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Olinde Rodrigues was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep

  • Keep. I am very surprised to see that Rodrigues is a candidate for deletion. Rodrigues' formula is a well known result relating to rotations in three dimensional space, with applications, for example, in object recognition in computer vision.

Not notable. Some unknown mathematician(?)[[User:Nricardo|--Nelson Ricardo >>Talk<<]] 17:34, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)

  • Keep. Note to readers: this one is Nelson Ricardo's payback to me for listing all the Apprentice 2 contestants on vfd. Wile E. Heresiarch 17:54, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • Consider also this statement by Nelson Ricardo concerning his intentions: [1] Wile E. Heresiarch 18:07, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • And how is this person notable? All I see in the article is that he wrote a paper (I wrote many in college).[[User:Nricardo|--Nelson Ricardo >>Talk<<]] 18:08, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)
      • When your college papers achieve this kind of fame, we'll make an article on you :) --Improv 19:39, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. 1600 hits on "Rodriguez formula." Shows up on various history of mathematics sites, Mathworld, etc. etc. He seems to be well-known and taken very seriously in the mathematical community, and if anything, hits such as the following suggest that he is becoming better-known. Generally a pretty interesting guy. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 19:01, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
From Olinde Rodrigues, a Mathematician in the shadow.
In this talk on the history of mathematics we shall examine both the mathematical and non-mathematical contributions of the 19th century amateur mathematician Benjamin Olinde Rodrigues. The non-mathematical parts of the talk will touch on diverse topics such as socialism, women's rights, the constitution of the 2nd Republic of France, famous musicians, and the Spanish-American war. The mathematical portion will outline Rodrigues' contributions to analysis, combinatorics, and in particular to the understanding of the rotations in R^3 (the group SO(3)) and the spinors (Spin(3)). In this latter work of Rodrigues can be found the origins of non-commutative geometry as well as the theory of Lie groups, Lie algebras, and quaternions (three years before Hamilton's discovery). Finally, the talk will discuss the egregious neglect of Rodrigues' work within the mathematical community, which only recently is finally being rectified.
Copyvio! Copyvio![[User:Nricardo|--Nelson Ricardo >>Talk<<]] 06:05, Sep 25, 2004 (UTC)
Fair use! Fair use! -- Mike Rosoft 18:45, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, notable. I'm not a mathematician and I've heard of him. -Vina 19:02, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Appears to be a vengance submission, and, more importantly, the topic is notable. --Improv 19:39, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. A slightly underplayed article (especially the last line), but clearly notable. Average Earthman 09:29, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Can a sysop remove this article from VfD for being at least a frivolous listing? --G Rutter 12:54, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • There is no reason to do this. Motivation of the nominator is not a factor.[[User:Nricardo|--Nelson Ricardo >>Talk<<]] 19:41, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)
      • By the above I mean whether to keep it on VfD or not. You can certainly use my motivation to influenece your vote. But it should remain on VfD.[[User:Nricardo|--Nelson Ricardo >>Talk<<]] 23:32, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)
        • It would be inappropriate to judge the VfD by Nricardo's motivation. When we vote, we should seriously just be voting on the article and its topic, not about the nominator. If the VfD is taken down by another process for nominator-related reasons, that's appropriate though. --Improv 01:07, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Taco Deposit | Talk-o Deposit 18:39, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, for crying out loud. And Nelson, your motivation surely should be a factor, if it isn't. If people were allowed to troll at VFD by nominating legitimate articles for deletion in order to piss other people off, this page would be useless. Nelson, take your personal grievances with Wile elsewhere: I encourage you to vent off-Wikipedia, and then come back here and contribute meaningfully. As it stands, you take away from everyone's editing time by putting us through the infuriating farce of a vote to keep an obviously legitimate article. I don't get upset easily, and I'm quite upset with you right now. Jwrosenzweig 23:24, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • Frankly, I don't care how upset you are with me. Wile has wasted enough of my time by starting his crusade against The Apprentice. It took me time to create those pages, stubs though they may be. And quite frankly, perhaps we should have a single page of obscure matematicians rather than littering Wikipedia with articles on every nerd who had some small idea that 99.9% of the population doesn't give a flying fig Newton about.[[User:Nricardo|--Nelson Ricardo >>Talk<<]] 23:29, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)
      • Nelson, Nelson... as a friend of mine likes to say, when you find yourself in a hole, it's time to stop digging. A few short comments: (1) "Crusade" is surely an overstatement. (2) Don't take it personally. (3) I respect your work on Portuguese topics. Fwiw, Wile E. Heresiarch 04:48, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • K Delete, until they've done something notable. Oh, sorry. Wrong poll. Chris 00:09, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Notable mathematician. This is a frivolous listing. — Gwalla | Talk 01:10, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. What Gwalla said. - RedWordSmith 02:33, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Frivolous nominations such as these are reprehensible and are certainly no way to resolve a user dispute. Lacrimosus 11:13, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)
    • You are absolutely correct. I'll have to use (more) personal attacks next time instead of listing this silly, unknown math geek.[[User:Nricardo|--Nelson Ricardo >>Talk<<]] 01:23, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
      • This "silly, unknown math geek" will still be known in 10 years, quite likely for decades or hundreds of years, long after people who achieve a minor spotlight in popular culture are lost in the endless torrent of new television seasons. This is why they are notable than the people you've been up in arms about. You've adopted a rather hostile attitude all throughout this discussion, with your 'shit list' on your user page, accusations of a conspiracy, indications of intent to go against the decision process here, insulting edit comments, clearing out discussions, and revenge nominations. Wouldn't it be better to try to keep this civil? Nobody has it in for you, as far as I can tell, but you're being disruptive and making a lot of people angry. --Improv 06:05, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
        • You should know by now not to expect a civil response from me. Should I change your categorization on my user page?[[User:Nricardo|--Nelson Ricardo >>Talk<<]] 10:46, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. —Stormie 13:03, Sep 25, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Get real! --Big_Iron 01:49, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep and ban Nelson Ricardo if possible (okay, I'm being optimistic here)... I think we need a speedy keep for listings clearly made out of spite. StuartH 09:18, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Jesus F. Christ on a stick, keep! -- Mike Rosoft 18:45, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Wikipedia is not the place for frivolous crap like this vengeance submission. --Saforrest 21:46, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)
    • It is also not the place for people who know nothing about popular culture to go around judging it.[[User:Nricardo|--Nelson Ricardo >>Talk<<]] 22:36, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

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