Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Geology of the Bryce Canyon area

Geology of the Bryce Canyon area

Self nom. I've been working on this article and on expanding Bryce Canyon National Park for the last week. I can't think of any major thing that the article still needs, so I'm posting it here to see if others can give me some ideas on what still needs to be done. I've already exhausted two fairly complete treatments of the subject and can't find much more on the Internet. --mav 09:51, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

Having read the two articles I certainly feel like I've read a complete, interesting account but I don't the topic area well so can't definitively say that the topic is done. If I had to nitpick I would say it has a larger proportion of red links than most featured articles which is something we try to avoid. So it's a "yes, feature, but interested in more comments" from me. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 13:02, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

Yes - stubs are needed for those red links. I will work on that after my final next week. --mav 19:12, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

Somebody beat me to making a stub for Colorado Plateau so I expanded it into a good-sized article. I'll work on Grand Staircase, Cretacous Seaway, uncomformity, and Clarence Dutton over the next several days. --mav

Support - I have been in Bryce Canyon in 1997. I stood there at Inspiration Point in awe of the hoodoos, those marvels of Nature. Now you have explained them to me. A job, well done JoJan 20:15, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

Thank you! :) --mav

(not a vote) This is a nice article, but I have some things that I'd like to see addressed before I support this. First, I find the article hard to fully understand for a non-native-English speaking non-geologist (like myself). I suppose it is very difficult if not impossible to improve this; at least most terms are already properly linked. Second, not all images have captions - it would make them clearer. Third, I'd like some photo's added, preferebly a close up of some hoodoos (I'd upload my own pictures if I had a scanner), or else one of the pictures from the Bryce Canyon National Park article. Finally, what I miss in the text is a reason why these extraordinary formations only happened here (well, also in Cedar Breaks NM) and not elsewhere? If you could explain that, that would be great. Jeronimo 21:26, 10 May 2004 (UTC)

Actually, Jeronimo, they're not all that uncommon. Drumheller, Alberta has a small but attractive collection, and there is an extensive field of them, several kilometres long, along the Milk River in southern Alberta's Writing on Stone Provincial Park. They're commonly found in badland areas where sandstone underlays harder rock. Denni 05:29, 2004 May 18 (UTC)

Good points, I'll try to work on some of those in the next few days. However, you should understand that this is a daughter article of Bryce Canyon National Park (which has a long geology section) and therefore is a bit more technical than a top level article would be. Sadly there is no way to have captions without having div hacks unless the thumb tag is used. But those images are at their full size already. --mav

Captions added. Working on a panorama image of Bryce Amphitheater. --mav

I've been irritated by that caption limitation on other articles. Is it possible to work around it by making a false "thumbnail" which is in fact the same size? Agreed that is reasonable for this daughter to be more technical. I think it is ok to even say "this is a more technical article; see XXX for a broader overview". We do this at Ramsey's theorem, for example. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 07:56, 11 May 2004 (UTC)

I wouldn't want to create the expectation that clicking the image will yeild a larger version of that image, so I just hacked some captions using divs. The lead section already takes care of the non-technical readers (who will have probably already read the longer summary at Bryce Canyon National Park first). So I don't see a need to have ugly warnings at the top of the page. --mav

I appreciate the desire to avoid ugliness and I am very nearly ready to support this article, but there is something about the lead section that is not quite right for me. Specifically, the second sentence does not parse easily. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 08:53, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

Yikes! The div-hacks make the entire article a mess in my browser (Mozilla FireFox/Red Hat). Thanks for trying, but I'd rather have the article without the image captions then. Jeronimo 09:43, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

Removed. We really need a wiki way to add captions without creating thumbnails. ---mav

Erik fixed my ugly hack. Captions are back. --mav

I added two images to the article: One is a panorama of part of the "canyon" and the other is a close-up of some Hoodoos. Sadly most of my Bryce Canyon photos (and all my Zion National Park photos!) were lost due to a corrupt memory card. I still plan to fill out some more stubs and research why this place is so unique. --mav

Support. Ancheta Wis 09:23, 19 May 2004 (UTC)