park
	You are invited to the third Great American Wikinic taking place in Pan-Pacific Park, in Los Angeles, on Saturday, June 22, 2013! We would love to see you there! —howcheng {chat} 01:09, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
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Love history & culture? Get involved in WikiProject World Digital Library!

World Digital Library Wikipedia Partnership - We need you!

Hi GUllman! I'm the Wikipedian In Residence at the World Digital Library, a project of the Library of Congress and UNESCO. I'm recruiting Wikipedians who are passionate about history & culture to participate in improving Wikipedia using the WDL's vast free online resources. Participants can earn our awesome WDL barnstar and help to disseminate free knowledge from over 100 libraries in 7 different languages. Multilingual editing encouraged!!! But being multilingual is not a necessity to make this project a success. Please sign up to participate here. Thanks for editing Wikipedia and I look forward to working with you! SarahStierch (talk) 14:29, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Meetup

You are invited to "Come Edit Wikipedia!" at the West Hollywood Library on Saturday, July 27th, 2013. There will be coffee, cookies, and good times! -- Olegkagan (talk) — Message delivered by Hazard-Bot at 03:40, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Meetup

Help build the Wikipedia community in Southern California at "Come Edit Wikipedia!" presented by the West Hollywood Library on Saturday, August 31st, 2013 from 1-5pm. Drop in for some lively editing and conversation! Plus, it's a library, so there are plenty of sources. --Olegkagan (talk) — Message delivered by Hazard-Bot at 02:26, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

March 9 edit-a-thon at MOCA in downtown LA

LA Meetup: March 9 edit-a-thon at MOCA

Dear fellow Wikipedian, You have been invited to a meetup and edit-a-thon at the Museum of Contemporary Art in downtown Los Angeles on Sunday, March 9, 2014 from 11 am to 6 pm! This event is in collaboration with MOCA and the arts collective East of Borneo and aims to improve coverage of LA art since the 1980s. (Even if contemporary art isn't your thing, you're welcome to join too!) Please RSVP here if you're interested. I hope to see you there! User:Calliopejen1 (talk) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

May 10 Asian Pacific American edit-a-thon in LA

LA Meetup: May 10 Asian Pacific American edit-a-thon

Dear fellow Wikipedian, You have been invited to a meetup and edit-a-thon at the Junipero Serra Branch of the LA Public Library (4607 S. Main St., 90037) on Saturday, May 10, 2014 from 10 am to 4 pm! This event is sponsored by the Smithsonian Asian Pacific American Center and the Asian Pacific American Librarians Association and aims to improve coverage of Asian Pacific American topics, particularly as they relate to southern California. Please RSVP here if you're interested. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:11, 30 April 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

LA edit-a-thons on May 23 and 31

LA meetups: Adrianne Wadewitz memorial edit-a-thons on May 23 and May 31

Dear fellow Wikipedian, There are two LA edit-a-thons in memory of Adrianne Wadewitz, a prolific Wikipedia editor, in the coming weeks. Please join us May 23 at Occidental College and May 31 at the Institute of Cultural Inquiry to combat systemic bias and help further Adrianne's legacy. No experience needed! Please RSVP at the relevant page(s) if you plan to attend. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:28, 14 May 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. events on June 21 and July 6

Upcoming L.A. events: Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon (Saturday, June 21, 12-5pm) and Wiknic (Sunday, July 6, ~9:30am-4pm)

File:356 S Mission.jpg Gallery at 356 S. Mission Rd. Get hungry for the Wiknic! Dear fellow Wikipedian, The L.A. Wikipedia community has two exciting events coming up in the next few weeks: an edit-a-thon sponsored by the online magazine East of Borneo, and the fourth annual Los Angeles Wiknic! The East of Borneo event is an edit-a-thon that aims to build a better history of art in Southern California. This next chapter of their Unforgetting L.A. series will take place on Saturday, June 21, 2014 from 12pm to 5pm at 356 S. Mission Rd. (map). Beginners welcome! Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. For more info, see eastofborneo.org/unforgetting. The Wiknic is a part of the nationwide Great American Wiknic. We'll be grilling, getting to know each other better, and building the L.A. Wikipedia community! The event is tentatively planned for Pan-Pacific Park (map) and will be held on Sunday, July 6, 2014 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible! I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:59, 11 June 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon on September 6

Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon: Saturday, September 6 from 11am to 4pm

