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I can't find proof that this guideline was adopted as an Official True™ Guideline through the WP:PROPOSAL process. Does that mean it's not legitimate?: The WP:PROPOSAL process itself was adopted in late 2008. It was based on the processes used for Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Medicine-related articles. Pages tagged as guidelines or policies before 2008 generally did not follow any consistent process. The older the page is, the more likely it was marked as a guideline or policy as a result of off-wiki discussions (especially in 2003 or earlier) or through a normal discussion on its talk page.

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On 25 March 2024, it was proposed that this page be moved to Wikipedia:Guidelines and policies. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Lifestyle of people

Detail aware how they are and name birthday and job private. 24.223.82.124 (talk) 17:08, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I can't parse that as an English sentence. What are you trying to say? Phil Bridger (talk) 18:45, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Interpretation of "widespread consensus"

I need some help with closing a discussion that IMHO hinges on the interpretation of the words "widespread consensus" in WP:PGCHANGE. Please reply at this Discussions for discussion thread. Thank you. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 16:57, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 25 March 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved per snowball clause . (closed by non-admin page mover) – Hilst [talk] 16:04, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines → Wikipedia:Guidelines and policies – The reason for this controversial move request is so that the topics are listed in alphabetical order, per WP:AND, and because I think the words 'guidelines' and 'policies' sound clearer and make more sense in that order. PK2 (talk) 09:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Solution in search of a problem. Policies are first because they are more important than guidelines. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 13:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per the above !vote. –Gluonz^{talk contribs} 13:55, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per above. I'm no fan of the status quo but in this case we're not talking about a substantive change. And the proposal will affect years of practice by thousands of editors and links to subsections. -

Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 16:45, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose as mentioned policies generally are more important and come first thus being a more logical order. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:51, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Alphabetical is a default ordering if there isn't a conventional or more logical ordering. More important first is the usual convention when things differ in importance. Anyway you should brought this up twenty years ago when the page was created ;-) NadVolum (talk) 19:25, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Even more important is that editors who have been around for some time know this by the current name or abbreviation. No good reason has been provided to deviate from the status quo and I can see none. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:56, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per referenced policy. Writehydra (talk) 22:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - as said above, policies carry more weight than guidelines, hence they come first. estar8806 (talk) ★ 20:38, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Per others, as policies are more important. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 03:33, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, per above logic and descriptors. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:05, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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