Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/San Glucose
San Glucose was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was to delete the article.
That place where Homer and Mr. Burns attain sugar to smuggle into Springfield, on a single episode of The Simpsons. Non-notable in any respect. Delete. Ian Pugh 06:37, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete fancruft. Gazpacho 07:02, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete Stupid. Who would create it in the first place? MrHate
- Delete. Fancruft. jni 08:03, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. I'm sure if people really want their names on the author list of an article they can find something that deserves to be in an encyclopedia. Average Earthman 10:25, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete: And since the "name in lights" phenomenon motivates the stub writers, I advocate deleting them, even if they're on potentially useful topics. However, in this case specifically, I agree with the above: single joke. Geogre 14:55, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I'm scratching my head over what Geogre says above because I think stubs are good things and we ought to have them, assuming the topic is worth having. Certainly we ought not to remove information just to punish people (which is what the people pushing speedy deletion of B-Movie Bandit articles have been doing for a while now). Anyway, I suppose we could have a worthwhile article about the episode this is from, but not about the place itself. Maybe move and cleanup? Everyking 20:46, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Comment: I draw a distinction between a stub and a substub. One sets out information on a topic but isn't the last word. The other just reserves the article place holder without telling anyone anything -- usually just a predicate nominative ("Gone with the Wind was a movie starring Vivian Leigh and Clark Gable"). Stubs encourage growth. Substubs discourage users of our encyclopedia. The defenders of stubs concentrate on the psychology of the author. I concentrate on the psychology of the researcher. I take our duty to readers to be far more important than our duty to authors. We are not a sandbox, IMO, but rather an end-driven process. All the rules exist, essentially, to make that point. So, if information does not serve in an encyclopedia, it ought not be in there (e.g. an article on The thing that Monica ate and made her throw up), and if something simply doesn't inform, it doesn't need to be there. I think the people who write substubs are -bots and children, generally, and they're just trying to have something to show off. Well, I don't see why we care. We should be caring about our users, not our contributors. Geogre 21:10, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Well, you said stub, not substub, and San Glucose isn't a substub. I think even substubs have merit, provided they include some worthwhile info—knowing that Gone with the Wind stars Vivian Leigh and Clark Gable is better than knowing nothing about it. But I guess that debate could go on forever. Everyking 21:22, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Comment: I draw a distinction between a stub and a substub. One sets out information on a topic but isn't the last word. The other just reserves the article place holder without telling anyone anything -- usually just a predicate nominative ("Gone with the Wind was a movie starring Vivian Leigh and Clark Gable"). Stubs encourage growth. Substubs discourage users of our encyclopedia. The defenders of stubs concentrate on the psychology of the author. I concentrate on the psychology of the researcher. I take our duty to readers to be far more important than our duty to authors. We are not a sandbox, IMO, but rather an end-driven process. All the rules exist, essentially, to make that point. So, if information does not serve in an encyclopedia, it ought not be in there (e.g. an article on The thing that Monica ate and made her throw up), and if something simply doesn't inform, it doesn't need to be there. I think the people who write substubs are -bots and children, generally, and they're just trying to have something to show off. Well, I don't see why we care. We should be caring about our users, not our contributors. Geogre 21:10, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Taco Deposit | Talk-o Deposit 01:53, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)
- Geogre's comment is absolutely brilliant. We're not contributing for ourselves but instead for others. Anyone researching "San Glucose" already knows it's a Simpsons gag. BTW, if we're going to do an imitation B-Movie Bandit stub, that's easy: The 1939 movie Gone with the Wind stars Clark Gable and Vivien Leigh. :^)) All kidding aside, this falls under the definition of "fancruft." Delete. - Lucky 6.9 02:54, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Fancruft. --Improv 16:54, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete microtrivial fancruft. Psychonaut 23:06, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Keep. Verifiable and factually accurate. --[[User:OldakQuill|Oldak Quill]] 13:15, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Subtrivial. -R. fiend 16:53, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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