Dear fellow Wikipedian, You are invited to meet up with online magazine East of Borneo for an edit-a-thon to build a better history of art in Southern California. This next event in their Unforgetting L.A. series will take place on Saturday, September 6, 2014 from 11am - 4pm at the Armory Center for the Arts in Pasadena (map). Beginners welcome! Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. For more info, see eastofborneo.org/unforgetting. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:39, 20 August 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. Meetup on September 21

The 20th Los Angeles meetup: Sunday, September 21 from 11am to 4pm

Dear fellow Wikipedian, Join us on Sunday, September 21, from 11am to 4pm at Kramer Studio in Mid-City (map) for a meetup and edit-a-thon! Get to know the Los Angeles Wikipedia community and do some editing (or learn to edit!) in a collaborative environment. Please RSVP and consider becoming a member of the SoCal task force to help us improve articles about everything in the region. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:00, 27 August 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. events on October 7 and 16

Upcoming L.A. events: Wik-Ed Women edit-a-thon (10/7, 6-10pm) and UCR edit-a-thon (10/16, 10am-4pm)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, The Southern California Wikipedia community has two exciting events coming up in the next few weeks: a Wik-Ed Women editing session downtown designed to combat systemic bias, and a Wikipedia Loves Libraries event at UC Riverside! Wik-Ed Women is a new monthly series of informal Wikipedia editing sessions for Los Angeles women-in-the-arts (though all are welcome) to contribute their expertise to Wikipedia, specifically expanding content about women artists. This second session will take place on Tuesday, October 7 from 6pm to 10pm at the Los Angeles Contemporary Archive downtown. Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. The UC Riverside Wikipedia Loves Libraries event is an edit-a-thon targeting articles related to UC Riverside, SoCal, and beyond. Join students and faculty learning how to edit! This event will take place on Thursday, October 16 from 10am to 4pm at UCR's Tomás Rivera Library. Again, RSVPs are requested here. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:47, 29 September 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

SoCal edit-a-thons on October 21 and 25

Upcoming SoCal edit-a-thons: UC Riverside (10/21, 10am-3pm) and Unforgetting L.A. (10/25, 9am-5pm)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, The Southern California Wikipedia community has two more events scheduled for the month of October: a water-related edit-a-thon at UC Riverside, and an Unforgetting L.A. event at the Los Angeles Archives Bazaar in conjunction with L.A. as Subject! As part of Wikipedia Loves Libraries and to celebrate Open Access Week, UC Riverside is participating alongside other Western Waters Digital Library members in an edit-a-thon focusing on water issues. Join students and faculty learning how to edit! This event will take place on Tuesday, October 21 from 10am to 3pm at UCR's Orbach Science Library (map). RSVPs are requested here. The Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon and training workshop will take place at the 9th annual Los Angeles Archives Bazaar, and is hosted by online magazine East of Borneo in partnership with L.A. as Subject. Join us on Saturday, October 25 from 9am to 5pm at the USC Doheny Memorial Library (map). Beginners welcome! Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:06, 17 October 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. event on November 11, and a new Facebook group

Wik-Ed Women editing session (11/11, 6-10pm), and join our new Facebook group!

Dear fellow Wikipedian, The LA Wikipedia community has a new Facebook group! Become a member to keep up to date with all of our upcoming events and to connect with local Wikipedians! In addition, we have one upcoming event: the third Wik-Ed Women editing session will take place on Tuesday, November 11 from 6pm to 10pm at the Los Angeles Contemporary Archive downtown. This series of informal get-togethers is designed to encourage Los Angeles women-in-the-arts (though all are welcome!) to contribute their expertise to Wikipedia, specifically expanding content about women artists. Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:20, 4 November 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. event on November 11 CANCELED

Wik-Ed Women editing session CANCELED

Due to health issues affecting one of the organizers, the third Wik-Ed Women editing session (originally scheduled for Tuesday, November 11) has been canceled. We expect the series to pick up again sometime in December. Sorry for the inconvenience, and hope to see you in the near future! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:08, 7 November 2014 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. edit-a-thon this Sunday, December 14

L.A. meetup: December 14 edit-a-thon at the California African American Museum

Dear fellow Wikipedian, East of Borneo's "Unforgetting L.A." edit-a-thon series continues this weekend at the California African American Museum! Please join us this Sunday, December 14 from 11am to 4pm. Beginners welcome! You'll learn to create new articles that improve Wikipedia's coverage of African American art in Los Angeles, past and present. Please click here for full event details and to RSVP if you plan to attend. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:25, 10 December 2014 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

L.A. event on Tuesday, January 20

Wik-Ed Women editing session (1/20, 6-10pm)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, Please join us at an event this coming Tuesday: the third Wik-Ed Women editing session will take place on January 20 from 6pm to 10pm at the Los Angeles Contemporary Archive downtown. This series of informal get-togethers is designed to encourage Los Angeles women-in-the-arts (though all are welcome!) to contribute their expertise to Wikipedia, specifically expanding content about women artists. Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:06, 15 January 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

LA edit-a-thons on February 14, 17, and 21

Redondo Loves Wikipedia (2/14), Wik-Ed Women (2/17), and Unforgetting LA at the Getty (2/21)!

Dear fellow Wikipedian, The LA Wikipedia community has three events in mid-February -- please consider attending! First, we have a Valentine's Day edit-a-thon appropriately named Redondo Loves Wikipedia, which will take place at the Redondo Beach Public Library from 10am to 1pm on Saturday, February 14. Join library staff, the Redondo Beach Historical Society, and others to help improve Wikipedia's coverage of Redondo Beach! Second, we have a Wik-Ed Women editing session on Tuesday, February 17 from 6pm to 10pm at the Los Angeles Contemporary Archive downtown. This series of informal get-togethers is designed to encourage Los Angeles women-in-the-arts (though all are welcome!) to contribute their expertise to Wikipedia, specifically expanding content about women artists. Third, we have an Unforgetting LA event put on by East of Borneo in collaboration with the Getty Research Institute. Come help improve Wikipedia's coverage of LA design and architecture, and have an awesome free day at the museum -- parking will be validated for edit-a-thon participants! If you'd like to use particular books from GRI's great collection, be sure to email before 2/13 (instructions at event page). And be sure to check out our main meetup page, because we already have three SoCal events scheduled for early March! I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:58, 5 February 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

LA edit-a-thons on March 18 (tomorrow!) and 28

Wadewitz memorial edit-a-thon (3/18), Redondo Loves Wikipedia (3/28)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, The LA Wikipedia community has two events in this second half of March -- please consider attending! First, there is a memorial edit-a-thon in honor of the prolific LA Wikipedian Adrianne Wadewitz, which is being held downtown on March 18 (tomorrow!) from noon to 8pm as a part of the American Society for Eighteenth-Century Studies' annual conference. Please drop by to contribute your own work or teach other users how to write for Wikipedia. Second, there will be an event at the Redondo Beach Public Library (following up on last month's session), in collaboration with the Redondo Beach Historical Society. Please join us from 10am to noon on Saturday, March 28 at the main branch of the Redondo Beach Public Library! I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:40, 17 March 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

5th Annual Wiknic

5th Annual Wiknic (Saturday, July 11, 2015, ~9:30am-4pm)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, You are cordinally invited to the fifth annual Los Angeles Wiknic! The Wiknic is a part of the nationwide Great American Wiknic. We'll be grilling, getting to know each other better, and building the L.A. Wikipedia community! The event is tentatively planned for Pan-Pacific Park (map) and will be held on Saturday, July 11, 2014 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible! I hope to see you there! Howcheng (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:40, 21 June 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Wikinic rescheduled

5th Annual Wiknic rescheduled to Saturday, July 25, 2015, ~9:30am-4pm

Due to a conflict with the Redondo Loves Wikipedia edit-a-thon, the fifth annual Los Angeles Wiknic has been rescheduled. As before, the location will be at Pan-Pacific Park (map) and will be held on Saturday, July 25, 2015 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible! I hope to see you there! —howcheng {chat} - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

This Thursday: Women in Architecture edit-a-thon @ Getty Center

You are invited to join the Women in Architecture edit-a-thon @ Getty Center in LA on October 15! (drop-in any time, 10am-4pm)--Pharos (talk) 18:25, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!

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Wik-Ed Women Session #5

Wik-Ed Women Session #5

Dear fellow Wikipedian, I would like to personally invite you to the March edition of the Wik-Ed Women meetup, which will take place on March 15, from 6-10 in the evening. It will occur at Los Angeles Contemporary Archive, 2245 E Washington Blvd, Los Angeles, California 90021 (downtown LA -- map). The building has a pink top with old signage for American Accessories, Inc. dba Princess Accessories (Photos [PDF]). There is on-site parking in the back, which also has an entrance. If you cannot attend in person, you are more than willing to work remotely, as we appreciate all help that you can provide. Finally, here is a link to the Facebook event, in case you want to invite friends, as we are always looking for new editors to help expand coverage of women on Wikipedia! I hope to see you there! Cosmicphantom (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:54, 15 March 2016 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

February 18 Wikipedia Day event in DTLA

LA Wikipedia Day Celebration (February 18)

Dear fellow Wikipedian, Please join us at our Wikipedia Day celebration at the Ace Hotel in downtown Los Angeles on Saturday, February 18, 2017 from 11 am to 5 pm! This event will feature lectures, panel discussions, lightning talks, open space discussions and collaboration, and--most importantly--cake! Please RSVP on the event page if you're thinking of joining us. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:35, 2 February 2017 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Come and join us at the Wiknic

LA Meetup: 6th Wiknic, 7/15 @ Pan Pacific Park

Dear fellow Wikipedian, You are cordially invited to the 6th Los Angeles Wiknic, a part of the nationwide Great American Wiknic. We'll be grilling, getting to know each other better, and building the L.A. Wikipedia community! The event is planned for Pan-Pacific Park and will be held on Saturday, July 15, 2017 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible! I hope to see you there! Howcheng (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:02, 26 May 2017 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

LA event this Thursday

LA Meetup: September 7 edit-a-thon near DTLA

Dear fellow Wikipedian, You have been invited to a meetup and edit-a-thon at the LA84 Foundation in Jefferson Park (near DTLA) on Thursday, September 7, 2017 from 5:45 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.! This event aims to improve coverage of female Olympians and Paralympians (some of whom will be attending!). There will be a deejay and food/drinks, and kids are welcome. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:10, 2 September 2017 (UTC) Join our Facebook group, follow our Twitter account, and like our Facebook page!! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Wikipedia Day LA, March 31

Wikipedia Day LA 2018

Please join us from 10:00 am - 5:00 pm on Saturday, March 31st for Wikipedia Day LA 2018 at the Ace Hotel in downtown Los Angeles. There will be speakers, panel discussions, a presentation on Wikidata, flash sessions, and a discussion about the formation of an LA User Group. There could be dramatic readings of LA-related talk pages, and there will be truly excellent cake. Please RSVP on the event page if you're thinking of joining us. We hope to see you there! JSFarman (talk) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:19, 9 March 2018 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here, and follow us on Twitter . To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Arts Datathon!

LA County Civic Arts Datathon!

Please join us for the LA County Arts Commission Civic Art Wikipedia Edit-a-thon. Beginners are welcome! We'll provide training for new editors. (See the meetup page for more details.) Friday, April 27, 2018, 9:00-5:00 Bob Hope Patriotic Hall, 1816 S. Figueroa St., Los Angeles, CA 90015. We hope to see you there! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:09, 25 April 2018 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here, and follow us on Twitter . To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

7th Annual Los Angeles Wiknic

It's the 7th Annual Los Angeles Wiknic!

Sunday, September 30, 11:00-4:00 PM
Pan Pacific Park, 7600 Beverly Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90036
Hang out. Consume crowd-sourced BBQ! Bask in the glory of late September in Los Angeles (and the glory
of our new user group, Wikimedians of Los Angeles).
RSVP (and volunteer) here.
We hope to see you there! JSFarman (talk) 02:50, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
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ArbCom 2018 election voter message

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Invitation to attend a Southern California Regional mini Unconference

Who: All Wikipedians & Wikimedians

What: Southern California Regional mini Unconference.

When: Sunday 3 March 2019, 2:00PM PST / 1400 until 4:10PM PST / 1610

Where: Philippe's at Chinatown, Los Angeles

Sponsor: San Diego Wikimedians User Group ( US-SAN )

Your host: RightCowLeftCoast (talk · contribs)

Please add your username to our attendees list so we know how many will be attending, due to the limited size of the cafe.

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Wikipedia Day LA, February 24, 2019

Wikipedia Day LA 2019 Consider the Source

Please join the LA User Group, Wikimedians of Los Angeles, for an afternoon of panels, presentations and conversations on the subject of sources, and cake (locally sourced), in celebration of Wikipedia's 18th birthday. Sunday, February 24, 1:00 PM-5:00 PM The Ace Hotel (DTLA) 929 S Broadway, Los Angeles, CA 90015 For more details or to sign up, see Wikipedia Day LA, or RSVP via Eventbrite. Everyone is welcome! We hope to see you there. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:00, 18 February 2019 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here, and follow us on Twitter . To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

Art + Feminism 2019

Art+Feminism 2019 Los Angeles Events!

Dear fellow Wikipedian, You are invited to join Art+Feminism's annual worldwide Wikipedia edit-a-thon and help close Wikipedia's gender gap at one of these Los Angeles–area museums this March! RSVP/Details here. Sunday, March 3: The Institute of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles (DTLA), Noon–5p. Focus: Women+Comedy. Saturday, March 9: Vincent Price Art Museum at East Los Angeles College (Monterey Park), Noon–4p. Focus: Latinx+Non-Binary Artists. Sunday, March 10: Hammer Museum (Westwood), Noon–5p. Focus: Women+Film+Media Sunday, March 17: LACMA (Miracle Mile), Noon–5p. Focus: Women+Design+Craft Sunday, March 31: California African American Museum (Exposition Park/USC), 1–4p. Focus: Women of CAAM. These Los Angeles events are co-hosted by online magazine East of Borneo and include step-by-step Wikipedia instruction for beginners. Bring your laptop or tablet computer and any reference materials you'd like to work from or share. People of all gender expressions and identities are encouraged to attend. I hope to see you there! StaceyEOB (talk)

- MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:05, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

UC Irvine edit-a-thon on May 17, 2019

UC Irvine edit-a-thon on May 17, 2019

Dear fellow Wikipedian, You are cordially invited to an edit-a-thon this Friday in Orange County, focused on gender equity. The event is a collaboration between UCI and Women in Red. Friday, May 17, 2019 10:00 am – 4:00 pm PDT (UTC-7) Langson Library, Room 228, at University of California, Irvine Points of contact: Logistics: moderator, Prof. Adriana Briscoe Schedule: facilitators, Roger Bamkin & Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight For more details, including the registration link, please see the meetup page. Everyone is welcome! We hope to see you there.

--Rosiestep (talk) 00:36, 14 May 2019 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Southern California Wiknic & Bonfire invitation

270° panorama overlooking La Jolla Shores Beach as seen from the Martin Johnson House, Scripps Institute of Oceanography, during a late August sunset. Photo by Gregg M. Erickson

Meetup-San Diego-September 2K19

Who: All members of the public

What: Southern California Wiknic & Bonfire.

When: Sunday 1 September 2019, 2:00PM PDT / 1400 until 10:00PM PDT / 2200

Where: La Jolla Shores

Sponsor: San Diego Wikimedians User Group ( US-SAN )

Your host: RightCowLeftCoast (talk · contribs)

Please add your username to our attendees list so we know how many will be attending, and please add your intended potluck contribution to the list.

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Happy New Year from Wikimedians of Los Angeles!

Happy New Year from Wikimedians of Los Angeles! We're beginning to plan in-person and virtual events for 2022, and your support is needed as we re-launch the LA User Group. Please get involved! If you have ideas, or if you're interested in helping to lead the group, leave a note at Ideas for 2022 on our talk page. Join our Facebook group here. To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

--JSFarman (talk) 02:08, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

LA to FA 2022

LA to FA 2022

Dear GUllman, You're invited to a zoom call, taking place on February 11, with the goal of improving the article on Los Angeles to Featured article status! I often find it daunting to approach the Big Subjects on my own—so if you, like me, want a time to sit down with fellow dedicated editors and tackle something important and complex, this is the zoom for you! I, unfortunately, have no way to transmit snacks over zoom; but I trust you to exercise good judgement and discretion in selecting snacks of your own. Hope to see you there—if you're interested, add your name here! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 00:19, 10 January 2022 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.

LA Meetup: February 17, 2024

Edit-a-thon and Wikipedia Day Celebration

Please join Wikimedians of Los Angeles on Saturday, February 17 from 12:00 to 4:00 pm for a Los Angeles and West Hollywood-themed edit-a-thon at the West Hollywood Library. (For the details and to sign up, see Wikipedia:Meetup/Los Angeles/February 2024.) We'll also be celebrating Wikipedia's 23rd birthday/Wikipedia Day. (There will be cake!) We hope to see you there! JSFarman via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here. To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list.